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- spyd3rweb, on 10/12/2008, -9/+58Stop fooling yourself, this isn't for use in the battlefield this is for use on civilians during riots, protests and Martial Law.
- allowners, on 10/12/2008, -7/+42Just in time for homeland deployment of the army.
- doiveo, on 10/10/2008, -4/+34Difference being expectations. You expect your gun to kill if you get a head shot. If the army expects this weapon to perform 'crowd control' and ends up killing people then, well, that would be bad.
- debunkthelies, on 10/12/2008, -4/+33The weapons of war are not designed to enhance life, but to destroy it.
- TheMadPoet, on 10/11/2008, -8/+35Waterboard 2.0
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………………………..¯””^~~~~^” - MindTrigger, on 10/12/2008, -0/+21Well, I hope everyone understands that these devices will be deployed for crowd control INSIDE the U.S in the near future. We all know how the police like to deal with legal/peacful protests by shooting people with rubber bullets, water canons, and pepper balls. When these devices were first announced, it was actually suggested that they be tested here at home (on you) before deployed for war use.
- shauncullen, on 10/12/2008, -3/+22You mean opening the door on a massive industrial microwave and pointing it at living things could result in flesh boiling? Damn.
- Dumbledorito, on 10/12/2008, -0/+19The truck-mounted ones are plenty scary. But the ones that send even more chills up my spine are the ones they're going to mount in the ceilings of small, windowless rooms in places where extradition is "extraordinary."
- chaaalieboy, on 10/12/2008, -9/+24Not long until they start trucking these into the states. Kiss your right to freedom of assembly and freedom of speech goodbye, bitches.
- bluesnowmonkey, on 10/12/2008, -0/+14It is useless for warfare and great for oppression. Why does a nation of free men need these things?
- Brak710101, on 10/12/2008, -2/+16Not sure how different this from the smaller units, but I did get a demonstration of this technology at CMU. Hurt like hell, but no damage was there, and the pain instantly disappeared which left a weird disbelief/tingly feeling after, as it really felt like burning your hand on something to a point of melting skin, then all of it going back to normal in a split second.
They didn't seem to think it could be lethal, and I'm still alive with no burns, but then again this wasn't mounted on a truck. - evilevil, on 10/12/2008, -0/+14I read "Palin Ray Trucks" and thought... OH GOD NO
- croxlol, on 10/12/2008, -1/+15I dont get how things work up there in the US, but I think that if they cant even bring (economic) peace into their own country they also wont be able to bring peace to other countries through war. Shouldnt those 25 millions be used for helping the poor or be spent in the bailout instead of using them for military equipment? ***** up priorities
- Th0m, on 10/12/2008, -1/+14We are all kinda ***** when they roll these on protesters in the USA.
BUT a Molotov cocktail or a few well placed rounds from my .30-06 should easily take one of these out of commission.
Police state what?
We could all just wear full body tinfoil suits. - Wakkyweed, on 10/12/2008, -1/+13Dammit Butters! You don't shoot people in the dick! It's just weak.
- lacronicus, on 10/10/2008, -13/+24You know, I'm starting to see some truth in the joker's comments about "the plan." If the designers of this "heat ray" had advertised it as a lethal weapon that sometimes failed, no one would care because then the deaths would be "part of the plan". But, since they decided to say it was a non-lethal weapon that sometimes killed people, everyone's all up in arms about it, despite the fact that we have guns and bombs that are far more lethal and are already being used without fuss.
- sheeplescareme, on 10/12/2008, -1/+12we did that some time ago...patriot act, fisa...only right in the bill o'rights they haven't altered is number 3. your home is all yours til china comes to claim it. ;-)
- vsaint, on 10/12/2008, -0/+10How about instead we don't spend 25 million on pain ray trucks.
- CogitatorX, on 10/12/2008, -0/+10I'll tell you what Big Brother why don't you not take my $25 million per sadism truck and instead use the cash to...oh, I don't know....rebuild the ***** infrastructure, or NOLA or pay down some of the crazy debt you goons have rang up!!!
Quit spending my money on death and pain. - predakon, on 10/12/2008, -2/+11You can't say that civilization don't advance; for in every war they kill you a new way.
--Will Rogers - sheeplescareme, on 10/12/2008, -0/+9hey, you! no thinking!
- Grummond, on 10/12/2008, -0/+9I'm always amazed at how some people claim they want less gun-control, so the people can keep the government in check, but at the same time support the government buying these "pain-compliance" devices to control the same people.
Directed energy weapons fired at your own public=big no-no where i come from.
Also, i like how they changed the term "non-lethal" to "less than lethal" to "less lethal" now...on all of these pain compliance devices. Too many lawsuits? - chillfaktor, on 10/12/2008, -0/+8I just tried to imagine that and it scared the crap out of me. Theres probably nothing closer to "burning in hell" than getting a full body treatment of torture beams for a couple of hours... If it's anything like brak71 described it above and it really does feel like your skin is melting this is probably the equivalent of waterboarding, except maybe "fireboarding" would be a more appropriate term...
- cjhowe, on 10/12/2008, -0/+8Wouldn't the alternative be to stop doing the things that create angry crowds?
- inactive, on 10/12/2008, -2/+10There is no proof that because you died of cancer 6 weeks after being hit with the beam that it causes cancer. Just like overhead power lines. Just because the instances of leukemia are higher closer to the power lines, there is no proof that power lines cause cancer. Just because you can illuminate a fluorescent light under the power lines without it ever being connected to a power source, that power lines give off any kind of harmful energy.
- aimhelix, on 10/12/2008, -2/+9just wait till our local 'crowd control' units use it on us.
- cvrti5, on 10/12/2008, -0/+7This thing can be defeated by standing behind a metal object. Or better yet, find a metal parabolic dish and hit 'em right back. And no, this thing won't melt through metal, otherwise it would kill people instead of burning them.
- WilliamDavis, on 10/12/2008, -0/+7Absolutely. This isn't a weapon for war. These weapons are for use against citizens.
- lovestospooge, on 10/12/2008, -0/+7Sounds like the Bene Gesserit box from Dune
- Grummond, on 10/12/2008, -0/+7Why did they change the official designation of these "crowd control" weapons from non-lethal to less than lethal, then again to less-lethal?
Did they make a mistake? - rickeylynnbrown, on 10/12/2008, -0/+7police state weapon cops are also ordering them
- inactive, on 10/12/2008, -0/+7yes.... and they laughed at my tinfoil hat all these years.
Well who's laughing now ! oh what's that? you can't answer me right now because your skull is being microwaved? oh well I can wait hahahaha. - Paulish, on 10/12/2008, -0/+6Uhhhhh I don't like the weapon either, but if its stated intent was for killing than it would only be used in situations when the goal was killing(supposedly). If its perpose is to disable people and when used it kills people instead of disabling them, that might cause fuss.
Disabling someone you intend to kill is perhaps optimal. Killing someone you intend to disable or disperse is an inappropriate escalation of force. - mynameistux, on 10/12/2008, -2/+8son of bitches == innocent civilians.
- Bulletbillx, on 10/12/2008, -0/+6Could this cause non visible damage though? or increased risk of anything like cancer or other ailments?
- LinusVanPelt, on 10/12/2008, -0/+6Yeah, those ***** in Iraq have it coming to them, after what they did to us! I'll never forgive them for that...stuff...I guess...that they did.
- sheeplescareme, on 10/12/2008, -1/+7so your kiddies can learn learn something new?
first they came for hippies and i was not hippie so i did nothing. then they came for the assh*les and took me! - locojones, on 10/12/2008, -2/+8This country is bankrupt, how exactly are we paying for these again? Oh that's right, on the grandkid's credit card.
- Grummond, on 10/12/2008, -0/+6Those are your only two options?
Man, I'd hate to live where you live. - evil-doer, on 10/12/2008, -0/+5i would bet you ANY amount of money they purposefully designed the unit to be turned up to 11 to kill people and thats one of the selling points they use while talking to the military. you think theres just an on and off button? im sure theres a strength setting. and the official excuse is that over longer distances it requires more power. but of course the douchebags that you know will be manning these things will crank that right up full.
- doublefelix, on 10/12/2008, -0/+5Dugg for getting zapped by that thing.
- Endit, on 10/12/2008, -0/+5it may not kill me, but I don't want to feel my skin melting!
- crossmr, on 10/12/2008, -0/+5I support a mandatory, daily, 5 year-testing regime on MrBabyman to study the effects.
- x2cube, on 10/12/2008, -0/+5a non-lethal beam wouldn't burn a hole through the aluminum though
you could figure out the wavelength and make a microwave shield with a bunch of holes like they do for regular microwaves. i suppose then you'd just get shot by a regular rifle though - kuyman, on 10/12/2008, -1/+6Bless you, child, bless you.
- inactive, on 10/12/2008, -0/+5yeah in the hands of george W bush, this could really cause some damage.
- inactive, on 10/12/2008, -1/+5US citizens don't generally have access to RPG's
This is for domestic crowd control and riot dispersal.. pain compliance technology for the upcoming martial law police state.
Sleep tight ! - nickem, on 10/12/2008, -0/+4Who cares about side effects!! Where can I get one?? Maybe it could be mounted on a Harley; just for retaliation - just in case. Who knows how it could be used? They could easily melt a crowd then drop a pistol and say "self defense". Then again, that's just me talking. Please don't bring a constitution faxcimile, camera or a recording device to the demonstration, it will be confiscated. Please stand back at least 150 feet.These Freedom of Speech Deterent Devices can cause second thoughts. It will surely sent the politically correct mesage to the children.
- floejoe, on 10/12/2008, -0/+4Yes, I am confident the U.S. Army was concerned about giving cancer to people they want to kill.
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