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- LimeParrot, on 10/30/2007, -6/+307'...speeds up to 4.8Gbit/s, ten times faster than USB 2.0's 480MBit/s. It will be backwards-compatible with USB 2.0, which is backwards-compatible with the first USB 1.1 definition...' NICE
- inactive, on 11/06/2007, -12/+209Finally, 1.21 Jigawatts and beyond!
- gamer31, on 11/01/2007, -15/+152I can honestly say that when copying large video files to my flash drive i use the full bandwidth of USB 2.0. Being able to cut my transfer time from 4 minutes to 24 seconds would be really really nice.
- dtraneighty8, on 10/07/2008, -0/+135Too bad it'll be about 2 years before we can purchase it on the open market and on mobos.
- dartmanx, on 10/29/2007, -1/+111Is this fast enough for USB to be used as an internal bus (hard drives, network cards, etc)?
- johnstar, on 10/29/2007, -1/+67one port to rule them all!
- thejokell, on 10/29/2007, -0/+63I wonder how fast the sustained transfer rate will be. USB2 can burst to 480, but sustained speeds are actually much lower. Even if it's half speed sustained, that'll still be very quick though.
- luet, on 10/29/2007, -4/+60Are you kidding? Do you know how many times I've had to wait like 20 minutes transferring massive files to my portable USB harddrive? Even the "average person" you speak of has an iPod. Instead of waiting 30 minutes for their music collection to fill onto their iPod, they will wait 3 minutes.
- Po0py, on 10/29/2007, -0/+48Thats cool. It simply wouldn't stick if it wasn't backwards compatible. Tech companies would chicken out like they did with Firewire.
- justinjstark, on 10/30/2007, -2/+44It will be fantastic for high resolution digital cameras and digital video cameras among other things.
- kodax, on 10/29/2007, -3/+43I am surprised firewire did not catch on. Firewire 800 is damn fast.
- Lenny, on 10/29/2007, -3/+39This would go great with that samsung USB monitor.
- greatcaffeine, on 10/29/2007, -3/+36I'll get excited when I have a device that can utilize the speed.
- Trax91, on 10/29/2007, -4/+34Idiot. Just because YOU don't use it, doesn't means OTHER people doesn't use it.
- Twoodge, on 10/29/2007, -2/+30USB sound cards can be pretty useful (especially on laptops) so why not video cards and other components which require faster speeds?
- Infectedbull, on 10/29/2007, -2/+27It's about damn time.
- Jason10481, on 10/29/2007, -3/+28w00t! Now it won't take all night to backup my precious porn!
- adoggz, on 10/30/2007, -1/+24yes, my flash drive does need it.
- Antwan718, on 10/29/2007, -8/+30No you don't actually, the read/write speed on the drive is slower than the transfer rate of the wire
- chedabob, on 10/29/2007, -1/+22Because the bandwidth of the PCI-E bus is a hell of a lot more than USB (USB 2 is 480Mb/s (note the lowercase "b"), whereas PCI-E is 8GB/s (64x the speed))
- Quicksilver4648, on 10/29/2007, -1/+19Yeah, if I had a choice between USB 2.0 or FireWire I would have choose FireWire. That thing is amazingly fast. But I guess USB was just cheeper, smaller, and released at the right time. But wow, USB 3.0 is going to be crazy fast.
- inactive, on 10/29/2007, -2/+20Too bad Apple dropped the ball so badly on Firewire. Firewire 400 kicks ass over USB 2 in actual use, but WTF were they thinking with the connector for FW800? Didn't they learn anything from the never-ending SCSI cable fiascoes that defeated much of the benefit of that technology? USB manages to go through three generations with the same connector.
And then there's eSATA, which is killed by the monumentally stupid failure to provide POWER through the connection. This one stands as one of the more craven examples of human stupidity in recent computing history.
USB is for keyboards, mice, and modems folks. Firewire is a real interconnection mechanism for devices like hard drives. eSATA is a pain in the ass. It's incredible that in this day and age, we still don't have a forward-looking standard that doesn't overburden the processor with overhead. - goffy59, on 10/29/2007, -1/+19Personally I use Serial to transfer my files... wait, what does this have to do with anything?
- HUKI365, on 10/29/2007, -1/+18Actually it would be on the Zune, and Printer. Imagine transferring your entire 30gig collection of music to your Zune, twice as fast! OR perhaps that 10mb PDF, twice as fast to your printer!
- Bleachers7, on 10/29/2007, -3/+19This is old news. It was posted here a couple months ago.
- LvsSocer, on 10/29/2007, -0/+16Actually, flash drives have an lower throughput than hard drives. The current gen of drives will barely be able to use this speed increase, if at all.
Your constraint isn't USB 2.0 (480Mbit/s), its your hard drive (200-400Mbit/s depending on drive). An iPod has slow transfers b/c of the low speed disk inside. The flash versions aren't much faster.
I'm not saying USB 3 is useless, I'm just saying you are wrong about the speed increase the "average person" will see, which is none for now. - EXreaction, on 10/30/2007, -3/+18What are you talking about? The reason why SATA isn't fully used is because of the drive speed, but how are you comparing that to USB? There are more peripherals to USB than hard drives...
- wilhel1812, on 10/29/2007, -0/+15it's used much in video importing
- Lyanto, on 10/29/2007, -0/+15Flash drives need faster read/write speeds a lot more than insane transfer speeds...
- TVarmy, on 10/29/2007, -0/+15I thought Firewire came down to expense. It was fast because it had a dedicated chip rather than CPU resources. Thus, even though it has a slower top speed, it almost always performs better in real world tests. Unfortunately, that chip was not cheap enough to justify adding it to every motherboard, so it sort of became a pro-sumer AV thing.
- Jholder112233, on 10/29/2007, -3/+17I for one welcome our new flash-based overlords.
- TVarmy, on 10/29/2007, -0/+13Hmm. It could be like what expresscard was/is supposed to be. Components for both laptops and PCs that are just as powerful and fast as the old versions, but also allow one to upgrade the computer without opening up the case, or at least doing very little inside.
I'd be happy as a clam if they'd replace SATA, IDE, and all the other sort-of-fast connectors inside the computer with USB 3.0. Plus, no more worrying about adapters when trying to work with an internal component outside of the case. - zachlac, on 10/29/2007, -13/+26Exactly. Your mouse needs 4.8Gbit/s? How bout your flash drive? Not even hard drives need 4.8 Gbit/s. I'm not saying that this isn't a good technology, but at this point who the hell cares?
- verkon, on 10/29/2007, -0/+13Well said.
- superal1394, on 10/29/2007, -0/+12I just want them to increase the power rating so I can power 3.5 inch drives off one cord and carry them around. That would make any standard my immediate choice.
- JordanTW90, on 11/07/2007, -2/+14Now I can divide my usb ports to even more ports.
- fuzzynyanko, on 10/29/2007, -1/+13For my USB game controller, no. For when I yank out a dying hard drive and plug it into an EIDE2USB interface, hell yes.
- inactive, on 10/29/2007, -0/+12Like ***** mate! 480mbps = ~57mbyte/sec. I garaun-*****-tee you you're not writing 57megabytes per second to your flash drive
also FTR, if it takes you 4min 24secs; if you *were* maxing the USB2 bandwidth, 4m24s would be a 15gig file. Thats a mighty impressive flash drive my friend. - Wrathernaut, on 10/30/2007, -1/+13Q:"at this point, who the hell cares?"
A:Anyone who uses multiple throughput-heavy devices at a time. - Zippo, on 10/29/2007, -0/+11I suppose that's probably for the best... it would suck for people, like myself, who bought new laptops this year.
- Dan2552, on 10/29/2007, -4/+15Yep. Many times.
- BossKey, on 10/29/2007, -4/+15Yes, that's why I use FireWire 800. There are PLENTY of hard drives faster than USB 2.
Heck, if you do the research, the actual sustained real-world throughput of USB 2 is lower than FireWire 400.
In practice, Gigabit Ethernet is faster than FireWire 800 or USB 2, so I use that for backups.
I'm sorry that you are using such a low-performance computer/OS/peripheral that you've never exceeded USB 2 bandwidth. - modix, on 10/29/2007, -0/+11A flash drive that writes at 4.8 gb/s? What dream store have you been shopping at?
- Mejogid, on 10/29/2007, -1/+11Another key factor in that sort of usage case is latency - which won't be anything like as good on USB 3.0 as on PCI-E.
- iofthestorm, on 10/29/2007, -3/+13Honestly, most devices don't even hit 480Mbps.
- inactive, on 10/29/2007, -0/+9What do you mean "was"? Firewire 400 still kicks USB's ass, and it's found on just about every consumer video camera sold. And anyone who isn't totally ignorant buys external drive enclosures with both Firewire and USB, and uses Firewire whenever possible.
- energyblue, on 10/30/2007, -0/+9Great Scott!
- inactive, on 10/29/2007, -0/+9First of all, just about every consumer video camera out there has a Firewire port (albeit a *****, Sony-perverted four-pin one).
Second, you can blame Apple and their usual stupidity for Firewire's popularity deficit. I heard they initially had high licensing fees. Way to promote a "standard", Apple. Well, what do you expect from a company that perpetually pretends that it doesn't have to play well in the real world. - freakk123, on 10/29/2007, -3/+12Do yourself a favor and see Back to the Future.
- PathDaemon, on 10/29/2007, -1/+10You're being a ***** troll.
Why wouldn't you want a faster interface?? What if you have several devices, you don't want them all running at their max speeds? As for video, I remember times when I've been forced to have, say a DV deck on a same firewire bus as the hard drive I'm recoding to (like, on a laptop) and I'd have loved a faster interface then. What about RAIDs? I've seen disk arrays that need multiple eSATA ports because one can't handle 'em.
Even if there are no single devices out there which push 4.8Gb/s, people will be maxing this ***** out every day. The ***** is your point saying "do we really need this?" I almost cried when Gb ethernet came out and I realized that this network interface was faster than all my local interfaces.
I'm sorry for Slashdot that you're going over there. -
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