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- socket, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8The registered ECC versions of these I tested cost about $4000 a pop. But that's because we get engineering samples straight from the big memory companies. So that is just replacement cost for insurance reasons.
I've have 4 GB modules for about 3-4 months now. I'll start testing on 8 GB modules after the new year. I have machines that can hold 512 GB of 4 GB modules. Needless to say this is designed for super high-end servers. So far I've verified that Windows 2003 Data Center can support 1/2 of it's quoted max of 1 TB of system RAM. I believe I'm one of the few in the world who has actually been able to do this in a testing environment. - geminitojanus, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9FlyingAvatar: please shut up. It says in the ***** article that this ram is intended for high end workstations and rack servers, which both definitely could see use for a 4GB ram module (seeing as most computers have 4 ram slots, that's 16GB of ram, which brings you right up there with the new Apple quad core G5s.)
FURTHERMORE, ECC should have been a TIPOFF that this ram is for servers, as ECC isn't as useful in a traditional desktop environment where memory is far more volatile and simple checksums do a better job.
Price tag for one of these babies will hit right around 2500-3000 dollars USD (ECC might add up to 1500 dollars on top of that, be aware of that).
Lastly, I remember back when they did this for 64 meg modules. Good times. Now once they manage to fab smaller ram cells we'll be in business with the ramp-up again. - tsupersonic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14GB? In a few years, we'll be laughing at that.
- redrover, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Doesn't surprise me, with the way games are getting more and more powerful. Bigger and bigger requirements. I think the rate at which system requirements increase is rivaling the rate at which Gas prices rose earlier this year.
- taseedorf, on 09/16/2008, -0/+1I easily use more than 2 gigs of ram when I use a PC. You must be one of 'dem guys that facebooks and checks his spam mail.
- socket, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I just looked at the picture of Apacer's 4GB module and had to laugh at how ugly it is. The ones I've been testing are normal height with double stacked chips (on both sides obviously). They also come from a much better name as far as memory manufactures go as well. =)
- KidVicious, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I have 1 gig in my pc, and I hit about 80 percent if I'm doing something really resource-hungry. I'm still gonna put another gig in there. Couldn't hurt.
- saskboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0.000640GB of RAM is all anyone will ever need on their rack server. - Saskboy
- saskboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0For people who like to run an OS from RAM, you can load Knoppix or Damn Small Linux right into RAM if you've got either 1GB or 128MB respectively with the linux -toram command at bootup. The help options at boot spell it out for you, and wow that OS is fast when you do it.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0rarley exxceed my 766mb of ram........... 4 gigs? 16 gigs?! (apple)
- jjb123, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I don't even know if that thing would fit in my case, what is it like 3 inches tall?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0remember those days of 32 megs of rams, while same thing except gigs in a few years
- Bindibadgi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0HAHA double height double size isnt exactly revolutionary. It's not double capacity chips on it and i bet it costs more than twice as much cause it uses at least twice as much materials.
As for the amount of memory, i use 1-2gig normally. FEAR needs 2gig to properly run smoothly, and CIV4 needs >2gig if you want 12 players and a huge map. 1gig is a minimum these days, and 2gig is still a luxury though, but a nice big buffer of luxury :D - rewritable, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'll buy 4 of those just so I canbe like "I ttly pwn yur cmtr
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0most gamer dont use 4gigs too.. but with 4 gigs you could setup a ram drive and install windos in ram
or even just install the whole game in ram..
you dont have to touch that much ram as ram but you dont have to waste it either. - Philoushka, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"No serious gamer uses ECC RAM"
No one said anything in the original posting or in the article about gaming. You could make the same comment about gaming, handheld devices, calculators, TIVOs, etc ad nauseum. So ECC doesn't fit with gaming, that's out of left field. No one mentioned gaming.
Anyone who thinks that ECC is for a gaming machine needs to go back to Computing 101.
Maybe digg is just for gaming teenagers? Go back to G4. - Smokezz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0/shrug, I use all available RAM all the time with 1GB...
- alexanderhazard, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"It's frightening to think that some day, a typical PC will ship with this as base ram. How much bloat in OS and applications are we going to be forced to accept. Sheez!"
IN the same sense, most computors ship with 512mb right now. I remember how amazed i was when i put a 32 in my old PII - znxster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0bigger != better.. .. .. bah who am i kidding!
- sporkman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0man, I'm getting 4!
- Acill, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Nice, but way to much money I'm sure. I have 8GB in my dual G5 Power Mac and it was an arm and a leg to get. I cant even start to think what one single 4GB stick would sell for.
- Whitey04, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Using "chip stacking" technology. We learned this 'breakthrough' as undergrads in computer engineering.
- Brak710101, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Broke the 4GB barrier? Alot of servers have 4 12GB sticks...
- synystar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Running an OS from RAM does not require a re-install on reboot. It's a simple matter of copying all of the system files and assigning a drive letter.
- MightyGoldenBoy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I agree, 4GB is cool, and I'm we're moving along, but until they can fit the standard form factor, it just seems like a bust. Especially with RAM add-in cards available for extra slots. Still, +digg.
- KyleKaplan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0with the cost of this ram supposedly being like 2 to 3 grand you would be much better off getting 2 or 4 sticks of DDR2 2GB running at like PC6400
- gbm85, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Install Windows in RAM? If that's even possible, which doesn't seem very likely, you'd have to reinstall Windows every time you rebooted. Makes perfect sense to me... /sarcasm
- SDNick484, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Memory of this size use to impress me until I interned in the engineering department of a rather large bank (number of customers is in millions). In our pre-production environment, machines with less than 4GB were rare (mostly used for internal web sites) and our database machines used anywhere from 32GB-96GB (we use a lot of Sun hardware, V1280's, E4900, etc.). I can't even imagine the big metal the production site uses.
- L0phtpDK, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Are you kidding me? For one, it totally looks photoshopped (but I'm sure it’s not though). Two, I wonder how long it took the engineer to figure that one out: "Lets take two sticks of memory and fuse them together on one board... we'll call it the double-decker!" "Brilliant!"
I'm surprised that this would fit into a blade server...
Not innovative enough for me. -no Digg - jfritz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0unless any of you have a high end workstation or manage a server environment, you shouldn't get this ram anyway.
- TheMJ, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0damn, socket. I wish I was you. thats 2x more ram than I have hard drive space.
*sigh* - live2die, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Googles been used that style of Ram for as long as ive worked for them
- andyzweb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0wow and in that sad little draw I still have 16K (yes thats right 16 kilobytes) ram from the early 80's thats soo sad, 2gb of ram is fine for me though
- exBBoi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Hello? this is new? u have to be kidding me!
no digg - BxBoy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Windows will eat right threw that!
- crossers, on 07/21/2008, -0/+0and what to do with this?
http://www.leannrimes.info
http://www.shpe-sac.org
http://www.pmidsig.org - ZackRabbit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0They've had 4GB DDR memory modules for about a while now (possibly a year). Crucial has them... The price has gone down about $1200 since last I checked... but still super expensive! jeeeebus
http://www.crucial.com/store/partspecs.Asp?IMODULE=CT51272Y265 - billygreen23, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1that quote is always taken completely out of context. anyone who uses that to make fun of bill gates is an idiot.
- SuidAfrikaner, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Good gravy. To paraphrase someone we all know and love, who's ever going to need more than 2 GB ram? Oh wait...
- JMJimmy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0no digg. 333 bah, and they've already shown that smaller chips run together to make larger sizes are 20-25% faster anyway.
- master_of_fm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Brak710101 is retarded no such thing as a 12GB DIMM never has never will
- Protoss, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I am gonna upgrade from 512 to 2gb, gonna buy 2 1gb dual channel kits...
- Osiriscky3, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0*wipes up drool and drools in the area where the other drool was*
- JKimball, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Reminds me of the quote of Bill gates "No one will need more than 637 kb of memory for a personal computer."
- Ricapar, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0*drool*
- FlyingAvatar, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0geminitojanus,
My comment was a reply to the poster, who seems pretty misinformed with his mention of too bad it's "DDR333".
I also like how you tell me to shut up and then proceed to repeat what I stated in my comment. Well done.
And yes, they've double stacked chips like this on SIMMs and DIMMs forever, I've seen it done on 4mb SIMMs, and I'm sure they've done it on smaller modules when the technology wasn't available. - synystar, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0geminitojanus, please shut up. I just felt like saying that.
- FlyingAvatar, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1Whatever, how often do you have more than 1-2 gig of RAM allocated? Unless you're running a crazy ass database server, this isn't useful. Most people waste their money buying more than 512mb-1gb since they never end up really touching anything more than that.
Also, whose desktop motherboard accepts ECC RAM? No serious gamer uses ECC RAM, because doing the error checking adds latency. There aren't performance timing ECC sticks available for this reason.
Considering the price difference of a 1gb DDR333 ECC stick and a 2gb: $230 (1gb) to $660 (2gb), I would guess this would cost somewhere around $2000.
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