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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+42I see consistently stupid people all the time
- fani, on 10/12/2007, -2/+36maybe because you don't get any ?
- ricree, on 10/12/2007, -1/+35Of course it isn't. The main point of evolving intelligence is to give us greater ability to adapt to changing situations. A lot of that would be lost if our brains got caught up on one fixed way of doing things.
- alexp2ad, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21It sure makes sport more interesting too.
- CaptainEO, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16Is that what kids are calling it these days?
- modiggs1976, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17Why do I constantly think about sex then?
- tito13kfm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Outside influences are always changing as well, it would be impossible even for a robot to swing a club exactly the same every way with changing conditions.
- ardenr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8No comment was made by the researchers regarding the difference between men and women in the study... It was feared their wives "could react unpredictably".
- D4r7h3v1l, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Yea, let's go with that...
- hotbutteredhtml, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Would you rather it ran on Windows?
- omaryak, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6You would think, though, that once your brain found the right way of doing something, it would keep it. Emerson once said "a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds," but not all consistencies are foolish.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3i.e. it's more accurate to say the brain is wired for *adaptability*.
- mooben, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I really don't understand how you guys are saying this is a "no sh*" category study. This study is specifically about motor-neuron and sensory input processing--not about "all thought" in general (there were some references about making chess moves and thinking about sex, drastically different points of processing in the brain). This study is definitely not "no *****"--there has long been speculation over why we can't move a muscle the same every single time and specifically its concerns with pro athletes. This study is ONLY ABOUT MUSCULAR CONTROL AND SENSORY INTEGRATION. NOTHING ELSE.
RTFA. Jesus. - DephexTwin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Modiggs, you must be a real hit at parties.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3He should really put the kids out of the room instead of just giving it a silly name.
- vertinox, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3In a closed system, using Game Theory's next best move and expecting the other player to make a best next move will always be a win for the computer.
Because playing irrationally or failing to play the next best move often will just cause you to loose since your opponent is playing with the knowledge of the best move you could have possibly made.
This works for chess, but on open systems of strategy it doesn't work as well.
Of course gut institution never won a strategy game and often times simply beating the opponent with overwhelming odds regardless of best tactical moves will win. (Think Zergs, Mongolian Hordes, etc)
In theory, the mind only evolved well enough to make enough decisions to have sex before dying. It just so happened that we evolved well enough to make it so we can adapt our environment to so we could have more sex. This ability turned out to be a prevailing factor.
If it turns out we face another species (or sub species of a branch of humans) that it turns out that a consistent mind actually cause non-consistent humans to produce less and their species to produce more then perhaps consitant wasn't the superior mind.
At least for natural selections sake. - node3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Which, of course, has nothing to do with the study is claiming. Robots can (and do) repeat the exact same motion over and over again, accurate to within the *physical limits* (what you are referring to) of the system, both internally and externally. The human brain, on the other hand, is not wired to repeat, exactly, the same motion.
It's not just that outside forces thwart our attempts. It's not that our muscles, bones, etc, have changed ever so slightly since the last time we performed a motion. It's that our brains just cannot repeatedly send the same set of commands. - maiku00, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@eolite
that would explain a lot - Zadkiel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It doesn't sound like consistency but rather repetition that the brain is not wired to do.
- node3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@vertinox
I know this was a side point, but in chess, aside from situations where your or your opponent's moves are limited by immediate threat of check/mate/capture, you really don't know what the best move is. If you did, you'd just always make the best move, and all games would be identical, being pre-determined from the best opening move, all the way through to the end.
While there are a finite number of possible chess games/board positions, there are so many possibilities that not even the most powerful computer extent can determine the best move (and, it's been argued, that a computer capable of fully solving chess would be larger than the observable universe). - Dankness, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is one tool of many that ensures that we are not going to specialize, and die off. By making sure that each time we try something new we eventually stumble on to a better way to do it. Avoiding the point where its perfected and we forget the other ways to do it.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I consistently bonk my wife with total disregard for her pleasure, finish, rollover and go to sleep.
- eolite, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5does that mean that the brains which are "wired" for consistency, like good sportsmen, are not that good?
- myheaditches, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Wow, nice way to take a joke personally.
- vertinox, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@"modiggs1976"
The only reason I dugg you up originally because of Fani's punchline. If you take offense perhaps it is your lack of humor that is your prevailing cause in your lack of finding a mate. - namezod, on 10/12/2007, -6/+6Lies. I beat the bishop in 20 seconds flat every friday night.
- node3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Your sexist comment, on the other hand, was entirely predictable.
Humorous, granted, but wholly inappropriate. - RushLimbaugh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0What a bunch of baloney!!
- ROFLance, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1consistent and constant are hardly the same word, *****.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1the catch phrase on the title that scientist said is completely misleading, from the article:
"Their study of neural and muscle activity in monkeys revealed that less than half of movement inconsistency is the fault of muscles.
The researchers suggested that the human brain evolved an improvisational style of movement, because the majority of situations involving movement are unique."
well, obviously, if e.g. you eat something and your muscles slightly change in ability, you can't give exactly the same command because you may fall.
buried as inaccurate title even if that scientist used the phrase. - SuckMyDigg, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3Maybe this explains why I can't hold a job for more than a year?
- HarmOnMute, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0this goes in the no sh category for me.
the problem is that society is all about striving for consistency.
no one wants to stutter when they read or speak.
this study just reaffirms a theory that relates this to the bigger picture.
check it: http://youtube.com/watch?v=W8kRh938Xf4
every person can be plotted on a spectrum that goes from randomness to complete order.
and there's an ideal balance at everyone's favorite number, phi. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0guellenon!!!
- RobRush, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1so practice dosen't make perfect... damn
- modiggs1976, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Actually I have a girlfriend. Whatever. I guess my retorts seem hostile because they are on the web not in person. Sorry if I seemed mad. But I can honestly say I am skeptical that none of you would try to defend yourselves. Whatever, truce fani. I must admit you got me.
- WhiteIce89, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1Yeah in general this was the "no-*****-Sherlock" kind of study. Too many of those lately :
- dmsean, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2Who knew? The Brain operates on Linux!
- blondebruce, on 10/12/2007, -5/+0give your brain credit for this,,,,,2 plus 2 = 4 3 plus 1 = 4 Now pretend you`re Bill Gates......then you see
that the computer can arrive at the same place by several pathways/references and a multitude of considerations along the way. You don`t NEED the same way each time. You need the same RESULT
each time. "Good Morning Miss Dove." Don`t forget to check which way the wind is blowing....... - ardenr, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2For the confused above me, I get sex and it doesn't stop me from thinking about it. Especially at school.
Also, lighten up modiggs, it was funny. You're ott reaction ruined it. - modiggs1976, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1Pwned? Are you ***** kidding me? Using leet speak? Dude you are married with kids. Grow the ***** up and stop trying to speak like you are MUDding. This isn't 1995.
- modiggs1976, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1Eat lunch for one second and some troll wants a flame war? Your wife doesn't get any either fani.
- fani, on 10/12/2007, -9/+2modiggs, once you've been pwned, its time for you to let go and shut up rather than your puny non-funny attacks.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -16/+5Because your mom hasn't put her clothes back on yet.
- itsamix, on 10/12/2007, -12/+1I definatly agree why are these people studying I guess not obvious to all but basic information!
- blast_flame, on 10/12/2007, -12/+1Interesting sport is an oxemoron.


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