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- macbookpromat, on 04/11/2008, -0/+80I don't get it, is this some kind of ad?
- talonstriker, on 04/11/2008, -1/+61direct link: http://www.nvidia.com/object/balancedpc.html , since the article is useless
- Philluminati, on 04/11/2008, -1/+51I have an AGP socket not a PCI Express. That means I'm pretty much ***** now doesn't it?
- prator, on 04/11/2008, -0/+42Yes.
- Ganja420, on 04/11/2008, -1/+36laughable
- geoken, on 04/11/2008, -0/+32You were pretty much ***** 2 years ago.
- aladrin, on 04/11/2008, -2/+34No, worse. It's an article ABOUT an ad. The ad is surprisingly more informative.
- geoken, on 04/11/2008, -0/+27Wow, you know an article sucks when someone like danz32 comes along and not only summarizes it, but actually offers more information in a single paragraph.
- danz32, on 04/11/2008, -1/+28Basically nVidia is trying to state the relevance of one of their products (a dedicated GPU) in your system. If you click "Launch Configurator (from http://www.nvidia.com/object/balancedpc.html) you can see their main argument. What they are doing is saying your quad-core processor counts as 4 cores and your nVidia 8800GT with 112 stream processes counts as 112 cores. I don't know how I feel about that specific comparison, but their main point is true: a dedicated GPU is going to give you better performance
- aladrin, on 04/11/2008, -1/+19The whole point of the ad (which the article is about) is that your system IS bottlenecked. The GPU is holding the CPU back. They are suggesting that you upgrade your GPU to something that is more in line with your CPU so that overall performance isn't hampered.
- verkon, on 04/11/2008, -1/+18Of course my graphics card is underpowered, I got it last year.
- houndeyex, on 04/11/2008, -5/+21Pretty sure I've been telling my friends this forever. No, kids, upgrading your dual-core AMD to a quad-core Intel will not *significantly* improve your gaming and 3D intensive apps. (It might just a little). Take that extra cash and go buy a sick video card.
- Civil, on 04/11/2008, -2/+17For those that don't play the latest PC video games (i.e. most people), the article is a waste of time. The latest GPU will not perform any better in video editing, photoshop, office applications, or internet usage, as much as Nvidia would like you to think it does.
- Wartz, on 04/11/2008, -0/+14It depends on what you do with the PC. If you do a *****-ton of video encoding or DVD ripping or something, the quad will make it fly. But if you just browse, use word and play some video games not named Supreme Commander, then a Duo would work awesomely.
- Wartz, on 04/11/2008, -1/+14You need a CPU that can keep up with the 8800s.
- rtgordon, on 04/11/2008, -1/+13You can still get decent cards for AGP. Except not Nvidia. Look at Radeon HD 3850 for AGP.
- nerdherder, on 04/11/2008, -2/+14Not really that groundbreaking if your computer is a gaming machine. Many people bought 2 8800's when they first came out and put them in SLI. Buying a CPU worth that much would be very unnecessary.
- inactive, on 04/11/2008, -1/+12Depends what you do with it. And which graphics accelerator you got.
And it's not a card, it's integrated.
The older intel integrated gfx were pretty much useless. Could barely handle windows. The newer ones are starting to look pretty decent. I have the x3100 and I'm extremely happy with it. But I never use it to play PC games.
And if Intel is being accurate, they should be releasing integrated gfx that will start to outperform many standard graphic cars (no SLI). We're talking about 1 gig of dedicated memory and 1.8 ghz core clock. - midbc, on 04/11/2008, -0/+11don't buy a VIA chipset or expect a aging motherboard to physically accomadate new hardware
what do you mean my old 8mm film projector wont play blu-ray - inactive, on 04/11/2008, -1/+12Nvidia is in a tough spot, the 8800GT is as good as the 9800GT and the next-step in image quality is Ray Tracing and no one can do that well yet.
Nvidia has done good things for the PC world, but if their solution for future increased performance is mutli-gpu such as SLI, they will lose to better CPU designs. SLI is wasteful and expensive and hardly optimal under any circumstances.
3Dfx's Voodoo was a great card and hinted at all the things we expect in game today: visual fidelity and a sandbox for our creativity. I am looking forward to the next big thing and Nvidia will keep me as a valuable, always upgrading customer if they get there first. - LowFuel, on 04/11/2008, -1/+11Yeah! Take THAT, nVidia!
- opnickc, on 04/11/2008, -1/+10The 99% of the population who doesn't spend their time on tech websites.
- stalman, on 04/11/2008, -1/+10This is not an article. Link to articles, not to links to articles. Bury.
- lamul, on 04/11/2008, -0/+8I kept reading this article and then it just stopped.
Was this meant to be informative or something? Because all I got was nothing.
Was that just an ad for Google applications? - xenuxenuts, on 04/11/2008, -0/+8if you assembled it yourself you could replace the mobo and cpu, PCI-E motherboards are pretty cheap. While intel's core2 is faster, AMD's X2s are very cheap right now and still plenty fast for most people, so an upgrade can be quite inexpensive. If you bought something like dell or hp, upgrading the mobo isn't practical.
- solid12345, on 04/11/2008, -0/+8Honestly it pisses me off that all benchmarks are being rated on gaming nowadays. Why Adobe and Nvidia or ATI cannot create equipment dedicated towards video editing and handling large raster images is beyond me. I think the 3GB RAM limit in graphic software is becoming absurd and outdated, what good are new features in CS4 if my productivity & rendering time cannot be increased?
- Mootabolife, on 04/11/2008, -2/+9And you made this informed conclusion how if you upgraded them all at the same time?
- FredFredrickson, on 04/11/2008, -1/+8"Video processors do more to boost speed than main processors, says nVidia"
Um... who didn't know this already? - fireburner23, on 04/11/2008, -1/+8Much better link than the article
- wukillabee, on 04/11/2008, -11/+18what about my intel graphics accelerator card? how does it rank? :(
- EdwardsNH, on 04/11/2008, -0/+7Well I've never heard that before.
Love,
Your Grandma - noumuon, on 04/11/2008, -1/+7until you buy a sick video card and realize your cpu is bogging down its performance in relation to what it could be doing...
- Harabeck, on 04/11/2008, -7/+13Wait, your GPU helps with running programs with high graphical requirements? So thats what I cant play Crysis...
- Psythik, on 04/11/2008, -0/+6If you got an C2D e8400 instead of a C2Q q6600, you'd actually get better gaming performance, even if you didn't OC.
When it comes to the GPU: if you want to spend a little bit, get the 8800 GT or 8800 GTS G92. If you want to spend a little bit more, go for the 9800 GTX. - ProjectGSX, on 04/11/2008, -1/+6Makes sense. I spent about $150 on a CPU and $400 on video cards for my current system.
- alexpigment, on 04/11/2008, -0/+5it's because the AGP bus speed is the bottleneck. video card makers don't have a large impetus to make newer cards in AGP because an informed customer would know that an older GPU would have about the same level of performance as a newer one that is bottlenecked like crazy. sure, there are new technologies being implemented in newer GPUs, but in terms of raw processing power, you're wasting your timing buying a new AGP card. either accept your current GPU or BUY A NEW CPU/MOBO. besides, you can get a surprisingly good system for how much you would pay for that 3850.
- trollick, on 04/11/2008, -2/+7I went from... oh wait... nobody ***** cares!
- fireburner23, on 04/11/2008, -3/+8If it is, the ad sucks
- playuhh, on 04/11/2008, -2/+7wtf? That still looks pretty ***** useless to me... digg me down?
- SonicRush, on 04/11/2008, -0/+4Not very surprising these days, with all these lame blogs that dumb down and speculate about content and then post a link to it just to generate traffic.
- oxymoron69, on 04/11/2008, -1/+5Sounds like the moral of the story is to look before you leap.
Or to dumb it down a lil, research your large(r) hardware purchases before buying *****. Somebody else has already bought that hardware/reviewed it to save you the time and hassle of finding parts that just can't mate ;-) - NanoStuff, on 04/11/2008, -0/+4I say we start a petition for ISA slot 8800GT. This is discrimination for those of us still running a Cyrix. I'm a gamer, why do I need a CPU?
- init100, on 04/11/2008, -0/+4"What they are doing is saying your quad-core processor counts as 4 cores and your nVidia 8800GT with 112 stream processes counts as 112 cores. I don't know how I feel about that specific comparison"
I'd say the comparison is flawed. You cannot compare general-purpose processors like the cores in the CPU to the very specialized stream processors in the GPU. - korbink, on 04/11/2008, -0/+4Wow, that was awesome!
- HyperJack, on 04/11/2008, -2/+5I went from zero GB of ram to two GB of ram. Outstanding improvement.
- jpmoney03, on 04/11/2008, -0/+3You are starting to be a techie when you know what they both are.
- okaroleo, on 04/11/2008, -0/+3I approve this message.
- Wartz, on 04/11/2008, -0/+3Yes.
- Luminoth, on 04/11/2008, -0/+3Settle down there sparky, it was just a joke.
- FredFredrickson, on 04/11/2008, -0/+3Grandma doesn't need a video card to play poker online. :P
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