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- Electric_Sheep, on 10/11/2007, -7/+213Noooo!! You're not my real Solar system!! I hate you!
- random12345, on 11/16/2008, -2/+112First we disowned Pluto, and now we find out we're adopted?
- random12345, on 11/16/2008, -2/+93Maury: "The results are in...Milky Way- You are NOT the father!"
- volanin, on 10/11/2007, -21/+107From the article:
"It has been postulated that this is the real reason for both global warming since higher energy levels of the Milky Way are almost certain to cause our Sun to burn hotter and emit higher energies. Indeed, temperatures have been seen to rise on virtually all the planets in our system. This seems quite apart from any local phenomenon like greenhouse gases etc."
Oh, come on.
This process is going on for MILLIONS of years now.
And it's the real reason for the LAST CENTURY global warming?
Very nice galaxy gobbling theory, but this last paragraph killed the article for me... - AstralAutomaton, on 10/11/2007, -1/+82Well that may be true but as long as you are gravitationally bound to me you are going to live by my rules. Now go to your room.
- moosepile, on 10/11/2007, -18/+85What's truly amazing is how easy that is to believe. Is it time for an IM IN UR SPASE EATIN UR GALAKSY?
Preface: I'm not an environmentalist in any active form, so please don't consider this some of the same ***** that BOTH sides of the warming debate espout...
...however, I do question the fact that this would have a major role in our climate situation. Our world is warming on a scale that is just not, imho, on a scale with being caused by an intergalactic event. Our warming is likely a mix of humans and natural phenomena, with MAYBE a smidgeon of galaxy-sex. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -6/+72this is pretty neat. I'd love to see what happens, but chances are I won't live nearly long enough.
damn time.... - kizzbizz, on 10/11/2007, -5/+51What an interesting article! Especially the sister article about how the world is going to end in 2012: http://viewzone.com/endtime.html
"im in ur scienz, teachin ur kidz flawed theories that are based on several blogs without any strong, definitive sources" - Glynth, on 10/11/2007, -6/+48Sorry, but you're incorrect. Just recently I saw something about this on the History channel or Discovery, in fact. The Mayan calendar is by FAR more accurate than our current calendar. It requires far fewer adjustments, like leap years and such silliness.
- Jugalator, on 10/11/2007, -3/+45I wish there was a more authorative source than that article that ends with "Readers may also be interested in Doomsday: The Mayan Prophecy". :-/ I mean, have NASA or ESA been able to confirm this? Which are the scientists the article is actually citing? Is it an independent team on a university that have quite unsupported ideas, or is this a widely supported theory?
I just have a hard time getting a grasp of the importance of this story. Because if what they're saying seem to hold water among more established (?) scientists, this would be some pretty big news. It also seem to try cover so many aspects at once -- the "origin" part, the greenhouse part, and the Mayan calender. Hmm... - CraigCarlyle, on 10/11/2007, -1/+42Have you ever noticed that whenever something like this is reported, the source is always "Scientists"
Like, do all scientists meet and discuss it before we know? - desistere, on 10/11/2007, -7/+43I thought everyone knew that we were put here by the dictator of the Galactic Confederacy Xenu.
- deadowl, on 10/11/2007, -29/+62Have you ever wondered whether scientists get paid by textbook companies? There really ought to be price caps on school textbooks (yes, please include my really expensive college textbooks), otherwise they'll never be able to keep up.
- knobtwiddler, on 10/11/2007, -2/+35i call *****
this is quite possibly the most poorly-written "scientific" article i've ever read. - mr2master, on 10/11/2007, -3/+34"the abrupt large-scale growth of Uranus"
- eridius, on 10/11/2007, -24/+54Did anybody notice how at the end of this article, it claimed the Mayan calendar is "the most accurate on the planet"? That seems pretty fishy. I'm pretty sure our own calendars are more accurate than the Mayan calendars. And an error this elementary casts doubt on the rest of the article.
I want to see some sort of confirmation in a well-known science magazine/website before I believe this article. - Lnomis, on 10/11/2007, -1/+30I think there's actually quite a lot of rubbish in this article. I don't know whether the "galaxies merging" section of it is widely accepted, but it's facinating anyway. However, the second half of the article stinks of pseudo-science.
It looks as if the article is trying to use the "merging galaxies" theory to write off global warming.
From the article:
"The "marriage" of our birth galaxy with our new adopted Milky Way galaxy is causing energy shifts that are obvious just about everywhere. Here are some changes being watched by scientists:
A first stage atmosphere generation on the Moon, where a growing natrium atmosphere is detected that reaches 9,000 km in height."
The other points look dubious, but this is definitely wrong. Natrium is another word for Sodium, which is a gas at 883 degrees celsius, a hell of a lot hotter than the surface of the moon. Not only that, but the moon simply does not have enough mass to hold onto an atmosphere.
"We have now been "adopted" by a new system, a stronger and more powerful system, and we can expect changes on almost every level of energy."
This is not science. - AJ4289, on 10/11/2007, -2/+30For anyone questioning the legitimacy of the claim, the true source can be located here: http://astsun.astro.virginia.edu/~mfs4n/sgr/
By the way, the bit at the end about global warming is suspiciously missing from this version. Buried as inaccurate and spam and just plain stupid. Someone submit this page instead. - 1b2a, on 10/11/2007, -2/+29It's true the Mayan calendar really is the most accurate. It's just much more difficult to decipher for the common man which is a good reason for your disbelief and why we choose not to use it.
- shadowmoose, on 10/11/2007, -0/+25After all said and done at the end of one of our years we have a 1/4 of a day left over, thats why every 4 years we add a new day. The Maya don't roll that way.
- RNEMESiS42, on 10/11/2007, -2/+26Mayan calendars ARE very accurate, it's not BS. Everything down from star and planet orbits, to how long a year on Earth really is. I read about it in books when I was younger, and saw some programs on the National Geographic or History Channel. Here are some links I pulled up quickly off of Google:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_calendar
http://webexhibits.org/calendars/calendar-mayan.html
http://www.civilization.ca/civil/maya/mmc06eng.html
http://www.diagnosis2012.co.uk/cjc.htm - crunkykd, on 10/11/2007, -6/+27All Your Galaxy Are Belong To Us!
- Hangender, on 10/11/2007, -0/+20Sagittarius Dwarf sounds way cool than the wussy and fruity "Millky way"
- blacklilyninja, on 10/11/2007, -1/+21i didnt want to read it for fear of ending up in the prince of bel air song again.
- zephc, on 10/11/2007, -3/+22The article is claiming things and drawing conclusions that scientists are not.
- BlueInGreen, on 10/11/2007, -0/+18"The mystery of why the Milky Way has always been sideways in the night sky has never been answered -- until now"
Right, 'cause if the Milky Way were our true galaxy, the Earth's axis of rotation would be perfectly aligned with that of the galaxy's arms. Uhhh... - Glynth, on 10/11/2007, -9/+26I don't want to get into it here, but ALL the planets in our solar system are warming. Earth isn't warming a huge amount faster than the others (if faster or more at all), either. Just something to think about. (Didn't digg you down because you seem a reasonable sort. Digging down only because you disagree with someone who is trying to be honest and thoughtful is petty.)
- jerrysizzler, on 10/11/2007, -1/+17what the hell does this have to do with the article? did you just look at the pictures and move on to the ads?
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -3/+19Yeah, it does make a difference when you're taking 4-5 courses per semester, and some of those require multiple textbooks, solutions manuals, lab kits, etc.
Textbooks are way more expensive than your "wood, mylar, vellum, felt tip pens, tape etc". We're not in arts & crafts, and may actually have to drop some serious change for our education. - p51d007, on 10/11/2007, -1/+16My god........it's full of stars!
- EXreaction, on 10/11/2007, -1/+15It is some pretty damned interesting information. No, you won't live that long...it said 1 revolution of our galaxy to go around the milky way takes 240 million years, it will be billions of years before our solar system is destroyed by the milky way.
Really sends the message home about how slow time moves in the expanse of time with our universe, how short our life is, and how little we know. If it is true, the life on our planet could have started around the same time that our galaxies started to interact.
Its hard to comprehend time once you get past a few decades, let alone billions of years, and space once you go beyond a few thousand miles, let alone thousands or millions of light years.
Oh how insignificant we are in this universe. - scut, on 10/11/2007, -0/+13What do we really know about the author of the story? I tried to find out more about him, and found that he is an independent researcher and not affiliated with any of the universities that did these studies. It appears he has made these interpretations himself based on their data. His ideas can be construed as theories at this point, but I've not seen any scientific agreement on his article. Here is a link to another discussion about this story... http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?p=1015747
I agree that this is all very interesting. We'll have to see what shakes out after serious scientific debate and discovery. - Idgit, on 10/11/2007, -8/+21Why can't news sites report interesting stories like this instead of the garbage they usually report? Well i guess thats one of the reasons i keep coming back to Digg.
- novask, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13Yes, calculus and history have made some real breakthroughs in the past couple of years. $150-$200 per book was well worth it.
- DJDark, on 10/11/2007, -2/+14Uhh Sol is our real Sun, so yes this IS our real Solar System, just not our real Galaxy :/
... That made sense right? - Whaines, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13I'm retaking a math course for a better grade at my school and in two terms they've changed math books for the same exact course at the same school...
Good thing I bought the new $160 math book because math changes ever so quickly! - binorgog, on 08/07/2008, -3/+15Someone call Kirk Cameron with this urgent update
- neko, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11Everyone should just express their dates in terms of the number of seconds elapsed since 00:00:00 on January 1, 1970. There, I fixed it.
- 1b2a, on 10/11/2007, -6/+16I, for one, welcome our new Sagittarian... oh wait.
- zephc, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10@Glynth: Ok, fine, take your flakey, fishy science and have fun with it. http://viewzone.com is filled with pseudoscience (try looking at the front page) and the validity of anything there should be questioned, not accepted outright.
- SEN5241, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10This story lost me when they linked to the Mayan Doomsday Prophesy. What a load of nonsense.
- zeejay, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9I prefer the old chemistry books, with labs that show you how to make asbestos, DDT, PVC, and the ever-popular "fun with mercury."
- Drkboarder, on 10/11/2007, -3/+11Dwarf galaxies must be known for their oil...
- Carsonauto, on 10/11/2007, -15/+22These people are scientists. They have PHD's and are respected. You are known to your internet buddies as "Volanin".
- alappat1, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7TO ALL the haters above, the reason we don't consider this article genuine, is that they are opinions of people who have no proffessional expertise in the said fields, making wild claims with no background evidence (for example- the global warming connection) . I am an electrical engineer who is going to do aerospace engineering as my masters/ phd. If you are a true scientist/ a person who isn't gullible enough to fall for the pseudoscientific crap coming out of that site, you will ask the the following questions...
1. where is your data that backs up all you claims?
2. does your data conflict with current evidence collected by other scientists, if so how do you explain the discrepancy (for your new theory must match ALL the facts collected)? in order to get this answered i would either read their papers (assuming i have the necessary backrgound), or ask that they be published for peer review by other 3rd party experts in the field who will verify their answers (peer review is the only way to make sure crackheads don't make stupid claims)
if you don't do that, then how do you know the author isn't ***** you hmm? he could be refering some obscure theory that was disproved years ago but you would think he was correct. Its like if i claimed as an electrical engineer who dabbled in physics, i created antigravity using superconducting elctromagnets, and provided the explanation using electro-gravitics (something if i remember right that the physics community threw out in the 50's due to the fact it never made correct predictions on experiments). A normal person who is not familiar with the theories involved , wouldn't know what the hell i was talking about and has no right to say whether i am right or wrong....
and neither do you haters with regards to this site- personally any refernce to mayan doomsdays and finding the bones of jesus makes this site a joke - bIuebonics, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7Glynth, the article loses all credibility once you apply some criticism to it and then go to the front page of that site and see what other subjects they cover. as kick ass as this would be, i'll believe it when i read it on physorg or some other science site.
- j4200, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6those clocks of ours are all based on atomic vibrations of molecules. Not to mention the current calander needs all sorts of catch up days. a leap year is the most common one. the mayan's may all be gone now, but their calander system they had is still keeping an accurate account of time without anything but their original measurements of all the stars.
- romanxau, on 10/11/2007, -2/+8Give it a week, they'll say we came through the Stargate.
- LaueOfficer, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7Something changes in science == textbooks change == profit!!!!!
- barimann, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7Take this article with a grain of salt. Most of it was 'borrowed' from the press release from university of Virginia. Theres a bunch of end of the world and Atlantis stuff up there too.
Its an interesting conclusion he draws about our solar system actually belonging to another galaxy getting consumed by the milky way. I wonder if theres any science out there to support it. -
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