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Google & blogs issued with AACS Cease & Desist

cdfreaks.com — Following the wide spread publicity of the AACS hack, especially with working out the HD DVD processing key, the AACS LA has started sending out Cease and Desist letters to various blog sites as well as the search giant Google for publishing the key to simply linking to the Doom9 threads about the crack.

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  • RedHerringHack, on 10/12/2007, -17/+395Ha Ha. And ***** You AACS LA. Didn't you learn anything with DVDs?

    I have the keys, The decryption algorithm is public domain, the forums are free speech.

    You have lost, and will continue to lose in a poor way.
    • StillGaming, on 10/12/2007, -94/+13Kevin Rose dugg this article.

      http://digg.com/users/KevinRose/news/dugg
    • kingkilr, on 10/12/2007, -93/+4Buried as lame?
    • bemenaker, on 10/12/2007, -9/+272Uhm, asshats, you published it in a formal take down notice, those ARE public record, once in public record, always in public record. PWNED by self...... asshats
    • jimripper, on 10/12/2007, -11/+96I would like to point out that this is not a free speech issue. The First Amendment addresses GOVERNMENT regulation of your right to free expression. Private entities (such as business, e.g. DIGG) may regulate your comments any way they see fit without encroaching on your rights. That said, Digg is being pretty lame about this.
    • dopey420, on 10/12/2007, -27/+149Know I will get dugg down. I feel that Kevin R has sold out. I miss the Dark tipper. Use too, he show us some cool hacks, cracks. Mostly windows and Linux stuff. Now he seams to be an apple shell/fan boy.
      Now this crap. If they lose the old tech tv fan base which helped them launch this site, and there podcast? Wounder what be left?
      Still watch the show but starting to get bored with it. Use to care about Kevin's opinion on stuff. Now not so much.
    • overneath42, on 10/12/2007, -35/+13Abiding by the law is selling out?
    • Archon810, on 10/12/2007, -9/+4wait, so if I host my own domain on my own machine on my own connection with a generic protected registrar emails, who are they going to send C&D to?
    • EmailAddress, on 10/12/2007, -14/+29202 E9 18 02 9D F4 E3 5A D8 61 56 C8 6A B6 88 CC ........

      Can posting random hex characters get you in trouble?!
    • francisew, on 10/12/2007, -12/+33For everyone who is moderately confused by the HEX code being re-posted... It's the processing key for the DRM cracked on HD DVD discs.
    • tfinniga, on 10/12/2007, -3/+124> Can posting random hex characters get you in trouble?!

      Just encrypt it first. You know, with ROT-26 or something. Circumvention of your message would then violate the DMCA...
    • Terminaltor, on 10/12/2007, -69/+4bury every single other post, let's only digg the hd-dvd key, they can't win this fight
      sorry for hijacking this thread
    • gweedo767, on 10/12/2007, -3/+37@terminaltor: fear not! I dugg down your post just as you asked!
    • sickswaystop, on 10/12/2007, -24/+2THIS IS NOT AN ANSWER -buried
    • navaburo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+71@EmailAddress: HEY THATS MY RANDOM STRING OF HEX!
    • dustyshadow, on 10/12/2007, -9/+2"Just encrypt it first. You know, with ROT-26 or something. Circumvention of your message would then violate the DMCA..."

      While I think your post is funny, I just want to point out that the DMCA circumvention protection is only valid if you are using an encryption method to protect your own copyrighted material. It's not against the law to break encryption. It's only against the law when you do it to access copyrighted material.
    • jcembree, on 10/12/2007, -26/+5Your search - "O9 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0" - did not match any documents.

      Looks like Google complied with the C&D
    • obijohn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+37The decryption algorithm may be public knowledge, but that's not the same thing as "public domain". Anyway, it's not a copyright issue. The number itself isn't the issue. The DMCA is the issue, which criminalizes even the dissemination of the technique (the algorithm) used to circumvent copy protection (not copyright).

      Now, a number is not an algorithm. A prosecutor would be hard pressed to win a case against you for publishing a number, and only a number, which by itself can't be used for anything except getting banned from Digg. That doesn't mean the AACS LS won't issue a DMCA notice, it just means that you probably won't get prosecuted if you don't comply.

      However, publishing the algorithm WILL get you in a world of hurt. As in Full-Metal-Jacket kind of hurt.

      Digg me down, ban me, I am so disgusted today I don't care anymore
    • jrsims, on 10/12/2007, -7/+23Question though - whether the leaking of the hex code was intentional or not - didn't this event just give a huge boost to the HD-DVD format? Won't more of us buy HD-DVD technology now that it has basically been opened up?

      Something to think about.
    • ludwik, on 10/12/2007, -9/+5WOW! I posted here a comment with my poem, along with the following information:

      "Please, be gentle. I'm not an English native speaker and this is my first piece of Real Art in English ;)

      (Digg's Team: Don't ban me, please. All numbers and preceding them uppercase letters and their possible connection with some hex key are entirely accidental.)"

      The poem got some positive diggs and was removed in just a minute. Even poetry is now censored in the war against consumer freedom?

      You can read it here, anyway: http://blog.outer-court.com/forum/94717.html#id94744

      I hope it's ok to link to a poem. Is it?
    • ConceptJunkie, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@jcembree

      Take the "oh" out of your string and replace it with a "zero" and you will see otherwise.


    • darkecho, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1"wait, so if I host my own domain on my own machine on my own connection with a generic protected registrar emails, who are they going to send C&D to?"

      They are going to send it to you after finding out the IP address of your own connection and talking to your ISP. Not to mention, unless you get the "business" plan many ISP's offer, you are probably violating your ISP's terms of service, thus making them more willing to hand over your information after cutting off your internet.

      Just in case you didn't know: You can ping a domain name to get its IP address. Now of course you can use redirection, but generally its easy to find you.
    • meshman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1"Looks like Google complied with the C&D"

      Look at your key. Why do you think it didn't match a Google search?
    • invader, on 10/12/2007, -4/+22> Your search - "O9 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0" - did not match any documents.

      In hexadecimal, the letter "o" is not used. If you change the "O9" to "09" you will get plenty of results

      edit: ConceptJunkie beat me to it
    • ZeroMP, on 10/12/2007, -2/+42http://www.09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0.us/

      This guy states that the numbers came to him in a dream... he wonders what they might mean.
      Nice.
    • Technopundit, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19This Just In:
      Bible scholars in Israel have just discovered The Code embedded in the second chapter of Deuteronomy. The MIAA has mailed a C&D letter to God.
    • revenge7, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%2209+F9+11+02+9D+74+E3+5B+D8+41+56+C5+63+56+88+C0%22

      Only 1010 letters to send!
    • rebotfc, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16Can't stop the signal!
    • deabyss, on 10/12/2007, -15/+0Not only will a search for the key yield no results, as many peopel above me have indnicated, but a partial search also doesn't work. So it looks like any blogs or forums talking about the code have been black listed by google.

      O9 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

      Results only show up when you get it down to: O9 F9 11
      And even then not many.
    • dogstar0125, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The motion picture industry tried the same thing when DeCSS was released. We all know how well that worked. They should have learned by now that you can't put the genie back in the bottle, and it's pointless to try.
    • fintler, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Ironically I smashed a bunch of keys on my keyboard this morning and came up with something very similar:

      http://www.codecrazy.net/random-string-hex.html

      What an amazing, completely unrelated coincidence :)
    • zecrose, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4809 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0.

      Until they ban us all.

      ....................../´¯/)
      ....................,/¯../
      .................../..../
      ............./´¯/'...'/´¯¯`·¸
      ........../'/.../..../......./¨¯
      ........('(...´...´.... ¯~/'...')
      ..........................'...../
      ..........''............. _.·´
      ..........................(
      ..............................
    • zebstah, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9"I would like to point out that this is not a free speech issue. The First Amendment addresses GOVERNMENT regulation of your right to free expression. Private entities (such as business, e.g. DIGG) may regulate your comments any way they see fit without encroaching on your rights. That said, Digg is being pretty lame about this."

      I suggest you retake your Conlaw II class. Since I doubt you ever have taken a class, I will simply it for you: First Amendment + Congress Passing DMCA + Company utilizing DMCA to suppress free speech = A FREE SPEECH ISSUE.

      This isn't an instance of a private company or individual refusing to listen or publish something. You are right, a private actor can restrict content under their control. They cannot restrict others content without state authority. This is an instance of a company utilizing the state police power to restrict speech by regulating what others can say. Copyright is inherently a restriction on free speech that we accept in exchange for whatever value we think copyright provides. What is going on right now re: the hex numbers oversteps the permissible restrictions and thus we have a free speech issue.
    • Evacide, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6***** THE RIAA
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    • DarkDragon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7"Just encrypt it first. You know, with ROT-26 or something. Circumvention of your message would then violate the DMCA..."

      pfft, everyone knows the government is above their own laws >.>
    • OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8"Only one thing is impossible for God: to find any sense in any copyright law on the planet." - Mark Twain.
    • famikon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6http://thisis09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0.ytmnd.com/
    • tamrix, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5I think i speak for all of digg when i say:
      ***** THE RIAA
      ***** THE MPAA
      ***** THE AACS
      and now...
      ***** DIGG DOT COM
      09-F9-11-02-9D-74-E3-5B-D8-41-56-C5-63-56-88-C0
    • LilBambi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Looks like Doom9's database is screwed? Was reading over some of the related topics there since I hadn't read them in a long time and on page 9 of one of the main ones it took a very long time to load and when it did, it failed with a database error.
  • AggieTales, on 10/12/2007, -2/+70Its nice to know they can probably just ignore the C&Ds and not get in trouble for it. The First Circuit Court ruled, backed by the Communication Decency Act (Sect. 230) that a site can't be held account able for something its users/commenters post.

    here's proof: http://www.acsblog.org/economic-regulation-employment-federal-court-reaffirms-immunity-of-bloggers-from-suits-brought-against-commenters.html

    or direct from the First Circuit Court of Appeals: http://www.ca1.uscourts.gov/pdf.opinions/06-1826-01A.pdf
    • anitab83, on 10/12/2007, -16/+94Imagine this. You're a 30 year old entrepreneur who's running a company that nets very little money but is valued in the 8 to 9 figure range. Your future is entirely determined on your financial supporters and advertisers, you have no paid subscribers and no product to sell. One day, a group of lawyers representing one of the largest industries in the world threatens to sue you and shut you down (either by threatening your ISP or your backers). What would you do?

      Sure, Digg could take this to court. And Digg could probably win. But how many startups who are burning through money want to engage a multi-billion dollar industry? Digg needs to be mindful of their financiers, and their advertisers. Even if they won, engaging in a big legal battle could kill Digg. This is my guess regarding what happened ... it's logical Digg's attorneys advised Kevin and crew of the same.

      I'd really rather hear it from Kevin or someone else at Digg. I'm sure Digg just wants it to go away, and wishes that they didn't have to remove the stories.
    • br0ken1128, on 10/12/2007, -7/+16@anitab83

      My sentiments EXACTLY .. collectively the Digg community is pushing them into a difficult position, they very well may win it if it comes down to it but why do we want to put them there in the first place.

      Make your own website, start your own informational champaign.. you don't need to ride Digg's back and put them up against the lion
    • Ahnteis, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15Besides--who cares if you can see it on Digg? It's too late. It's everywhere. Let them take it down. Big deal. Why spend gobs of money (that's the exact quantitative measurement -- 2.5 gobs of money) to republish something that is already everywhere. Just laugh at them and take it down.
    • chicagobiker, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16@anitab83 " running a company that nets very little money but is valued in the 8 to 9 figure range. Your future is entirely determined on your financial supporters and advertisers, you have no paid subscribers and no product to sell."

      Thank you. I think that right there is the root of the problem and pretty much sums up the asshatery that is the whole Web 2.0 bubble.
    • bobothn, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3@anitab83
      It would be interesting to see how things proceeded. I Bet the eff would love a higher profile case like that.
    • dustyshadow, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Unfortunately, the first circuit is only one of eleven. The others could rule the opposite way and there would be nothing wrong with it. One circuit is not precedent for another, it's only persuasive. Circuits rule opposite ways all the time. That's usually when the SCOTUS gets involved.
    • Technopundit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12There's only one solution: Mass quantities of imported beer!
    • cancelorallow, on 10/12/2007, -7/+12dugg for the word 'asshatery' in chicagobiker's above post.
      Because this exactly sums up my opinion of Kevin Rose right now.
      Why do we put up with this? A story with 12,000+ diggs gone, a new record, and possibly another heap of straw on the camels back. Any time now...

      Comment will be deleted in 5, 4, 3,
    • cancelorallow, on 10/12/2007, -1/+36You know, Slashdot doesn't remove stuff without a fight, and without clearly discussing it with their members.

      http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/07/05/01/1935250.shtml

      What little respect I had for digg just got flushed down the toilet.
    • lulzlulzlulz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8A few digg threads that you won't find on the front page, because digg has blocked them:

      http://digg.com/tech_news/May_1st_The_Day_Digg_Died_2

      http://digg.com/linux_unix/How_I_got_banned_from_Digg

      http://digg.com/tech_news/Censoring_a_Number
    • Ericular, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6It's one thing to remove them due to legal reasonings, but doing so without any public explanation is the worst kind of horrible.

      What the hell are you guys thinking? As far as I know, there's nothing illegal about giving an explanation for such blatant suppression. How long has this been going on? How many other stories are being censored?

      What a joke...
    • TyroPyro, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Digg is blocking stories which criticize it, too. There are several stories with hundreds of diggs that were simply blocked from the front page and hidden. Is that about not wanting to go to court too? There's a deeper problem with the democracy Digg is selling itself as and what's been going down
    • MrMighty, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2"I'd really rather hear it from Kevin or someone else at Digg"

      http://digg.com/tech_news/DIGG_What_s_Happening_with_HD_DVD_Stories
    • dclowd9901, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This case would be dismissed immediately. It has precedence, and a dismissal doesn't cost as much as a full-blown court battle. Digg's being a big pussy, and not standing up. And if money really is such an issue, the can ask for funding from us. I'm sure the lot of us would be more than happy to contribute to such a "Fight the AACS" fund.
  • themarq, on 10/12/2007, -7/+81It would appear that Digg has taken this C+D letter very seriously as they have been studiously deleting all references to **the number** all day (some had as many as 15000 diggs).

    Interesting that I only found this thread by looking at K Rose's diggs for today, he's yet to comment but I suspect that shortly we'll see a statement from the $60 million dollar man explaining the rationale of deleting free speech content from the so-called user-driven digg site.

    We're all waiting with bated breath Kevin.
    • gregms, on 10/12/2007, -1/+30@themarq, I feel the same way and found out about the article from Kevin's Digg's. People were posting saying he dugg one of the AACS stories right before it was taken down so I don't know what is going on.

      Kevin Rose really needs to put out some kind of statement. This whole thing is beyond ridiculous.
    • drake77, on 10/12/2007, -6/+20Give the guy a break- digg is a large site and has to follow certain rules to not be sued. Yes, a lawsuit could kill digg.

      Also, he's doesn't actually get the millions of dollars until he sells digg. Until then, it's only add revenue paying his salary.
    • alecks, on 10/12/2007, -22/+11***** that, Kevin is being a punk.... he's "digging" these stories to make it look like he's with us, but he's OKing all the takedowns.

      Grows some balls and take a side, ***** hypocrit.
    • EmailAddress, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18Ramzi must be very unhappy with Kevin deleting the stories that share the key.
    • gharding, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16Free speech? It's his website, not the governments. That's not covered by the first amendment. He can delete whatever the hell he wants.
    • dracostimpy, on 10/12/2007, -5/+55Digg has no original content; it's just linking to other sites that are printing that number. Digg's no more to blame for that than Google is for linking people to ripped MP3s or movie torrents. Digg is really just a giant human-driven web crawler, not unlike Googlebot. Hopefully, Google won't cave as easily as Digg, and they'll set a nice precedent if this goes to court since this DMCA argument is a load of shiat.

      Also, being a DBA myself, let's not make it too easy for digg/google/etc to find and delete all recurrences of that string, so mix it up a little by throwing in some plain English, guys. Here's an example:

      Digits 1,7 are zero
      2,4,9 are all nine
      3 is f
      5,6,20 are one
      8 is two
      10,17 are d
      11 is seven
      12,19 are four
      13 is e
      14,26 are three
      15,21,24 are five
      16 is b
      18 is eight
      22,25 are six
      23 is c

      There, let's see how long it takes em to filter out that one! Get creative, diggers.
    • EggNerd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Wonder if Kevin will have the balls to discuss this in the next Diggnation?
    • ophilye, on 10/12/2007, -3/+24I love it when you guys get creative...
      I thought you all might like to see my shopping list...


      Oranges x2
      Elephants x9
      18 stuffs
      Ostriches x2
      9 Dippers
      Featherx x4
      Egrets x3
      5 Apples
      Doritos x8
      61 stuffs
      56 more stuffs
      Catrudays x8
      6 Artichokes
      Bees x 6
      88 more stuffs
      Carbon Copied
    • uidzero, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4@themarq

      It's not rocket science. I don't understand why or HOW for that matter anyone is mad at Kevin or Digg. They recieved a C&D order. They complied instead of taking the risk going to court. End of story. Esp. over illegally posted content which is NOT protected by the first amendment despite the innaccuracy in your post. It's pretty simple to understnad. I'd hope any respectable business owner would do the same. Whether it is Digg or any other company.
    • themarq, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@uidzero

      I didn't say I was mad or anything. All I did was ask for a statement. When a site prides itself and bills itself as being 100% user driven, it would be nice to see statement from the manager of said site when it suddenly removes a story with 15000+ diggs. That's a lot of voices being silenced.

      That being said, digg owes me (and the rest of us) exactly zero. We're not paying to be here, if I don't like it I can leave. However, if me and 15000 of my close digger friends make the same decision that might warrant at least a small mea culpa from Rose.
    • lulzlulzlulz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"I don't understand why or HOW for that matter anyone is mad at Kevin or Digg."

      People are mad because digg isn't just censoring the encryption key - they're banning anyone who makes a thread to discuss it, and deleting the threads. For instance:

      http://digg.com/linux_unix/How_I_got_banned_from_Digg

      You won't find that on any of the main pages in digg, despite the fact that it has 652 diggs at this moment in time. There are many other threads like it that have either been blocked, or deleted.

      Watch the digg spy if you want to see some of those threads: http://digg.com/spy
    • ronin691, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Here's a video of Alex Albrecht asking Kevin Rose "...what happen to the dark tipper?"

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeBFEPeSO7Y
  • Kumaku, on 10/12/2007, -14/+89You mean this one?
    09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 xx xx

    (I have no money to spend on lawyers)
  • timbro1, on 10/12/2007, -10/+31STOP THE CENSORSHIP!
  • Diggtatorship, on 10/12/2007, -4/+37Vote for your favorite number: http://www.polldaddy.com/poll.asp?p=34916
    • SuperBloomie, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1pi for life baby!

      (too bad it's getting raped by all "the numbers" fanboys)
  • zackkitzmiller, on 10/12/2007, -8/+51Kevin doesn't want to censor. He also doesn't want to lose Digg.
    • NSMike, on 10/12/2007, -15/+42More likely he doesn't want to pay for the lawyers that would help him categorically win the case, since everything is user-submitted, and supposedly user moderated. Guess that idea went out the window. Way to ruin digg, Rose. All I can say is you better fess up on diggnation this week.
    • zackkitzmiller, on 10/12/2007, -9/+6Damn you NSmike. I dugg your original comment, and now you edited and look we both look like assholes.
    • gharding, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6@nsmike:
      Yeah, because everyone would prefer to get stuck in a long-ass legal battle as opposed to just deleting a couple comments.
    • NSMike, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7@gharding -

      The internet appears to be Kevin Rose's domain. He's got digg. He's got an extremely successful podcast. He's a giant among web 2.0 giants. If I had that kind of clout in that realm, I'd be willing to hit up a legal battle or two to establish some precedent that helps me be more successful and secures the rights of the little guys who might come along later on down the line out of love for that which enabled me to be so successful. I certainly wouldn't screw over a loyal user base with indiscriminate censorship.
    • dracostimpy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@nsmike

      In all reality, the blame lies with Jay Adelson. Kevin is just a mascot at this point... all the grownup decisions are made by men in suits like Jay so Kevin can concentrate on making irreverent podcasts of himself and Alex drinking and dogging each other so as to project an image of Digg as informal and geek-chic.

      Obviously, actions like this prove that Digg is anything but the image portrayed on Diggnation, given that it kneels before Zod routinely without so much as a whisper of concern for its users. Jay and the rest of the suits are gonna have to learn fast that the internet is a fickle marketplace with very finicky consumers, or else they'll learn the hard way when Digg.com becomes the next great web implosion.

      And Kevin, if you're gonna sit by and let Digg sellout to the man, then you might as well just sell out already and take the sure cash before Digg goes kaput. I like you, and I don't want to see you go down with the sinking ship. Take the money, put it in a Swiss account, then open up a new site and host it on TPB's servers. You're the man of the hour for now, but time flies...
  • KarbonKopy, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3God I hope not....
  • trer, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17Those Cease & Desist orders are merely a waste of paper. Speed of information dissemination is one of the reasons why the internet is so powerful. Good luck, lawyers.
  • NSMike, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12Did anyone notice the other story that was frontpaged with an EXTREMELY similar number to this one, but not exactly the same, that has suddenly been axed by digg moderators?

    Indiscriminate censorship FTW.
  • JiMiThInG, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17well..I wish digg would at least leave these posts up until they get a C&D letter then.. go ahead and comply if they must. I really don't like this pre-emptive removing of it.
  • Ghil, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4C&D letters? ha.
  • lordsandwich, on 10/12/2007, -7/+139This reminds me of a poem I once wrote:

    cirro nigh heft.
    nigh won.
    won, cirro too, nigh.
    deed!
    sever fore, eh.
    tree? fie!
    bee fore won, fie seeks.
    see, fie seeks, tree.
    ate... ate...
    see, cirro?

    (C) lordsandwich
    • greenlight2001, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23Brilliant!

      They should teach that in high school English classes.
    • NSMike, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24You, sir, are a genius. It almost makes sense too.
    • chrisOrbit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+24I cant stop laughing
    • SteveMax, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Really nice. It would be perfect if you didn't miss the D8 and the last 56.
    • lordsandwich, on 10/12/2007, -2/+28That's a valid criticism, stevemax. Maybe you'll like this one better:

      seer on high!
      if nay won, won oh too? nay.
      deceive and, for eatery, fie!
      be the eigth, for once.
      physics, sea. physics, tree.
      physics, a teat.
      see, cirro?

      God, I have no life.
  • Mantarii, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21What if I make that my username? Would my username become a violation of copyright? Would Digg have to purge my userid from the database?
    • Diggtatorship, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Well, even if you convert it to base-36 you still have a 20 character string: L96O54KFN6HZ7PT164DQ

      Digg usernames can only be 15 characters... close but no cigar.
  • john2kx, on 10/12/2007, -6/+7400001001
    11111001
    00010001
    00000010
    10011101
    01110100
    11100011
    01011011
    11011000
    01000001
    01010110
    11000101
    01100011
    01010110
    10001000
    11000000

    :)
    • sik0fewl, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2413,256,278,887,989,457,651,018,865,901,401,704,640
  • wonky73, on 10/12/2007, -7/+4Somebody doesn't know the law. I site is not accountable for user submitted content. Cease and Desist letters are NOT legally binding. They have to actuallly file a lawsuit. and C&D is just a threat. Linking is not an illegal activity. I hope these losers get smacked to hell and back by googles attack lawyers.
  • Futurejunior, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11I posted these a bit ago, and it was deleted!
    So I made another, http://digg.com/linux_unix/Its_the_numbers_again_let_s_make_them_never_go_away
    lets keep em going, sooner or later digg will have to give up!
    Diggers Unite!

    edit, deleted already....Wow, they are good.
    took them 48 seconds.
    • john2kx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9i'm pretty sure it requires less effort from the admins to delete a story than it does for us to put one up.
    • Futurejunior, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23on that now, I now have -2 submissions in for my user name!
  • thomasthecat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+40My friend (digg user meamog) has this to say:

    meamog: i think the internet, as a whole, is about equivalent to a 2 year old
    meamog: tell it "no" and bad things happen
    • GhostFreeman, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7I prefer the old one about a million monkeys on a million typewriters myself.
  • SuckMyDigg, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1DOWN WITH THE MAN!
  • spacey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I hope that digg user gcnaddict does in fact approach Kevin the next time they're at the same event. His story was removed as well - it was: http://digg.com/tech_news/A_useful_copyrighted_string_use_the_linked_URL_to_get_your_desired_target

    He didn't post the damn string, just the rot13 version, which HE has copyrighted.
    • Ahnteis, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1That would be a derivative work, so he wouldn't actually have the copyright.

      Also, you don't copyright something. It's a noun, not a verb. Copyright is automatically granted to the author of a work. For certain works, you may wish to register a copyright claim.

      This is an important distinction from trademark which is NOT automatic. Because of this, it makes some sense to say that you trademarked a logo or phrase.
    • laserdog, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Wouldn't Rot8 be more appropriate?
  • AnubisAscended, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16Internet phenomenon, here we come!
  • Terminaltor, on 10/12/2007, -2/+24

    zero nine
    eff nine
    one one
    zero two
    nine dee
    seven four
    eee three
    five bee
    dee eight
    four one
    five six
    cee five
    six three
    five six
    eight eight
    cee zero
  • djphatjive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+25093-911-0293743352384-156-2563568820

    There it is as a phone number!!!!!
  • oktobr, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Like my user image? Just some randon black and white squares...
    I recommend you switch to using it too, if you're at a loss for a new one.
  • pitfallharry, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1How long until a C&D letter will go out for blogs/sites reporting on the story about the hack.... and then a C&D on the reporting of the reporting of the story...
  • sickswaystop, on 10/12/2007, -7/+18***** CENSORSHIP THIS IS WHY USE THE INTERNET
  • Terminaltor, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5bury every single other topic, just digg the hd-dvd one
    BURY everything else, they can't win this fight
  • wildsnake, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3This is like stupid *****. C&D letters for numbers, even though they mean something to most people. Let's ban 69 too. People don't own number or letters. LOL
  • CiscoNoShut, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3kevin is afraid he might lose his brand new couch he just bought because he really doesn't make that much money...riiiight...
    • StillGaming, on 10/12/2007, -1/+20"***** yo' couch, Kevin!" *tramples HD-DVD code everywhere*
    • SuckMyDigg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3What about mah LEEEEEGS?
    • KennMac, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Rich motha-*****'s! You can buy a new processing key anyway!
  • picciano, on 10/12/2007, -4/+24http://09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0.justgotowned.com/

    (Sorry, no really, I'm sorry. Really.)
  • Lonforce, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10If you feel like I do..:

    http://digg.com/political_opinion/You_cowards_No_Number_should_make_you_betray_your_own_community
  • FormulaVette, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3(the secret hex number).COM is already taken :(
    • StillGaming, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1.NET was registered by one Gregory Williams. Whoops, that dude should registered through a proxy service, not that it'd even help.

      .ORG done got ate up, too.
  • lenny4422, on 10/12/2007, -1/+154 8 15 16 23 42
  • Looshi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5The fact of the matter, is that the MPAA has finally realized that they have lost. They key is out there and soon the software will be availible using it. If you can't stop piracy, how can you expect to control a text string? Once it is out there on the internet it is out there. This is nothing but a sign of desperation on their part. Typical, "If we can't be them we will threaten to sue them" nonsense.
    • iSEPIC, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5its not piracy, it's FAIR USE, ***** he DMCA which was thought of, funded by, and passed into law by these fcuking crooks.
    • Technopundit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4So they based their whole business model on a string of numbers? Seems they should have thought about this before they did it.
  • liquidboy2006, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6if someone posted an article stating kevin is a wanker for taking down legitimate news worthy articles, i rekon it will reach page 1!
  • firebird84, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Objection!

    http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1910192
  • Backstab, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2can they force someone to take it down even if they use it in a way that no way relates to HD DVD?
  • WhiteSox, on 10/12/2007, -6/+16PSSSSSSST
    F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C_
    ILL GIVE YOU A HINT
    THE LAST HEX CHARACTER IS ROUND!
    ......that is completely legal, yet if i told you what the last character was it'd be illegal. wtf *.
  • VinceNoir, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2What about THIS:
    0C 88 65 36 5C 65 14 8D B5 3E 47 D9 20 11 9F 90

    hehehe... Digg is gonna have a LOT of cleaning up to do. Yea! Let's bring down the blog plague!!! Digg will be the first blog to be taken down!!! LOLZ!!!1111!!!
  • Terminaltor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+809 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
    • iainc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Squirrelled away safely on disk for future reference :-)
  • fac3less, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3http://paste2.org/p/2931
  • digrboi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2wtf....now my comment's disappeared!!!
    grow up digg!
  • mookieXL, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Kevinrose dugg this? Wow!
  • wildsnake, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1Why are you ***** digging me down for agreeing you.
  • Mantarii, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3http://www.betterwhois.com/bwhois.cgi?verification=6985&domain=09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0.com&submitbtn=Continue
  • jeffna, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0That's less than 63 characters, right?

    I can't believe no-one's registered the domain yet.
    • Mantarii, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Domain is still registered (see the comment above yours for the whois information).
    • jeffna, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0cool :)
  • Terminaltor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4please bury every single other topic
    Thanks
  • o0joshua0o, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3If you store the number in your head it can't be deleted!
  • djphatjive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3This is a reason why we need a picture section. We could just post an image of it.
  • klaarn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3http://www.cjmillisock.com/extras/digg/SpreadThisStory/Spread_This_Number_Again.htm
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