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- hello2usir, on 10/12/2007, -0/+51Sorry, the method only works on humans
- icoms, on 10/12/2007, -3/+50pr0n dreams plz
- scinju, on 10/12/2007, -4/+49pr0n dreams? You aim low. I'm thinking more menage a trois while saving the world from imminent destruction. In a non-diplomatic fashion. A la 007.
I'd also want a butler. Not in there with me, but just to throw the fully loaded pistol at the exact moment. You know, so I can save the world. Again. In bed. - dj_sea2005, on 10/12/2007, -4/+31the fun is getting them to sleep first :)
chloroform ftw - Infexor, on 10/12/2007, -3/+24That would involve... err... better not say.
- RavenXeo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22Touch them gently in places....i guess anyway..not that i've tried it...
- johnsto, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18Derren Brown demonstrated this in one of his shows a month or so ago. Worked really well but was slightly disturbing... The subject had been told not to sleep during the night, such that he would fall asleep very quickly and be more suggestible, but was not aware of the purpose. Derren whistled short tunes to him during his sleep, which he had already associated with images of sheep and snow.
The room the guy was in had a secret wall - while he was asleep, the producers silently removed the wall, which had a crazy colourful world on the other side with sheep, snow and dwarves. The guy was then woken up but believed he was still dreaming, so happily walked around this area thinking it was all part of his dream. The tune Derren whistled was being played in the background. He was then beckoned back to bed and told to go back to sleep by soft voices broadcast into the room.
At the end of the trick, Derren woke the guy up properly, asked him about his dream and questioned why his feet were covered with snow and mud. The poor bloke couldn't explain it. - webspy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17what about err.... doing things with your tongue to your partner while she's asleep???
- firenx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13mmmmm dimethyl tryptamine
- Wootery, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Yeah, it doesn't contain anything more specific than msaleem's overview...
- Settra, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13That article sucked..
- chicken101, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9I had a dream about a black gnome not 'alf an hour ago.
- rishdeep, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10I find that music played in the mornings but not loud enough to wake me up effects my dreams. A couple of nights ago, I had my uncle rapping along to Lose Yourself (Eminem) when it came on the radio. You shoulda seen him, he knew EVERY word!
- MattH, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6just sleep with the TV on .
- Neme, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7The study concludes that dream deprivation leads to all those negative effects.
I don't think they thought it through too well - being awakened multiple times during the night is probably what is going to lead me into being depressed, anxious, etc. - shumacher, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I made that mistake. I fell asleep watching Adult Swim a few times. Waking up to Ed, Edd and Eddy isn't a good thing. Gigantor is even worse.
- shumacher, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5That is a thing of beauty. I see a whole new line of psychic scams. If people can fool people with psychic surgery, this should be a real money maker. "Make psychic contact with loved ones in your dreams - medium Madame Gibrail will turn your dreams into reality. You'll bring something back from the other side!"
- templest, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I'll never *not* have another wet-dream again. :-)
- Klowner, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9so, what do asian schoolgirls smell like?
- intoflatlines, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"Each time a subject's rapid eye movements indicated they were starting to dream (REM sleep), the researchers would wake them up and keep them from dreaming. It seems that it only takes a few days of dream deprivation before the symptoms begin to occur."
They said that they found that depriving someone of dreams will cause various adverse symptoms, but it seems like their method for proving this is only to deprive people of REM sleep. Sure, REM sleep is the stage sleep in which dreaming occurs, but REM stage does not mean someone is dreaming. REM sleep is believed to be the stage of sleep in which the brain processes and stores information in long term memory, basically like a nightly maintenence for the brain. So, it's not that a lack of DREAMS cause depression, paranoia, etc. Rather, it's the lack of REM sleep that causes it.
I'm sure if you disturb someone in Delta wave sleep that their body will be tired, since that's the stage of sleep that rests the muscles. - Browncoat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"In a study conducted by Dr William Dement, a professor of psychiatry at Stanford University, it was found that dream deprivation produces anxiety, irritability, an inability to concentrate, paranoia, a ravenous appetite, depression, and even suicidal thoughts. The study was very simple. Volunteers were assigned beds in a laboratory. Researchers observed them closely for five nights. Each time a subject's rapid eye movements indicated they were starting to dream (REM sleep), the researchers would wake them up and keep them from dreaming. It seems that it only takes a few days of dream deprivation before the symptoms begin to occur."
What they didn't print in the article
"...the researchers would wake them up and keep them from dreaming. It seems that it only takes a few days of dream deprivation before the symptoms begin to occur. However these claims have yet to be substantiated as Dr William Dement has yet to turn in his report and is assumed missing."
Another name for that test.
Annoying - canUdiggit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2If I kept getting woken up in the middle of the night, I am sure I would have those symptoms too, regardless of how many dreams I had.
- c0uchm0nster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I wake up at least 4 times a night, which is a feat since I usually only manage about 5 hours sleep in the first place, and not only do I remember a minimum of 2 dreams a night, but I'm also not depressed anxious or any of that crap.
My conclusion? It doesn't matter how popular you are in your dreams, if you're still a lonely loser in real life then you're going to be depressed and possibly anxious. - carpespasm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3There is nothing more irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge, and i knew we would be getting into that rotten stuff sooner or later...
- EtherGnat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Easy enough to test for. All you'd need would be a control group you woke up the same amount of times while they *weren't* in REM sleep. I'm not sure if they've tried that or not. I can tell you one thing as somebody with multiple sleep disorders who is seriously REM deprived: It sucks!
- rs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This article doesn't address the trick with the dish of warm water, about which we always used to speculate at summer camp, but nobody ever got up the guts for an empirical test...
- JustMatt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I was thinking the same thing. I don't dream as far as I know. Unless dreaming and not remembering the dream still counts as dreaming and not dream deprivation. I can't remember the last time I dreamed.
- sogracefully, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1right, it's actually the deprivation of stage 5 sleep, which is the stage in which your body heals itself from the trauma of the previous day, and dreaming is basically equivalent to the brain watching tv while it does its daily harddrive backup or something equally boring-but-necessary. so the anxiety and irritability probably have nothing to do with the dream interruption, but the sleep stage interruption more specifically.
- tearor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1OK. True story,,
I was in a serious car accident and was in a coma. My brother and cousin came into my room, and when there was no nurse around, my cousin pulled out a big bud of sinsemilla and wafted in under my nose. The next day I came out of the coma.
Not that it means anything,,but just a little ironic. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1They claim that in their study the way they ensured that people would not dream was by constantly waking them up. This seems like a whole other variable. Couldn't it be possible that the reason people were experiencing such symtoms as "anxiety, irritability, an inability to concentrate, paranoia, a ravenous appetite, depression, and even suicidal thoughts" is from bad sleep patterns alone? It does not seem to me to be strongly linked to lack of dreams...
- viva162, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1yea that article is kind of pointless. but at the bottom theres a link to http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/05/07/the_odd_body_nearly_naked_ape/ now *that* is cool.
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- lazyguy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1it works, lol.
been sleeping with a fan on these 2 days - cooltom2006, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Pretty cool.
I might try making someone have a nightmare sometime...HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA! - himey, on 10/12/2007, -10/+4I usually do....But most people call them nightmares.
- YesWorld, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1Unfortunately, the article doesn't mention the most intriguing way of influencing other people's dreams: telepathy.
The first in-depth experiments were made in 1966 at the Maimonides Medical Center, and involved a sender trying to send information at distance to a sleeping receiver. Here are the latest results on this type of research, from Dean Radin's just released book "Entangled Minds":
"In 2003, British psychologists Simon Sherwood and Chris Roe from University College Northampton, England, reviewed all of the dream psi studies from the original Maimonides series through the latest at-home experiments. All of these tests shared two key factors: They all tested whether information at a distance could be perceived in dreams, and they were all conducted under controlled conditions that excluded mundane explanations like sensory cues or recording mistakes.
Sherwood and Roe found 47 experiments involving a total of 1270 trials. The overall hit rate was 59.1% where 50% is expected by chance. This 9.1% increase over chance may not sound like much, but it's associated with odds against chance of 22 billion to 1. That rules out coincidence as a viable explanation."
Also, the meta-analysis found no evidence of selective reporting (the "file drawer" effect).
For those with academic access:
A Review of Dream ESP Studies Conducted Since the Maimonides Dream ESP Programme
http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/imp/jcs/2003/00000010/F0020006/art00006 - fatsobob, on 10/12/2007, -12/+3HMMM, I might have to try this experiment sometime on one of my brothers. Just to see what happens :)
- dbr_onix, on 10/12/2007, -13/+3..not quite sure what you'd have to do to make someone dream that..
- Ben
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