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- ygeoff419, on 03/20/2009, -10/+71Sounds like someone dropped acid :)
- bigtallmofo, on 03/21/2009, -5/+57When I first started reading all of the innacuracies in the article - like how it claims that "entanglement was hardly mentioned in regular courses on quantum physics" - I was thinking, this is total tripe *****. Then I saw that it was on The Guardian, and I realized that it was just for science-fiction entertainment purposes. Then I saw it was submitted by MyBabyMan and I dugg it down.
- atlasdugged, on 03/20/2009, -4/+49what I call love you call quantum entanglement
- NiftyG, on 03/21/2009, -1/+41What makes girls more beautiful than they appear is called alcohol entanglement.
- Perdido, on 03/21/2009, -1/+30"Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. That we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream and we're the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather."
R.I.P. Bill Hicks - barrimon, on 03/21/2009, -3/+32That article was horribly written. Maybe he should have taken a few courses in communication instead of loading up on the hard science.
The only thing he explained was the theory of entanglement. He didn't talk about anything else at all. We need a much more varied educational system so smart guys like this can explain difficult concepts to the masses. And we wonder why it took so long for people to understand global warming. - supernovasky, on 03/21/2009, -2/+23Yup. Anybody who has dropped acid can tell that what we see in our everyday lives is not the true reality... it is reality filtered through a maze of channels, tubes, and filters that draw the true meaning out and flood it with our own biases.
- inactive, on 03/21/2009, -2/+20The 'scientist' is on the Templeton prize? Isnt that the religious crazies? The lack of any real content in the article suggests hes just in it for the money. Watch out.
- boombye, on 03/21/2009, -2/+19That article isn't talking about reality in that sense, of course it exists, but we only see part of it.
- krisscofield, on 03/21/2009, -2/+17Or does it!
- kennethsteven1, on 03/21/2009, -1/+14I love learning about complex physics theories, but this article sucks. It goes nowhere. Or if it does, I fail to see it.
- Hexxd, on 03/20/2009, -6/+19I love learning about this!
- mtg101, on 03/21/2009, -1/+14Great. All the work and research we've done since the time of ancient Greece and we're back where we started. What we perceive is just Plato's Cave, and in the end all matter is just the Harmonics of strings.
- HamstaMan, on 03/21/2009, -10/+21Of course reality is just a state of mind. Things that we take for granted, vision, hearing, touch, smell are just a few of a huge amount of different sensory inputs, which form what we in our minds perceive as reality.
- hypertension, on 03/21/2009, -1/+11I believe you have it mixed up -- Socrates/Plato believed in the shadow reality, and Aristotle believed in the concreteness of this world, founding many scientific fields of study.
- boombye, on 03/21/2009, -1/+10Whoever dugg me down is a moron, because if you can see the world beyond 4D than you are awesome.
- joelsmif, on 03/21/2009, -1/+9This article isn't total *****, it is one physicists opinion. Interestingly enough there are a few accepted theories regarding the idea that distance isn't necessary in quantum mechanics, just particle interaction.
- the2989, on 03/21/2009, -0/+8Almost right...
"Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is mearly energy condensed to a slow vibration. We are all one consciousness sharing ourselves subjectively. There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. (Here's Tom with the weather.)"
Bill Hicks said it as a fake news story in his stand-up show, and Tool used the clip in their song "Third Eye". The live version uses a different clip of Tim Leary. - t0x2c, on 03/21/2009, -1/+9I have no idea why he's saying entanglement was shoved to the side for 30 years, in fact there was a ton of research from the 40s to 60s from Podolsky, and Rosen, Bohr, and Bell into these subjects.
He also states that information cannot be transmitted over an entangled system, when about 15 years ago IBM labs did just that.
This is why we can't have nice things. - HamstaMan, on 03/21/2009, -0/+8As explained in the comment buried higher up. We see what our sensory organs allow us to see. We see light (photons), we hear sound (vibrations in this planet's air), we feel temperature and objects in the path of our skin. We are able to smell when the receptors in our noses respond to different kinds of molecules, and the taste is pretty much similar .
Now why is this such a difficult concept to grasp. Just imagen if we altered all our senses so that we for example would perceive smell through our skin and feel it as if it were sight, or if we were able to see vibrations in the air. The way we see reality is completely based upon how evolution made us, there's nothing absolute about sight, hearing or any other senses. - andrewtheart, on 03/21/2009, -3/+11The cake is a lie.
- supernovasky, on 03/21/2009, -3/+10Uzibeatle, I am sorry that you did not have as pleasurable of an experience as I did. That being said though, if someone really thought they could fly, why jump from the top of a building? Why not just take off from the ground? I have tripped LSD probably a hundred times now, and I realize that reality itself is not being altered by taking the LSD, but instead, it is your perception of reality that is altered. However, in this altered perception, I believe that you can see reality for what it truly is, more easily than the clouded perception of what people lovingly call sobriety. The day to day lives of ants, living by rules and customs and filtering everything through their latticework imprint of social mind, is (while industrious) far from truth and beauty. I do not nor does anyone else need a drug to show this to me, but in my eyes, there has never been a drug, a substance, more easily to strip you down to the core of what it means to be human than LSD.
People think LSD is all about seeing ***** and hallucinating, but thats only 1% of the drug. The vast majority of the drug is radically changing the way you think and perceive by showing you who you really are inside.
:) And for those who decide to partake, do so without fear but with confidence and a sense of curiosity, for the best experience. - minuskelvin, on 03/21/2009, -0/+7The tone of the article immediately put me on edge -- it sounded like he was trying to sell something. I definitely think he was in it for the money.
But then again, he's 88 years old... Still ***** though. Maybe it's senility. - Ridikul, on 03/21/2009, -0/+7Someone actually using "nerd" as an insult on Digg? I'm going to Reddit.
- noumuon, on 03/21/2009, -1/+8philosophy fail. you're thinking of plato:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_cave - 0biKwiet, on 03/21/2009, -0/+6This sounds like a roundabout way of saying that humans aren't omniscient.
Once again, Captain Obvious to the rescue. - fender01, on 03/21/2009, -0/+6Agreed that the article is lacking detail. But I think what he is saying is a strict consideration of the nonlocality in quantum mechanics (experimentally supported through use of Bell's theorem) describes a reality that cannot possibly be understood through the models of places, objects, and times that make up our conception of the familiar world (reality) around us. Quantum mechanics seems correct yet it does not appeal to common sense.
- tomjthayer, on 03/21/2009, -7/+13Sounds like somebody took the red pill.
- rhabdomancer, on 03/21/2009, -0/+6Lighten up, Francis.
- boombye, on 03/21/2009, -0/+6I just have to bring this up again.
"what cannot be sensed cannot be sensibly discussed."
Seriously, did you learn this lesson in life from a school or from a church? - Wilddigi, on 03/21/2009, -6/+12We are all in a holodeck program
- epimortum, on 03/21/2009, -1/+7Yes reality exists. Experience, however, is something entirely different.
People can and do make themselves believe things that are known to be false. They do this for various reasons which in this context is wholly unimportant. The fact remains that people are able to alter their perception of reality thus altering their own reality while not affecting the true reality that exists independent of them and their experiences. I am limiting my population to what would normally be considered people mental stability. Though those with diagnosed / diagnosable conditions are further evidence that reality can be independently interpreted, parsed, and output as truth despite the output's obvious inconsistencies and flaws. - Key2gb, on 03/21/2009, -1/+7senses are filters
- t0x2c, on 03/21/2009, -0/+5Repasting my comment down here (eg I agree with you):
I have no idea why he's saying entanglement was shoved to the side for 30 years, in fact there was a ton of research from the 40s to 60s from Podolsky, and Rosen, Bohr, and Bell into these subjects.
He also states that information cannot be transmitted over an entangled system, when about 15 years ago IBM labs did just that. - ColonelJessup, on 03/21/2009, -4/+9There is no spoon...............
- moxley, on 03/21/2009, -0/+5So what about the article is *****?
Quantum entanglement? That's a fact, verifiable, proven...That the act of observing particles changes their behavior in scientifically verifiable ways? Proven.
Now everyone has their own opinion as to what this means, but whatever their opinion is, it isn't "*****" (unless they live in a reality where everything that they either don't understand or believe themselves is *****, but then - we all create our own reality).
I will most definitely agree that we don't know everything; in fact, I would say we barely KNOW anything. - bigtallmofo, on 03/21/2009, -7/+12Then read a book about quantum physics, because this article is total *****. I recommend as a starter The Particle Garden. It won't claim all kinds of stupid science fiction mumbo-jumbo like is in the article, but it will be accurate and it will satisfy your curiosity - to a point. We just don't know everything yet. :)
- boombye, on 03/21/2009, -1/+6I think it's that our brain only perceives this reality in 4 Dimensions, in that we don't see all of reality because that is our limitation. It's like how String Theory proposes there to be up to like 11 Dimensions. This is really not a new theory.
- cesclaveria, on 03/21/2009, -0/+5damn.. the common digger used to be a techie :(
- inactive, on 03/21/2009, -0/+5swing and a miss
- ianweller, on 03/21/2009, -1/+6Um... duh? Everything is perceived through our mind and our minds can't handle too much content at once. So we get the "shadow" part, the part we can see/remember/grok.
- noumuon, on 03/21/2009, -1/+5"what cannot be sensed cannot be sensibly discussed."
never take a math course; you might have to talk about an abstraction! oh no :o - rusty11, on 03/21/2009, -0/+4yea, didn't Socrates say something about this, but nobody listened to the smelly madman
- buckrogers1965, on 03/21/2009, -3/+7According to Aristotle what we perceive to be reality is no more than shadows on a wall.
According to Buddhist traditions we create the universe in our mind from our perception of reality. I looked into robotics a bit a few years ago and this is the route I would have taken as well, using the sensors in the robot to create a model of the universe that the robot could understand. - cesclaveria, on 03/21/2009, -1/+5I was thinking the same thing, then I noticed he was talking about before the early sixties, I guess the courses were pretty different before.
- emjaymj, on 03/21/2009, -0/+4No, no. The Internet is a SERIES of tubes.
- bobbi21, on 03/21/2009, -0/+4You're right it doesn't go anywhere except "quantum entanglement should be taught in school". Disappointing.
- t0x2c, on 03/21/2009, -1/+5@nourmuon: actually getting your sources right is a history fail. A philosophy fail would be a failure of the philosophy itself.
- BrapAllgood, on 03/21/2009, -2/+5"Reality exists, get over it."
All reality is aspect dependent. Get over it yourself. - boombye, on 03/21/2009, -0/+3Are you retarded or something? You dugg me down for saying this is because we can only perceive 4 dimensions, 3 being movement + 1 for time... It's not like we can go beyond that, we do know that there are more than 4 dimensions, we just perceive them all....
"I understand that unorthodox new theories are necessary for developing new technology, but that's for the techies to worry about, not the common digger."
What does that have to do with the article or my ability to grasp simple physics? I'm not trying to develop new technologies and the purpose of such an article is not to bring about new technologies, nobody is trying to invent the matrix, and if you're one of those dumb asses that thinks this article is saying our perceived reality is not real than you're an idiot.
This article poses the notion that we are essentially not seeing the bigger picture, it's not saying reality is false, just that it's incomplete which it is. We operate at a maximum of 4 dimensions so there's a lot we're not seeing going on.
"In physics, the fifth dimension is a hypothetical extra dimension beyond the usual three spatial dimensions and one time dimension of Relativity. The Kaluza-Klein theory used the fifth dimension to unify gravity with the electromagnetic force; e.g. Minkowski space and Maxwell's equations in vacuum can be embedded in a 5-dimensional Riemann curvature tensor (Embedding.pdf eq. 37). Kaluza-Klein theory now is seen as essentially a gauge theory with gauge group the circle group. M-theory suggests that space-time has eleven dimensions, seven of which are "rolled up" to below the subatomic level. Physicists have speculated that the graviton, a particle thought to carry the force of gravity, may "leak" into the fifth or higher dimensions which would explain how gravity is significantly weaker than the other three fundamental forces." From wikipedia....
So essentially the article is talking about a person who probably believes in the notion of a 5th dimension. When it comes to physics, be it the math or science aspect, nobody cares about what you can sense buddy. If you want to sense stuff, go worship whoever you worship. -
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