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- Kinsbane, on 07/07/2009, -1/+37It's her study's fault for acting so damn sexy.
- jonathantneal, on 07/07/2009, -3/+21So, Frankenstein's monster is still a rapist, right?
- caseycoold, on 07/07/2009, -0/+16*****...I wonder how many times I read an article and thought the research proved it...that's lame. Do we have to do background checks every time we read what we think is news?
- josephbloseph, on 07/07/2009, -1/+15Yes. Yes you do. If you want to read science, read journals, and keep an eye out for letters to the editor in the next edition, to see if anybody disputes previous findings.
- walkermalling, on 07/07/2009, -0/+13I'm surprised most of these comments are about the spurious claim that flashy women are more likely to be raped.
The actual content of the article is about how an MSc student's research was prematurely reported & willfully misconstrued (sexed up, if you will) by journalists at the Telegraph.
Perhaps someone should do their master's research about how headlines act as shills rather than cynosures,--because clearly most of you didn't read the article, but were merely eager to sound off on the meme suggested in the title. - inactive, on 07/07/2009, -2/+12I think we know what must be done with the erroneous authors of this story.
- snagglefoof, on 07/07/2009, -2/+12Somehow I get the feeling you have no idea what you're talking about.
- bombula, on 07/07/2009, -5/+14RTFS. The science is about _probability_, not about causes or consequences.
It doesn't say it's a woman's fault for dressing sexily. It doesn't say it's not a man's fault for commiting rape.
If I stand in front of a Church screaming through a bullhorn about the glories of sodomy, I have a much higher _probability_ of getting my ass kicked. Was I 'asking' to get assaulted? No, this country protects free speech. Will the people who beat me up still go to jail for assault. Yup. My words are no excuse. Same is true the other way around, like when Churchfolks picketed Matthew Shepherd's funeral chanting "God hates fags". - DarthVolta, on 07/07/2009, -1/+7What's sad is the amount of people commenting here who didn't read the article, saying, "durr obvious!!1"
It makes me worried that people can so easily think the understand a very complex subject.. - josephbloseph, on 07/07/2009, -2/+8RTFA; this article is about how the story originally reported by the Telegraph was wrong.
- zombiecarlin, on 07/07/2009, -0/+5"one South African is raped every 26 seconds."
Holy ***** she must be exhausted. - rocknog, on 07/07/2009, -0/+5Well, and the probability didn't even vary in a statistically significant way anyway, so there you go.
- caseycoold, on 07/07/2009, -0/+5Why?
- dty2010, on 07/07/2009, -1/+5B1665r was obviously referring to his own comment.
- DarthVolta, on 07/07/2009, -0/+4Yes, it's English. Are you sure you speak it?
- inactive, on 07/07/2009, -1/+4in other news, RTFA.
- Jaq524, on 07/07/2009, -1/+3This is mostly an article on how
The Guardian > ***** > The Telegraph - nepidae, on 07/07/2009, -0/+2In south africa it probably isn't mostly "regret rape" though.
- chronopublish, on 07/07/2009, -0/+2Have you ever noticed that every time a mainstream article reports on a subject that you know a lot about, you almost always find major errors?
Nothing is worth much unless you fact check it yourself. Beware of the opinions you form casually reading articles. - inactive, on 07/07/2009, -0/+2there's an acronym that perfectly expresses this sentiment...
- gingerboy, on 07/07/2009, -0/+2You shoud do anyway - why believe it just because its printed, especially when its something quite complicated and easy to exadgerate!
- inactive, on 07/07/2009, -2/+3the ***** is up with the title, is that even english?
- MWeather, on 07/07/2009, -2/+3And?
- inactive, on 07/07/2009, -0/+1Ah, in that case, you don't have a very good imagination. There are all sorts of ways to rape someone!
- graemee, on 07/08/2009, -0/+1No, he's a puss. The bride of wears the pants.
"Well I came into a scolding wife a few short years ago
And ever since I lead a life of misery and woe
My wife she is a tyrant around the inn
Ah I'd sell her to the devil for a glass or two of gin" - walkermalling, on 07/07/2009, -1/+2You must have inside sources, because nothing even approximating that assertion was made in the article. Did you miss the part where Shaw freely asserted that self-reporting is an inherently suspect method of gathering data, but that it was being taken into consideration in the study itself? Regarding the unanalyzed finding that "some" men said they would pursue flashy women further, Shaw said that the finding was "not [statistically] significant, which is why we're not reporting it in our main analysis."
So, again, unless you have a different source... Between journalists shilling and readers skimming, what sort of public sphere of discourse are we creating here? - inactive, on 07/07/2009, -0/+1Do you even know how sex works? You don't have to be naked.
- B1665r, on 07/07/2009, -1/+2The MSc student was describing casual sexual encounters and subsequent regret as rape. The original research paper totally had it coming.
- rocknog, on 07/07/2009, -3/+4Oh boy, scientific illiteracy strikes again! Dear God, I ***** loathe and despise journalists who write science articles.
- inactive, on 07/07/2009, -1/+1go back to /b/, virginfag
- inactive, on 07/07/2009, -1/+1B1665r was raped
- lia1878, on 07/07/2009, -1/+1Ever hear of Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen? Hence: PR and Prejudice.
- Shogun213, on 07/07/2009, -4/+4Not from my experience.
- howclever, on 07/07/2009, -2/+2What an atrocious study... its seems that the author sees sex as a line, with meeting for a drink on one end, sex in the middle, and rape on the far end of the line.
- josephbloseph, on 07/09/2009, -0/+0The original article did *not* find that provocatively dressed women were at any higher of a risk. Your statement is most easily taken as mocking the quoted headline for stating the obvious. Based on this premise, I suggest you read the article to find that not only does the headline not state the obvious, but actually contradicts the findings of the research it supposedly represents.
- BottledViolence, on 07/07/2009, -3/+2Promiscuous men were willing to go farther than inexperienced men in attempts to get laid? Thank you, science.
- B1665r, on 07/08/2009, -2/+1Actually, no amount of fudging the numbers would correct her flawed research. She fails at slutty women who go to night clubs, wear sexy clothes, drink, flirt and invite men back to her place type encounters as rape... Because apparently there is some abundance of women who do that who later change their mind about having intercourse??? Ummmm no. Even if that did happen with ~any~ frequency (and it doesn't) it still doesn't address the fact that she is imposing her definition of rape on these women.
Grow up and stop being absurd. This research has as much basis in reality as my future research project on male victims of Sucubi and Siren attacks...
And this research deserves to be lampooned just as much as mine would be. - rootsm3, on 07/07/2009, -3/+2Truer words never spoken. :/
- walkermalling, on 07/08/2009, -1/+0You still haven't read the article.
- B1665r, on 07/07/2009, -3/+1Lets make an analogy.
Because the original research paper deserved to be raped by the telegraph article. It is as if the the original research paper got drunk while wearing scantily clad clothing at a night club while flirting with the biggest douche bag she could find. The original RP then proceeds to invite the telegraph article home and into her house, and takes off all her clothing gets into bed, makes the telegraph erect. Then the Original RP says things are moving to fast, and that she is not ready yet. However, not one of the men in the study say they continue, the original research paper says this supports the idea that all men are rapists.
Holy ***** *****. Ladies, if you don't want to be raped, keep your legs together and and penises out of your vagina. If you let things get that far, you were asking for it (the sex, not rape, because that situation described by the research is consensual sex... not rape)
The original research absolutely deserved to be taken out of context by the telegraph, because the original research is totally absurd.
Therefore it merits no correction on digg. - mcphilip, on 07/07/2009, -6/+0Sweet, the South African stats must also be misleading then. Now I can stop caring.
"Rape statistics from South Africa are so shocking as to be almost unbelievable - women's rights activists say one South African is raped every 26 seconds."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/1703595.stm - MWeather, on 07/07/2009, -14/+4In other news, food that looks appetising is more likely to be eaten!
- InfectedTuna, on 07/07/2009, -10/+0..... I feel dumber .....
- Nerotique, on 07/07/2009, -20/+10In other news, fire is hot, dogs like meat, and yes... water is still wet.
- B1665r, on 07/07/2009, -20/+1OMG this does not belong on digg. please bury.
- Nainsell, on 07/07/2009, -31/+0I would imagine that most women who are raped are barely clothed. Because it needs to be off to be raped.
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