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- rydawg, on 10/12/2007, -45/+182Hezbollah = pwned
Seriously, they've got no chance against a trained professional army. All they can do is hide behind the bodies of their own country men. They purposefully hide their weapons staches and HQs in public places. These are first class citizens alright :S - Ascendant, on 10/12/2007, -22/+149All your tubes are belong to Israel!
- gcnaddict, on 10/12/2007, -18/+120"Israel = 733t"
Uhh, Israel is a teet? Since when? (You spelled it wrong too. It's spelled "teat")
;-) - valkyries, on 10/12/2007, -15/+112uhm last time i checked to "hack" broadcast TV or FM radio, all you need is a stronger signal?
- sithmat, on 10/12/2007, -16/+63"Seriously, they've got no chance against a trained professional army"
I would have to disagree here. Unfortunately, the Hezbollah militants are generally hardened professionals who have been training in guerilla warfare for years. Many of those same fighters were actively engaged agianst Israel back before the Israeli withdrawal from Lebanon. And the Hezbollah militants have the advantage of having more popular support in Lebanon than the IDF, which means, as we all know, that Hezbollah can easily fight and hide among civilian populations.
A trained professional army is no guarrantee of a victory. Just look at a Columbia and the wars that the drug cartels seem to be constantly winning. Guerilla fighters generally know their terrain A LOT better than any army, thanks to the fact that they live there. The best hope for the IDF is to avoid head-to-head combat as much as possible. One major disadvantage for Hezbollah is that, as advanced as their rockets may be, they have nowhere near the technological superiority of the IDF. That means top-of-the-line tanks, jets, ships, artillery and other weapons would likely induce the fewest casualites on the IDF. Fighting with these technologies however usually takes MUCH longer than ordinary head-to-head fighting, and seeing as how Israel is under relentless international pressure to pull out, it is easy to see why they dropped their technological superiority for messy combat for now. - Ascendant, on 10/12/2007, -23/+69I know you wish that Israel would just sit back and let Islamic militants push them into the sea and kill every last man, woman and child, but unfortunately for you, they do take military action to defend themselves.
- DangerStevens, on 10/12/2007, -11/+501337
not L337 or 733t - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+46Isreal is obviously Teet
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+35@Darth
Good rebuttal. Sorry for calling you a moron.
Dugg. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -18/+50"Unfortunately, the Hezbollah militants are generally hardened professionals who have been training in guerilla warfare for years."
I dont care how hardened Hezbollah militants are, if their missles can only travel 40 miles (with wild inaccuracy), they dont stand a chance against F-16s w/ smartbombs.
One of the Hezbollah missles hit Gaza today. Shows how inferior their technology is. - DarthPilatus, on 10/12/2007, -18/+49TOTALineptitude, you obviously have a naive view on how terrorism works.
The missiles don't HAVE to hit anything; they just have to keep being fired. By making the Isreali population scared to go out side for fear of POSSIBLY getting hit (our 'terrorising' them), they cause far more psychological damage than an properly trained army ever could.
Yeah, they only go 40 miles but one went 60 miles this morning. 2 weeks ago, Isreal thought they could only go 20 miles.
Nowadays, modern warfare is more about PR and less about actual phsyical 'victory'. To the West, Hezbollah is hopelessly outnumbered and is fighting a losing battle with no sign of victory. To their supports, the fact they are taking on the might of Israel is the main point, not the actual outcome.
To Hezbollah, if Israel wipes them out with a large invasion, it comfirms two things:
1. Reinforces Hezbollah's message that Israel is the US backed aggressor = more supporters.
2. Shines Hezbollah's leaders as heros for at least standing up to Israel. - Ascendant, on 10/12/2007, -18/+49Seriously, why did those damn Israelis start this war in the first place, by going unprovoked into enemy territory and kidnapping their soldiers and launching rockets indiscriminately into civilian areas?
Oh wait, that's right, they didn't. - tmlee, on 10/12/2007, -3/+32I disagree that the creation and protection of a Palestinian state would resolve the conflicts. I believe that most of the terrorist groups acting now, including Hezbollah, want the total elimination of Israel. Iran, for example, holds the foreign policy of total removal of Israel and nothing less than that. There is no terrorist group to my knowledge that wishes to peacefully coexist with Israel.
- geekee, on 10/12/2007, -9/+37"Spacklebum those Israeli soldiers were running operations in Lebanese territory and Hezbollah captured them fair and square."
Every credible news source says Hezbollah militants crossed into Israel and killed and captured soldiers. - spacklebum, on 10/12/2007, -24/+51Who's the terrorist group now? Oh yeah, it's Hezbollah, not Israel, who kidnapped Israeli soldiers and send rockets into Israel and hide behind their own innocent citizens. Get with the program.
Israel has a right to defend themselves against terrorists, no matter what country they are in. And if Lebanon itself does not take steps to rid themselves of Hezbollah, they are effectively supporting terrorism and deserve to be attacked. - punkrockxtian, on 10/12/2007, -21/+48L337, not 733t
- msayag, on 10/12/2007, -7/+31The Israeli soldiers were kidnapped from an Israeli territory, not Lebanese, and was accompanied with a shower of rockets on the cities along the border.
Israel is fed up with these endless attacks, came to the conclusion that no one will do the work for it (nor the UN nor the Lebanese sovereign) and decided to hit back. - wdfmor, on 10/12/2007, -7/+29this page gonna be filled with stupid leet-comments very, very soon
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -22/+44@Darth
Dude, you're a moron.
"The missiles don't HAVE to hit anything; they just have to keep being fired. By making the Isreali population scared to go out side for fear of POSSIBLY getting hit (our 'terrorizing' them), they cause far more psychological damage than an properly trained army ever could."
Wrong. Almost all homes in Israels have missile bunkers. When they hear the sirens, they go underground and watch DVDs. I know this because I have family there and I talk to them weekly. It's not psychological damage. Its not "terrorizing." Its more of an inconvenience that they are accustomed to. They dealt with it when Saddam was launching his SCUDs and they'll deal with it again. Israelis are the most resilient people in the world. If you think they're scared to go outside and live their lives, you dont know anything about Israelis.
"Yeah, they only go 40 miles but one went 60 miles this morning. 2 weeks ago, Israel thought they could only go 20 miles."
Wrong. One went 40 miles this morning (the one that landed in Gaza), which was a new record. Nice try tho.
"Nowadays, modern warfare is more about PR."
Tell that to the Hezbollah guerrillas who are hiding from Israeli F-16s in their bunkers.
"To Hezbollah, if Israel wipes them out with a large invasion, it confirms two things:
1. Reinforces Hezbollah's message that Israel is the US backed aggressor = more supporters.
2. Shines Hezbollah's leaders as heros for at least standing up to Israel."
1. Well duh. You don't exactly need to do extensive research to find out that the US gives Israel billions of dollars worth of aid and weapons.
2. There will always be radicals who will claim "victory" regardless of the outcome of war. (See Bin Laden and the Afghani "war.") - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+24Oh we got the joke.
It simply was not funny. - dext3r, on 10/12/2007, -10/+31Israel is "teet" ???
73375 for all! - lava, on 10/12/2007, -9/+27You know what? It sucks that palestinians were driven out of that land, and I empathize with the cause. But seriously, is it realistic to try to drive out Israel? It's never going to happen. Not unless Palestine and Syria and Lebanon become rival industrial powers, and by what I've seen in their schools...
- DarthPilatus, on 10/12/2007, -14/+32Oh my...
"Wrong. Almost all homes in Israels have missile bunkers. When they hear the sirens, they go underground and watch DVDs. I know this because I have family there and I talk to them weekly. It's not psychological damage. Its not "terrorizing." Its more of an inconvenience that they are accustomed to."
Dude, that's ***** up. If they see having bomb shelters as normal and see bombings as an inconvenience, that's just not sane.
"Israelis are the most resilient people in the world."
True that.
"If you think they're scared to go outside and live their lives, you don't know anything about Israelis."
Yeah actually dude, I do know a thing or two. I have been to Israel five times. I have spent 6 hours in one of those bunkers under rocket fire. I have many friends there. I am not saying Israelis are scared to live their lives but if you actual saw all the ***** they have there like the bomb shelters, the blast shields on bus stops, the huge bloody wall between it and Palestine, it gotta ***** with your head.
Oh...
"1. Well duh. You don't exactly need to do extensive research to find out that the US gives Israel billions of dollars worth of aid and weapons."
Missed Point: The point is not the fact that the US gives them the weapons, it is that there is a message they are trying to put out to their supports/public that Israel& US are the big, bad meanies looking to take over the Middle East and destroy Islam. This is a major rallying point for these types of terrorists.
"2. There will always be radicals who will claim "victory" regardless of the outcome of war. (See Bin Laden and the Afghani "war.")"
Missed Point: It is not about 'winning', it is the fact that they stood up to Israel and the US that portrays them as heroes to their supporters. It is not always about what we think.
2. There will always be radicals who will claim "victory" regardless of the outcome of war. (See Bin Laden and the Afghani "war.") - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+25Probably drive drunk right into a head on collision with an Israelie tank...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -11/+29YOU GO ISRAEL!!!!!! beat them down.....
remember the U.S. Marines 1982 - esaks, on 10/12/2007, -12/+29I luv 73375!!
- spartan777, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17total ineptitude, i think you may be the first person to apologize on digg. congratulations. you rock.
- Bioshocker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14"Ugh, those were not the pictures I needed to see today. Thinking of me having to watch my son get blown to bits was not the happy thought I was searching for."
When I think "I want to find happy thoughts", the first thing that comes to my mind is "I wonder what's happening in the Middle East" too. But seriously, if you're looking for happiness, you're not going to find it by clicking into a thread discussing a war! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16"Probably drive drunk right into a head on collision with an Israelie tank..."
And get punished for a TK. - diggn_it, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16"The best hope for the IDF is to avoid head-to-head combat as much as possible. "
No, I think its the other way round. I agree that Hezbollah is a skilled guerrilla force, but Israel's force has been dealing with these kinds of terrorists since day one. Literally. The best hope for the IDF is to go into a head on fight because they have training, numbers and technology going for them. The last thing Hezbollah wants is a fair fight. If they did, they would not be hiding among civilians and launching long range missiles instead of engaging in actual battles. - FCon4, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14Wow, that makes the photos of the artillery in residential neighborhoods even more valuable. It's not everyday one can view pictures of real live myths.
- tiraid, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15@bloqmon
I respect your rant, but how much land to you propose Israel give away this time? They already have given land, several times. It doesn't seem to be gaining them anything; it sure hasn't bought peace. Hezbollah (which is another way of saying Syria and Iran) isn't fighting Israel to acquire a Palestinian state, they are fighting to eradicate Israel. Honestly, if Israel were to give away half of it's land, what do you think the outcome would be? Who believes that there would suddenly be peace? If giving more land really is Jon Stewart's plan, he's wrong this time. - xofc, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Well, if by 'won' you mean were getting slaughtered until all of NATO decided that the Serbs were the badguys and launched a massive air campaign. Personally, I would call that getting rescued, not winning.
- stenk, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15@ geekee,
Your right! Hezbollah have broken many rules of engagement, and I am sad that they use populated areas to conduct their madness - fufubag, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12@Readmetxt
"Israel kidnapped hundreds of Hezbollah soldiers before, it's one thing to kidnap soldiers and it's another to bomb innocent civilans"
Ummm, for one thing, killing innocent civilians is the only thing YOUR side can do. And then you hide in civilian areas and claim war crimes. You are the lowest form of humans. HYPOCRITES!
Instead of raising your people up to live in the modern world, any aid money you get goes to Terrorist/Islamic regimes in order to make rag-tag missiles to fire at the Jews, because you are jealous of a people who are trying to live their lives. Then you hand out food when the Jews attack you (which of course is in civilian areas - where you are hiding ON PURPOSE) so you look like saints to the poor people who would be rising up in the world if their money didn't go towards the OPENLY STATED TERRORIST/GENOCIDAL GOALS OF KILLING ALL JEWS! You are lower than bugs, you don't deserve to take up air on this planet. - redandgold, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13@stenk
actually, more lebanese civilians have been killed than israeli civilians - IceCube416, on 10/12/2007, -16/+25There is no such thing as a Hezbollah soldier.... They are all terrorists! The Hezbollah is a terrorist organization if you haven't figured that out yet. Moreover, I don't understand how you can even try to compare a patriotic Israeli soldier obliged to defend his country to a lunatic Hezbollah terrorist that thinks that he'll be going to heaven if he kills as many 'Zionists' (as they like to call them) as he can.
Just think about what you're saying, ReadMeTXT. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12Main screen turn on!
- Bioshocker, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14"Moreover, I don't understand how you can even try to compare a patriotic Israeli soldier obliged to defend his country to a lunatic Hezbollah terrorist that thinks that he'll be going to heaven if he kills as many 'Zionists' (as they like to call them) as he can."
The greatest advantage you can give an enemy is to call them insane. To understand them better is to beat them more effectively. To call them lunatics is to make their job easier. - bwood, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10woah, didn't take long for the comments to go into Israel vs Hezbollah debate :P.
Cool hack.. dugg - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I call ***** on Vietnam being comparable to Russo-Afgani or Hezbollah-Isreal. The North Vietnamese were a Russian and Chinese Backed Soverign Nation with an Organized Military.
- SBelyea, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9bloq, please tell me how you are trying to prevent bias by pulling "news" from sites like "www.antiwar.com".
- Ciebergasm, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12"Seriously, they've got no chance against a trained professional army."
This isn't true at all. Look at the balkan wars. The bosnian side consisted of civilians fighting with weapons they made themselves, while the serbians had profesisonal soliders with tanks and real weapons. Who won? Bosnia. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9you have no chance to survive make your time...
- Judahgabriel, on 10/12/2007, -7/+14lol, you're quoting Jimmy Carter on how best to deal with the Middle East?! Bwahaha
That's like quoting Michael Jackson on how to raise children. - mattridings, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I don't understand those of you who act like Israel should be blamed for the innocent civilians who are dying in Lebanon. Regrettable? Absolutely. Sad? Without question. But the 'blame' definitely lies with Hezbollah.
If a murderer takes a hostage, and that hostage is killed accidentally in the process of trying to apprehend the criminal do you blame the cops (who actually pulled the trigger) or the criminal (who put the innocent person in the situation)?
I heard someone make a statement the other day that summed it up pretty well, to paraphrase; "If Hezbollah disarmed, the bullets would immediately stop flying. If Israel disarmed, they would immediately be wiped off the face of the planet". - Gendolookin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7the problem is this is NOT about land. Its about cultures, the middle eastern radical islam culture is about the SOCIETY! Its just like communism, State above the individual. The culture of terror leaves no freedom at all. Women cover their bodies, can't drive, can't learn to read, can't vote, can't run for office, can't leave the house without the husband, can't see a doctor because the doctor would have to see them without their robes. They are not free at all, niether are the people, They can't have jewish friends even if they wanted to, if they did, they would be killed. A young lady was hung by a crane from her neck in iran for having sex before marriage, come on now people, its not about land, its about the islam crazies, (true islam is not about death, its about what most religions are about, PEACE) The problem is they crazy islam want Isreal's, Christians, Buddist, Hindu's, and muslims that don't agree with them DEAD! The people there NEED freedom, they need to not live with war their whole life. If i remember correctly Isreal aggreed to give 97% of the Gaza strip to palistine, AND THEY DIDN'T TAKE IT!!! Because it has NOTHING TO DO WITH LAND!!! Its about POWER!!! Isreal is powerful....And i'm sure these Hezballah leaders don't even care about their religion, the longer they keep the people under them pissed, the longer they get money. Follow the money, follow the money
- jaikar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Remember Liberty. ;)
- astatine, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8The article's very skimpy on technical details. Did the Israelis actually "hack" the TV station, or did they just set up a more powerful transmitter and blast out other stations on the same frequencies?
- Dotnetsky, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6The airfight "never before" you describe represents less than 6% of Israeli strike capabilty.
They need to get the job done but they're being as careful as they can about it. -
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