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- inactive, on 09/08/2008, -2/+12II hope they figure it all out before two religions start Armageddon against each other.
- Infidelephant, on 09/08/2008, -0/+6Is the dumbing down of our educational system where mislead Creationists fight to have their ridiculous RELIGIOUS dogma given equal time to hard science based on overwhelming evidence harmless?
Is the church, in it's pious, misdirected attempt at sexual repression that disallows condom use in Africa (and other places) thus leading to an ongoing genocide made possible through the epidemic of AIDS harmless?
I could go on and on and on - but I have already butchered the English language enough - but a point (or two) has been made. - AaronSTL, on 09/08/2008, -0/+5Actually that question has already been asked. Because of the nature of the experiment and the expectation that the Higgs will be found, if it's not found the outcome will be as interesting as if it were. Either way we learn something.
- Splicernyc, on 09/08/2008, -2/+7I'm often afraid for the future of science when silly people with ridiculous ideas make up fantastical rumors about Earth-swallowing micro black holes or some such garbage. One of these days, some saboteur will do something horrific in the name of a non-existent god because their myths are threatened by the reality explored by science.
- oldhick, on 09/08/2008, -0/+3Religious folk aren't the ones freaking out, its other (less educated) scientists.
- oldhick, on 09/08/2008, -1/+3In what Bible does it say that?
- Infidelephant, on 09/08/2008, -0/+2Buried as inaccurate - there are no women at CERN!!!
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I kid - I kid! - norrin, on 09/08/2008, -3/+5For me there's no mixing science and faith. Science is the pursuit of knowledge, and faith is the pursuit of purpose. The two are not inter-related. Scientifically the only difference between an atheist and a theist concerns the origin of everything. A theist says it all began by design, and an atheist says it was all random. We make inferences on design every day. If while walking through the forest, you see a uniformly stacked pile of sticks next to a dead tree, you don't think to yourself, "Wow, the wind must have blown those sticks out of that tree and they landed like that!" Because of the uniform pattern, you would infer that someone stacked them that way. For me, I can't look at a precise 3 billion nucleic acid sequence that makes up the human genome and say that that's random.
- Infidelephant, on 09/08/2008, -1/+2weird - if not dangerous thinking
- Infidelephant, on 09/09/2008, -0/+1If they have the "RIGHT" to teach it in PUBLIC schools - then equal time should be given to alchemy after the students close their chemistry books. And then, after astronomy, let's delve into the wondrous mysteries of astrology. THEN after biology, lets look into the benefits of phrenology and the four humors!
YAY TOLERANCE! - inactive, on 09/08/2008, -0/+1I've never met God so it wouldn't be fair for me to answer that question.
- oldhick, on 09/08/2008, -1/+2Right... People are crazy and they may do something horrific because they are crazy. But true people of faith are of no worry to anyone. Unless you live next door to them and they annoy the crap out of you, but they are harmless.
Grow up. - inactive, on 09/08/2008, -0/+1You see, that doesn't make any sense. Wikipedia defines Science as "the effort to discover, and increase human understanding of how the physical world works." Religion has less to do with the physical world and more to do with supernature and morality, both of which science tries to ignore (though morality does seem to govern science, but not vice versa).
I'm not defending religion or attacking science... I'm just saying that your statement makes no sense. - Infidelephant, on 09/08/2008, -2/+2But will it play Crysis?
(/overplayed digg meme) - darkstar949, on 09/08/2008, -5/+5Obligatory XKCD comic - http://www.xkcd.org/401/
The comic is also on topic though as it does raise the question of "Ok, so what if it doesn't find anything?" - DRC1, on 09/08/2008, -3/+2- "The more we learn about the universe, the fewer signs we see of an intelligent designer"
The more I learn about the universe, the more I believe in an intelligent designer. Moreover your beliefs should not be based upon any proofs of whatever, that's why it's called Faith. - inactive, on 09/08/2008, -2/+1I'm not religious, but I do know that the whole free will vs fate thing is debated in some churches. This is a pretty good example.
(I'm an athiest who doesn't pretend to know everything and an engineer. Praise be to Optimus Prime!) - AndrewMoyer, on 09/08/2008, -3/+2When so many of these religions have prophecies about a Judgment Day, a second coming of Christ, etc., and these people are so pious and certain of their path to Heaven, it's a bit ironic that they're freaking out about a bunch of scientists possibly making this happen for them sooner rather than later.
Either way, they're going to benefit: they either gain knowledge of His majesty and improvements on the quality of life, or they get annihilated and sent to Heaven. But instead, they'd rather preach their tired drivel and bury their heads in the sand.
Besides, if God created all of this stuff, and all of these rules of Nature, and He let us discover all of this and do all of this, isn't it possible that He wants us to do it and your attempts to sandbag it are just blasphemy?
You can't stop progress.
(I'm an atheist and an engineer. Praise science!) - oldhick, on 09/08/2008, -3/+2These are tired and pointless claims... First, their dogma maybe ridiculous and it may not be, but they have the RIGHT to try and teach it in public schools. Show me where the constitution mentions schools? I can show you where it mentions religion...
You have the freedom to tell your kids anything you want. Creationists are only asking that creation be mentioned as an alternative. Mentioned, not taught, so calm down.
When you say "the Church", I assume you are referring to the Catholic church and its stance on birth control in Africa. Those are old claims that have been proven false. The Catholic priests in Africa are some of the leading providers of birth control in Africa -http://ncronline.org/NCR_Online/archives2/2005a/02 ...
You could go on and on but you would just look like angry and bitter. Faith isn't for everyone. Certainly it would appear you are very opposed to it. But we all need to relax and learn a little tolerance if we want to make the world a better place to live.
Fighting the intolerance that religion has towards your scientific and sexual needs with your own intolerance is just an overload of intolerance. - fisharmor, on 09/08/2008, -7/+5The difference here is that serious theologians don't make these kinds of stabs at science, but it's expected that serious scientists are going to attack religion. One is the adult behavior.
Lewis said it almost seventy years ago, and it still holds true. It doesn't matter how many "how"s you prove - none of this is going to answer the "why". - mark101, on 09/08/2008, -5/+2"As science explains more and more, there is less and less need for religious explanations."
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NOT - pigfarts, on 09/08/2008, -6/+3Am I the only one who's seen MY SCIENCE PROJECT? Mark my words, tomorrow the Alps are going to be overrun by aliens, neanderthals, and the Viet Cong. Don't flip the switch.
- truck87bp, on 09/08/2008, -6/+1Who is the better Scientist and Mathematician, Stephen Hawking or God that you have never met yet? I think if Steven is that intelligent, it might just be possible that Steven might meet God in the 4th or 5th Dimensions. What is really possible?
- gdoodle, on 09/08/2008, -8/+2scientifically there is no religion
- RyeBrye, on 09/07/2008, -14/+5"If we put together something like a final theory in which all the forces and the particles are explained, and that theory also throws light on the origin of the big bang and gives us a consistent picture of cosmology, there will be a little less for religion to explain."
I am of the opinion that if all scientific truth were discovered, and all religious truth were revealed - that they would be the same. - inactive, on 09/08/2008, -15/+02econd!.....


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