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- picciano, on 10/11/2007, -0/+19Next, chocolate?
- rmtatum, on 10/11/2007, -1/+18This is not genetic engineering. It is merely selective breeding.
From http://www.globalchange.com/geneticengin.htm
"Genetic engineering is the alteration of genetic code by artificial means, and is therefore different from traditional selective breeding.
Genetic engineering examples include taking the gene that programs poison in the tail of a scorpion, and combining it with a cabbage. These genetically modified cabbages kill caterpillers because they have learned to grow scorpion poison (insecticide) in their sap."
"Genetic engineering has been said to be no different than ancient breeding methods but this is untrue. For a start, breeding or cross-breeding, or in-breeding (for example to make pedigree dogs) all work by using the same species. In contrast genetic engineering allows us to combine fish, mouse, human and insect genes in the same person or animal."
This is bad news considering that saturated fats are essential for good health and the absorption of fat soluble vitamins.
From http://westonaprice.org/basicnutrition/pcnutrition.html
"Saturated fats play many important roles in the body. They provide integrity to the cell membrane, enhance the body's use of essential fatty acids, enhance the immune system, protect the liver and contribute to strong bones. Saturated fats do not cause heart disease. In fact, saturated fats are the preferred food for the heart. Your body makes saturated fats out of carbohydrates."
From http://www.mercola.com/2002/aug/17/saturated_fat1.htm
"Eskimos eat liberally of animal fats from fish and marine animals. On their native diet they are free of disease and exceptionally hardy.17 An extensive study of diet and disease patterns in China found that the region in which the populace consumes large amounts of whole milk had half the rate of heart disease as several districts in which only small amounts of animal products are consumed.18
Several Mediterranean societies have low rates of heart disease even though fat-including highly saturated fat from lamb, sausage and goat cheese-comprises up to 70% of their caloric intake. The inhabitants of Crete, for example, are remarkable for their good health and longevity.19 A study of Puerto Ricans revealed that, although they consume large amounts of animal fat, they have a very low incidence of colon and breast cancer.20
A study of the long-lived inhabitants of Soviet Georgia revealed that those who eat the most fatty meat live the longest.21 In Okinawa, where the average life span for women is 84 years-longer than in Japan-the inhabitants eat generous amounts of pork and seafood and do all their cooking in lard.22 None of these studies is mentioned by those urging restriction of saturated fats.
The relative good health of the Japanese, who have the longest life span of any nation in the world, is generally attributed to a lowfat diet. Although the Japanese eat few dairy fats, the notion that their diet is low in fat is a myth; rather, it contains moderate amounts of animal fats from eggs, pork, chicken, beef, seafood and organ meats. With their fondness for shellfish and fish broth, eaten on a daily basis, the Japanese probably consume more cholesterol than most Americans.
What they do not consume is a lot of vegetable oil, white flour or processed food (although they do eat white rice.) The life span of the Japanese has increased since World War II with an increase in animal fat and protein in the diet.23 Those who point to Japanese statistics to promote the lowfat diet fail to mention that the Swiss live almost as long on one of the fattiest diets in the world. Tied for third in the longevity stakes are Austria and Greece-both with high-fat diets.24
As a final example, let us consider the French. Anyone who has eaten his way across France has observed that the French diet is just loaded with saturated fats in the form of butter, eggs, cheese, cream, liver, meats and rich patés. Yet the French have a lower rate of coronary heart disease than many other western countries.
In the United States, 315 of every 100,000 middle-aged men die of heart attacks each year; in France the rate is 145 per 100,000. In the Gascony region, where goose and duck liver form a staple of the diet, this rate is a remarkably low 80 per 100,000.25 This phenomenon has recently gained international attention as the French Paradox. (The French do suffer from many degenerative diseases, however. They eat large amounts of sugar and white flour and in recent years have succumbed to the timesaving temptations of processed foods.) - flippinjeremy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+16I agree, now pass the Oreos!
- TVisdoG, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13@GuitarWizard:
He meant chocolate milk. Stop ruining our fun with facts. - Mongolai, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12Skim-milk cows, butter-cows, when will this madness ever end...
By the way, know what they call a butter-cow in Denmark? A Bull - esotericguy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9I'll care when the make a beer producing cow.
- rnwen2750, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9Most people who are working for agricultural advances will not care that the low fat milk could negatively impact the young because the calves will not be with their mothers long enough that it would be a problem. As long as the colustrum is still somewhat similar, there should be no major problems with this in a purely agricultural setting as far as the calves survival.
- silverchrysalis, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9how about bacon straight off the pig? already cured, sugared, and salted...
- venom8599, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Why bother? I thought that when they skimmed the fat from the milk from an ordinary cow, they used that for things like heavy cream...
- evodevo1, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5I'm sorry, but this is got to be the most stupid thing I've heard. Don't these people know that milk fat is of high commercial value? Think about it next time you go to the supermarket and buy a stick of butter or whipping cream. They are expensive because there is large demand for it.
- venom8599, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6Your business plan is crap. There isn't even a step that consists solely of "???" to stop your competitors from ripping off what should be trade secrets.
- OccultVariable, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5As a matter of public record, skim milk is gross.
- thomas, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5@GuitarWizard (#6926478)
I think he was referring to breeding a cow that can produce chocolate milk. Not a cow that can produce chocolate. - Error601, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Now THAT is cool especially for people that don't like fish.
- charlesray, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Skim milk is the worst. I guess if people want to get white water straight from a cow, this would be a great way to do so.
- AlphaEta, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Eh, this news is alright.
Once they breed a cow that can produce Scotch... then I'll be impressed! - vornan19, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3@aphaeta
They're already eating corn. My bets on Bourbon. - merreborn, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5"I think it defeats it's purpose. In the wild, low fat milk would necessarily be detrimental to the development of the calf."
More or less my thoughts. This trait is a genetic disadvantage in the wild if you take humans out of the equaiton, and would not be favored by natural selection.
Of course, once you figure humans into the system, in a bizarre way, this becomes a *favorable* trait -- by pandering to the needs of the species that domesticates and exploits them, these cows with the trait have actually made themselves "more fit" for their role as slave to humans.
I have to wonder what evolutionary biologists would have to say on this. I suppose, in the end, humans have been doing this sort of genetic engineering for centuries (e.g. the beefsteak tomato). - AlphaEta, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3This is NOT genetic engineering!
"Genetic engineering, recombinant DNA technology, genetic modification (GM) and gene splicing are terms that are applied to the manipulation of genes, generally implying that the process is outside the organism's natural reproductive process."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_engineering - Buddhist, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2It's like that episode of the Simpsons where Homer is in the Garden of Eden, and he takes the strips of bacon right off the belly of the pig.
Mmm, bacon... http://tinyurl.com/2ypf5z *drool* - Markpdotcom, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Disco cows?
- vornan19, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2'So I'm guessin this wouldn't make for a good steak then?'
Nah
They might checkout as Steak'ems though. - Solis, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Where's the buried as "disgusting" option?
- schrutefan, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3What a waste of money... I can make skim milk out of whole milk without spending a dime. Just add water.
- heero101086, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Next thing......
Cream direct from Cow...
Half and Half??
Cheese direct... ouch for the cow... - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+31. Get this cow to climb on vibrating platform
2. Sell milkshakes
3. Profit!!!!!! - Wasson101, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Exactly. When you operate a dairy farm the creamery pays you more based on the butterfat % of the milk. The higher the fat content is, the more dairy byproducts they can make from it which means it is more valuable. I don't know any sensible dairy farmers that would think this is a good idea as the fat content of the milk is one of its most important attributes.
- bingo000, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Any flavored milk to come?
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2I thought that the String Cheese Incident was breaking up. Why do they care about skim milk? Their hula-hooping fans probably only drink soy milk, anyway.
- chumpsucker, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Milk producers are paid based on the fat content of milk. In general, the more fat, the more per 100 lbs a farmer will be paid. Why this is heralded as a boon to the dairy industry is a mystery to me...
They should be trying to *increase* milk fat not decrease... - eunichs, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2The way they are marketing this on the New Zealand news is toward people who would like to buy "naturally low fat milk". If you can call a genetic anomally any more natural than just removing the fat afterward... seems a stupid convaluted process which has no real advantages and has one big disadvantage - the fat removed from normal milk is used in thousands of food related by-products.
- bgii2000, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2I proudly drink whole milk.
- Error601, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1But why? The fat parts are just as marketable as the protein and carbohydrate parts. We need something to spread on toast.
- TrainingName, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Cow h4x
- daridave, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Oh and what's even more funny is that you just KNOW they'll simply slam a "naturally low-fat" kind of banner on the freakin carton and sell it for double the price.
Pathetic. - vornan19, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1@picciano
"Next, chocolate?'
No, chocolate SHAKE! - HanSolo69, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1i'll be impressed when the milk comes out steamed with espresso.
- Swisstec, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0It's just water that's been run through a cow
- fraglessone, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Any chance of making a cow that produces Chocolate 2% Milk? I'll have my wallet in-hand while I wait for a response.
- linkthewarrior, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Now if we could just get chickens to lay omelets instead of eggs...
- silverchrysalis, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1but it does makes the frothiest foam for those expensive little coffee things we all like
- BigCalhoun, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1So I'm guessin this wouldn't make for a good steak then?
- fatpads, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0If the chickens are properly elevated above a frying pan.....
Of course that does mean rather a lot of shell - cien750hp, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1something interesting that was said was they were working on using this for whole milk too.
just making whole milk that had only good fats in it, not bad.
that would be a great thing for me, because i prefer the taste of whole milk over the 1% i drink because theres so much fat in whole. - NoTiG, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1The low fat health craze flies in direct contrast to what thousands of years of experience has taught different cultures around the world. Low fat = bad.
as infertility rates Skyrocket, and the obesity epidemic surges, people seem to still think that lower fat is better. On the contrary you need the fat. You need adequate fat when you eat protein. Not only that but it helps to control your insulin levels, satisfies you... and is just better.
http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/03/14/healthscience/snvital.php - skyfire1, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1I hope the scientists that made this idea go out of business. Skim milk(or should I say skin milk) is disgusting.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1But Venom, my trade secret is, this is a Russian cow, and it drinks vodka. So the milkshakes are alcoholic. And there you have the key '????' step. Oh, and the brand of vodka is highly classified.
- fatpads, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0God, I haven't had whole milk in ages. It's ***** awesome...*goes to shop*
- LemBer, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0I love that they're being called "rogue" cows, and that one of the rogue cows is named "Marge."
- esotericguy, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2ouch, chocolate being squuezed through udders?
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