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- emeacham, on 10/12/2007, -9/+43but did they find another crystal skull? (j/k)
- pype, on 10/12/2007, -8/+33The real shocker was that the pyramid contained the corpses of thousands of undocumented American workers.
- wtfdan, on 10/12/2007, -3/+22Alien vs. Predator, anyone?
- wolfzero, on 10/12/2007, -3/+22Suggested headline change just for confusing the masses:
"Jesus finds 1500 Year Old Pyramid On Crucifixion Site"
The archaeologist was named Jesus (Dirty?) Sanchez, in case you didn't read TFA.
Maybe we can spin this and sell it to Weekly World News for a few grand. - Arramol, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18The Spanish "Jesus" is equivalent to the same name in English. The pronunciation is different since it's a different language, but the meaning is the same. The name "Jesus" that we're familiar with isn't the true Biblical name, but rather an English version of the Greek "Iesou" (Yeh-soo), which comes from the Hebrew Yeshua, which can be translated as either Jesus or Joshua.
- mizidymizark, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17BGFeltenink,
A/S/L? - SeanCK, on 10/12/2007, -5/+20Wrong. "The site overlooks a vast suburban neighborhood, considered one of Mexico City's poorest and most dangerous."
- sycsix, on 10/12/2007, -6/+21My first thought too.
Deep within the heart of this pyramid is a crappy movie just waiting to be unleashed on the world. - awa1ct, on 10/12/2007, -7/+18*humms stargate theme*
- Venganza, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11I visited several areas of interest when I was in Mexico, including Teotihuacan and its sites. It truly is a wonderful site seeing these pyramids that are over one or two thousand years old. Considering some areas are hotspots for earthquakes, volcanos, and floods, it is amazing such sites still exist.
People forget that when the Spaniards came, they not only destroyed the populous but also these glorious pyramids. - sithvicious, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13please stop with the political correctness, and please RTFA. they are not getting kicked out of their land.
- compu73rg33k, on 10/12/2007, -8/+17Gory reenactment? I'm wondering whether they actually crucify somebody each year!
- sithvicious, on 10/12/2007, -6/+15Why? It doesnt change the fact that the pyramid is there, nor does it diminish the importance of this discovery. You are not a little kid anymore, I think its time to upgrade from picture books to big boy books.
- XSforMe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9"They carefully did it though, under a doctors supervision. It was some Latin country"
This is done in the Philippines; here in Mexico they tie them up by the arms and leave them to roast under the sun for a couple of hours. Many require dehydration treatment afterward, but I never heard before of a death.
Personally I think this practice is an abomination, but there are many here who think otherwise. As long as the person crucified is doing it by his own free will, I see no harm. Gorier and dumber things are done by people in exchange for more vainal things (jackass anyone?) - jbond03, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7they all get jobs digging the pyramid. and earn revenue from tourism.
- geoboy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10It's absolutely amazing what can be lost in the translation of the bible from language to language. It's a good thing nobody takes it literally.
- slmcdee, on 10/12/2007, -7/+13Bring back Daniel's Grandpa?
- xocomil, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I was in the Guatemalan highlands for "Semana Santa", as it is called, a couple of years ago. Some places merely raise effigies of the two thieves and Christ during the day followed by processions (large groups of people carrying heavy platforms with saints depicted on the top). This is the kind of thing you see in Antigua (I highly recommend Semana Santa in Antigua if you are brave enough to go to Guatemala :)). However, the weirdest thing I saw was in a small village near Solola. There, devout worshipers would pay to be hoisted up on the cross. Most would merely be tied to the cross, but one person had his hands and feet tied and then they nailed his palms to the cross. It was the most disgusting thing I have ever seen. I left after that and felt really weird for the rest of the day. I'm not sure how the Romans could stand such a public spectacle. This guy I'm sure wasn't up there for very long, but it was horrible to hear him scream when the hammer hit the nail (which was nowhere near the size of the nails the Romans used in crucifixions). I'm not really surprised if the same thing happens in other places in Latin America.
- BGFeltenink, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Some people are under the impression that Digg is an IM service.
- dracula7, on 10/12/2007, -11/+17"But half the pyramid has been destroyed as the hill has been used for decades every Easter for a gory re-enactment of the crucifixion of Christ."
cute - djbelieve, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8So far the majority of the comments on this article have been useless and inane. Racist babble and action-movie references. Wow.
It seems that the people leaving the racist comments have never been to Mexico and are fairly clueless. I'm glad someone called them out. I'm originally from the United States, but currently live in Mexico and it's a real drag to have this kind stuff go on.
I think Digg users can do better than this. - Chongo, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11I saw some documentary on TLC where they actually DID nail someone to the cross (only for like 15 mins or so). They carefully did it though, under a doctors supervision. It was some Latin country
- MoFoKeR, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6jesus didnt speak english wrong continent
- forger, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6What will happen to the poor neighbourhood?
- gdog05, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5This pyramid reminds me more of "From Dusk 'Til Dawn" than AVP. I wonder if the Titty Twister is on top.
- dclowd9901, on 10/12/2007, -14/+19It's mexico. Almost everyone's poor.
- redgren, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8'biblical pronunciation of jesus'
hahahahah - love it.
Is that like the 'biblical pronunciation' of Mary and Joseph?
"English was good enough for Jesus, so it's good enough for me"... - XSforMe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Umm... you can discover pieces of pottery, maybe some stones. But a pyramid the size of a 10 story building? This is definetly not a daily discovery.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11Um, most people in Mexico are poor. Their 3rd largest source of income comes from illegals in the US sending money back to Mexico.
And what is so racist about wanting to deport people who are in the US illegally? - mistshadow2k4, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Watch "From Dusk Til Dawn" if you're 17 or over. Wait until the very end of the movie and you'll see why I brought this up.
AvP? That pyramid was in the Arctic, wasn't it? (I thought that part was kind of dumb, since the previous movies made it clear that the Predators were heat-lovers and only came to Earth during the hottest years in hot areas.) - icoms, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10useless without pics:(
- XSforMe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"they not only destroyed the populous but also these glorious pyramids."
They did not actually destroyed them, just allowed and encouraged the vegetation to cover them.
The Teotihuacan pyramids (and apparently this one) were just too massive to be destroyed with the technology Spaniards had. Ironically if there was any damage in the Teotihuacan pyramid, it was probably done by the "archaeologist" who was commissioned to dig them up at the end of the XIX century. The A$$HOL3 used TNT during the dig-out; apparently he was under a very tight schedule. He did manage to complete the dig-out in time, but only after heavy reconstruction and lots of guesswork on how the site originally was.
Hopefully (and most probably), this pyramid will be treated differently than the ones in Teotihuacan. - Agnomonus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I don't think people forget this at all. The populace was not so much destroyed as it was enslaved. The culture was replaced by the culture of the winners of that contest (in this case the Spaniards), but that is usually the case in ALL human conflicts. I mean, who was there before the Aztecs? Why didn't the Aztecs preserve the culture of those peoples it dominated? As far as the pyramids - they obviously were not all destroyed since there are examples such as this one which survives. I remark that the Easter celebrations observed on this "hill" are described as "gory" - the Aztec rituals conducted at the ancient pyramid were probably much "gorier", unless human sacrifice is something you're really into.
- Dufresne, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Buried under two feet of ground? How could it support itself?
- sonicdevo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Yea, allowing yourself to be crucified in order to honor your God seems kinda off to me. But then again, to each his own... some of the church fathers asked to be crucified upside down when they were condemned to death. They felt that they weren't worthy to die in the same way as Jesus.
And yea, it is kinda wierd to think that the Romans would use such a barbaric method of execution so prolifically, but I suppose that each era/culture has different standards. But at the same time, this explains why crucifixion was only used to execute people that weren't Roman citizens. It was illegal to put a Roman citizen to death in that way. - WaterDragon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"After the Spanish conquest, conquistadors and envoys of the church superimposed their beliefs on indigenous life.
Churches were built atop ancient shrines and pyramids in sites around Mexico, including Chalma and Cholula near Mexico City. The Mexican capital's massive cathedral was built from stone from pyramids flattened by the Spaniards. ""
BASTARDS! - Cozmcphish, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Did they also find vampires in a bar run by Cheech Marin as well?
- Waredgo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Picture??
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/05/AR2006040501857.html - XSforMe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The temple was discovered years ago. It was called the "Templo Mayor"...
Nope, the Templo Mayor is located in Mexico City's downtown. This pyramid is in the southeastern part of the city. The Templo Mayor is only a couple stories high. If this pyramid is nearly as tall as the Teotihuacan's Moon pyramid, it will dwarf the Templo Mayor.
However, you are right about it being discovered years ago, according to this Mexican newspaper:
http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/340901.html
the dig out began 5 years ago, it seems that it is only until know that the authorities have officially disclosed it to the press. - Stillbored, on 10/12/2007, -6/+9Jesus "Dirty" Sanchez was interviewed...
...that's the best damn name...ever. - 1337d00d, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2christian re enactments on top of pagan ceremonial ground,,, hrrrmmmm
- ViceVirtue, on 10/12/2007, -10/+12It just wouldn't be gore unless they really did nail someone to a stake...
Ahh the old days! We had *real* brutality then, modern thugs and persecutors have no idea!
The Romans, now *they* knew how it was done, the crown of thorns, the mocking and the spitting! - Justice101, on 10/12/2007, -6/+8Where are the Furlings?!?
- wolfzero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'm from California and thus I'm familar with all common names of people born in Mexico... Jose (one of my best friends, actually), Jesus, etc. I'm not a n00b.
- jcall, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Google a bit more. :) I just visited Mexico City. Templo Mayor isn't exactly in a low income neighborhood. It's right next to the Zocalo, just off the national plaza. I don't think that the article is referring to Templo Mayor at all, other than the following snippet, which doesn't even mention it:
"Mexico's Catholic patroness, the Virgin of Guadalupe, appeared to the faithful only a few years after the 1521 Spanish conquest, on a hillside where Aztecs worshipped Tonantzin, their mother of the gods.
Mexico City's cathedral is built atop the remains of an Aztec temple, as are countless other churches in Mexico, partly as an attempt to forcibly supplant pre-Hispanic religions."
From what the museum around Templo Mayor says, there was a fairly large complex which is now mostly covered by the cathedral. Templo Mayor was a part of that complex, but not part of the article. - elViesca, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6US economy is also supported by Mexican workers (illegal or not). Deporting all Mexicans it's definitely not the solution to the immigration problem, that would affect Mexican AND US economy as well.
If you care, read this: http://www.ailf.org/ipc/ipf0902.asp
And I must say that racist comments only reflects the poor education of its author. - Waredgo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4The above is not a very exciting pic, but there are a lot more of the surrounding pyramids. Apparently, this "discovery" is actually not very new - archeologists have known about it for years. I think that the upcoming Easter celebrations which make use of the site have brought this into light.
- johndi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I read an article in the Feb 2006 Discover magazine, but you need a subscription for the online version. This is the closest link I could find that is free. The mag article is better it pretty much destroys the smallpox theory. That does nothing to excuse what colonial Spain did to Latin America, and just about every other place they colonized and looted leaving them in poverty to this day. The bad side is this thing may be set up for another epidemic.
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/EID/vol8no4/01-0175.htm - EricAnderton, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Wanted for questioning: http://www.zakas.org/alien-vs-predator-comic%20con%202004%20zakas%201%20lrg.jpg
- Agret, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2http://www.digg.com/science/Huge_Pyramid_Found_Under_Mexico_City#c1392642
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