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- geminitojanus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+22Won't have an uphill battle with me; taste test 1,000 different cows, whichever cow tastes the best, clone it and continue to do the same. Eventually you get the uber-cow, a rich, succulent cow that the rest of the world simply can't deny as being the best damned cow they've ever tasted.. well, unless you're Indian.
If it brings down the cost of the T-Bone, I say bring it on. - Badger80, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19I agree with the company that it’s perfectly safe to eat a cloned animal but I think they will have an uphill battle convincing the public.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12but the animals physical activity is also a key factor in how good a piece of meat is.
and is it actually cost effective or neccessary? I didnt know we had a cow shortage - kakwakas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10It would be good, but we would have to have seperate clones for seperate farms.
Why?
If the cloned cows are bred in a way that makes them susceptible to ONE really deadly disease, we'd lose all our beef. =( - Grimdotdotdot, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Even though this beef is the same right down to the DNA level, you'll still get stuck-up people saying 'It doesn't taste the same as *proper* beef'.
- Lifestory, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8you're still going to get people complaining about the quality, cloned or no clone. its the very nature of a human being to compare. i can just see it happening one day....
Customer: "This beef is bad"
Waiter: "But its a cloned of the best beef sir!"
Customer: "Well..... it's badly cloned..." - joseph93, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9WHERE'S THE BEEF?!?
- Cannon13, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5It's not like there's radioactive waste in our food products. Genetic modifications help increase crop yield and protect against pests, negating the need for pesticides. Would you rather eat GM foods, or foods with bug poison?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5'i remember reading a while back about how cloned cats still managed to have differing color patterns and attitudes...."
But do they taste the same? - jsp123, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals
- Egoist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Also the economic aspect. She states that it would cost 7-8 times to clone a cow instead of just raising it naturally. I'm sure prices will come down over time, but unless they produce giant cows with tremendous amounts of meat, it's not going to be economically feasible.
But honestly, I can't see the advantage to this. If we were running out of livestock and had to replenish their numbers by cloning, I'd understand, but I don't think I've ever had a properly cooked steak and said, "What horrible meat!" - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Unless you've tasted Argentine meat cooked the Gaucho way inside Argentina, you don't know that, so it doesn't really matter if you like what you have already.
- dmbrooking, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2But what about all the zombies we might create by doing this??
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2ChileanGoD besides the rest of your comment, which was retarded, you did bring up a good point (whether intentional or not) that cloned animals are more suseptabile to disease since there is no genetic variation among them. Bacteria and viruses evolve incredibly fast, one superbug could wipe them out in a short amount of time.
This wouldn't necessarily be harmful to humans in any way, but a shortage of beef is bad. - samdu, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5What do you want to bet that PITA will be against this in a voraciously voal manner.
- jcaino, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2not just physical activity, but diet as well - and who knows how many other factors come into play
i remember reading a while back about how cloned cats still managed to have differing color patterns and attitudes.... - CedEx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@jcaino
The other factor being how the meat is cooked. A good chef can make a bad cut of meat taste good just by knowing how to cook it. A bad chef can make even the best cut of meat taste like cardboard. - mapkinase, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Guys, it is not just DNA. First, even if you say that they have the same DNA (not, see below) all the cells in the body would have the same DNA in 46 chromosomes, yet you have very different types of cells. Not only DNA is important, but also the way you develop. The cloned animal and the twin are originating from different cells. Cloned animal's DNA is surgically injected into the embryo after the original DNA is ejected. It is surgery. Second, cloned DNA have shorter telomers. In other words their natural age is of an adult... Look at how Dolly aged.
- sofong, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Science Fiction hit this idea in the 1952 book The Space Merchants by Frederick Pohl & C. M. Kornbluth with "Chicken Little". I think this book stimulated Harry Harrison to write the 1973 movie Solient Green. These stories are not cloning but cuttings. Various labs around the world are keeping different muscle tissues alive and growing.
Depending on a monoculture is really dangerous either animal or vegetable. One disease can wipe it all out and anyway water will soon become the major issue. Some sources say that 1 pound of beef takes 5,000+ gallons of water versus 1 pound of rice takes 10 gallons. - TonySki, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1um... wait. wasn't this the premise of Dead Rising? Are we going to have to fight off zombies if the cows bite someone?
- headzoo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2This is simply selective breeding for the 21st century. It's not a whole lot different from taking the best bull you can find, and best cow, and mating them to get the best offspring. We've been doing this for what, thousands of years? (Not always cows, but animals in general) The big up-swing here is now there is no guessing how the end result will taste -- it has been tasted, and has passed muster.
I have no problems with this what-so-ever, and would be more than happy to eat a cloned anything. It's not like this is chemical process. Or mutation process. It's plain ol' DNA. - omega86yu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@Cannon13: And it will (hopefully) shut PITA up.
meh... what are the chances of them ***** up -.- - bobothn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I say we scrap the cow and start eating peta , green peice and alf members. they are all seriosly crazy people.
and dont get me wrong i dont think we shuld torcher animals. but the ***** those people do is down right crazy. - number1ck, on 03/14/2008, -0/+1Ughh...if you want to opt out of this buy local grass fed beef. You can find a rancher near you at http://www.eatwild.com/products/index.html . I buy my meat and fruit products at https://www.chaffinfamilyorchards.com/ .
- kd1s, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What I find more interesting about the article is the little fact that the abortive attempts to clone were all because of sloppy procedure. It appears this lab has figured out cloning.
So I find it hard not to believe that a human being hasn't been cloned yet. - jsd8cc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"What if you could carve off a chunk of the most succulent slab of steak you've ever eaten, clone a bull from it, then produce weeks of identically delectable dinners?"
Um, well, it doesn't really work that way. Twins are a naturally occurring clone. Cloned entities just have the same DNA as their counterpart, generally speaking. It grants you certain biological proclivities, but it doesn't have a complete effect on your physiological and psychological outcome. Just because one cow turned out "perfect"--while there's a higher chance--doesn't necessarily mean it's clone will be. There would have to be a very strict regimen to accomplish that.
I think the biological community needs to better explain to the general public how this whole process works. "Cloning" has very negative connotations.
That said - I'm cautious, but it sounds good. - Badger80, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@ mapkinase
An identical twin is a naturally occurring clone, if the burger you are eating came from a cow that had an identical twin would you think twice about eating it? - georgelogy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Digg down.
- georgelogy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Genetics are important, but diet is much more vital to getting a perfect slab of meat. A steer could have the best genetics there is, but put it on a diet of silage and grass hay, and it'll taste horrible. In the same way, a steer with marginally good genetics with a diet of mostly high-quality grains and molasses with a small amount of hay will be very tender, with excellent marbling.
There are already superior meat-producing genetics in the Limousin, Charolais, and Maine-Anjou steer breeds. Heck, we raised a Holstein steer on a grain diet, and that meat was very tender and flavorful.
Having raised steers for show and for meat for a while, I can tell you that while genetics do help, the animal's diet and excersize regiment is much more important. - richiestang78, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1This is like the whole GE Crop, if it feeds peopel and theres no proof of it being dangerous then go for it. Notice the people who are agaisnt things like this always come from countries that arent starving.
- RedXevious, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@ mapkinase,
How could you know it's NOT perfectly safe? It's just DNA. - buldir, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Just because we can doesn't mean we should.
- mapkinase, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Perfectly safe? How would you know?
- nclbbs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0In this article they're still killing cows though, it's just that they're cloning (and then raising and butchering) the same 'tasty cow' over and over. It's not the same as the vats of artificially grown meat, which does remove the need to kill animals.
- twoeyes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@ people like Egoist
Guys, they dont grow these animals in tanks they're born from a cow just like every other calf. - BRamBo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I still have some left overs from yesterday the ribs were absolutely delicious maybe i should bring them a piece ^^
But seriously it all sounds a bit scary. Then again guess its natural to be afraid of the unknown. Nowadays we all eat genetically modified **fill in**, years back i couldn't have imagined ever touching this. This still sounds better then the "Meat-o-matic" which seemed a bit morbid from where i'm standing. - Mastertoast, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I think you mean PETA (people for the ethical treatment of animals). But I agree this could be a HUGE problem especially with all the extremist acts that PETA CLAIMS they have nothing to do with. Although I, personally, am all for it. I think cloning is a practice we should develop fully before we criticize it's usefulness.
- ezkiel, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1We're running out of water? Where is it going?
- TheRingmaster, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I want a clone burger
- scottylist, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3Until you've tasted Argentine meat cooked the Gaucho way inside Argentina, you haven't eaten meat. Period.
- thelimopit, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Wasn't Viagen the name of the company in Jurassic Park?
- RedXevious, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Sligs look nothing like pigs. O_o
However, Paramites are a differant issue... - jonnyq, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0now, if they can just inject worchestershire sauce directly into the embryo...
I doubt this will work. Something about the DNA being "old"... Didn't Dolly the sheep have arthritis in infancy or something? IANAS - MrBabyMan, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1This brings up a interesting moral conundrum posed on 'Damn Interesting'
http://digg.com/offbeat_news/Damn_Interesting_Meat_o_Matic
"This technology could spell the end of moral vegetarianism, since animals would no longer be part of the meat-producing process. But it raises some interesting questions… For instance, would it be acceptable to use one of these machines to produce meat based on human muscle tissue? Practically speaking, human meat is extremely nutritious to humans, and such vat-grown man-burgers would not have originated from a human. There would also be no risk of cannibalism-related diseases. But on the other hand… Ew." - oilcan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0sign me the ***** up. this is the future of omnivorousnessishness.
- ChileanGoD, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Well, if they keep cloning one good tasting cow. Like in the movie Multiplicity, they will eventually be cloning from the clones and so on. So the Cows, over time, will become more and more stupid, more moronic. Then we will not be able to see the diffrence between a mongolic good tasting cow and one with the mad cow disease.
- dexOtaku, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Do it with pork - can anyone say "slig"?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1OOOOM. OOOOOM.
- Computer_Kid, on 10/12/2007, -9/+2Like our food needs more crap in it. Everything from our meats to milk to produce is modified or has crap in it.
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