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- SweetChuck, on 10/12/2007, -8/+232The title of this story seems to indicate that the lobsters survive, but the process obviously kills the lobster.
- doctechnical, on 10/12/2007, -18/+206miles01110: "Someone forward this to PETA."
People Eating Tasty Arachnids?
Obligatory Animal Cruelty Joke: A seal walks into a bar. The bartender says "What'll you have?" and the seal replies "Anything but Canadian Club". - se1zure, on 10/12/2007, -3/+175I'm more surprised that someone actually has a blog about lobsters.
To each hi own, I guess. - Daedalus17, on 10/12/2007, -4/+124Yeah I am a "virgin" who occasionally has sex for money...wait what?
- Lord_oftheTrons, on 10/12/2007, -19/+135To the PETA comments above, the last line FTA:
"In any case, I lose patience very quickly with all this "humane killing" mularky. All you need to do is watch animals eat each other in the wild to see how it's supposed to be done!" - doctechnical, on 10/12/2007, -6/+107Well, no, they're using super-high pressure water to do the dirty work, so it's more like "blows".
- Menso, on 10/12/2007, -15/+116Why do I feel really, really bad for the lobster? :(
- miles01110, on 10/12/2007, -49/+139Someone forward this to PETA.
- Frozo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+77"There's no more pain where you are, boy... Oh, Pinchy..."
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+80Delicious giant sea insects.
- randomgeek, on 10/12/2007, -9/+75Origianlly I thought this was horrible to do to a lobster. After about 30 seconds I realized that this is far more humane than boiling it alive. That and the fact that lobsters are basically underwater cockroaches..
- mistermanoli, on 10/12/2007, -13/+79***** up?... yeah... delicious?... oh yeah...
- iggee85, on 10/12/2007, -3/+68FTA:
"Whole Foods Market is currently working with a team that specializes in the physiological and welfare aspects of humane slaughter to have this machine evaluated and certified. Pilot studies with this machine suggest that the lobster is killed within seconds (rather than up to several minutes when using the traditional boiling-water cooking method). It is important to us that we ensure this is the case in order to remain consistent with our requirements for humane slaughter that we have established for all of the other species we sell."
lol, Humane Slaughter. - Cyre, on 10/12/2007, -10/+69That must REALLY suck for the lobster!!!
- ZippidyDoo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+60Zoidberg?
- norman, on 10/12/2007, -4/+59photo of shelled lobster http://static.flickr.com/63/171460457_a6df7357d4_b.jpg
- monospaced, on 10/12/2007, -1/+55more like removing their skeleton
- SnapETom, on 10/12/2007, -10/+58THEN YOU'RE NOT A VEGETARIAN.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/vegetarian
Jesus Christ. How hard is that definition to understand? - cybertron3, on 10/12/2007, -3/+50I've been a vegetarian since I finished dinner. I will probably be one until lunch tomorrow.
- ricksite, on 10/12/2007, -8/+49Yeah, PETA could use this on dogs and cats!
http://www.petrescueonline.org/newsinfo/petaeu.htm
If you like animals, skip PETA and support your local animal rescue. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -11/+48because it must hurt like hell...I also felt bad
- ij00mini, on 10/12/2007, -11/+46There's no such thing as sucking, anyway. It's just negative pressure on the opposite side.
/stupid physics joke - somnambulator, on 10/12/2007, -2/+33A fly with no wings is a walk.
- coyo7e, on 10/12/2007, -13/+43Ummm, yeah.. I'm not really an animal rights freak or antyhing, but that's pretty ***** up.
- Namronorman, on 10/12/2007, -2/+28I am a vegetarian and have been for a good portion of my life. A lot of people ask if I eat fish, so I understand where you are coming from. I do not know where people get the idea that vegetarians can eat fish, but they do. It is not an uncommon question. Well, they CAN, but that means they're not a vegetarian. I can eat cows, but I choose not to!
- SilverBack101, on 10/12/2007, -6/+31Isn't that like seperating a persons skin off of them?
- shadowsword232, on 10/12/2007, -3/+27Not the pancake sausage on a stick, that came from the glue and plastic factories and is 100% synthetic.
- sundancekid503, on 10/12/2007, -2/+26"I'm a "vegetarian" who eats fish on occasion, but wow does that idea/picture make me have second thoughts."
Don't kid yourself, that lobster would put you through a slaughter machine in a second if it had one. - imnojezus, on 10/12/2007, -10/+33Do you also feel bad for a bug someone stepped on? That's about the same level of sentience you can expect from a lobster.
If you think being thrown in boiling water for three minutes is a horrible end for a lobster... well yeah it probably does suck. Although the lobster is completely dead in seconds, those probably aren't the best seconds of it's life. As far as I was taught, you put a lobster in the freezer for about a half-hour, which very gently puts it to sleep. Then take a chef knife and plunge it through the top of their head, just behind their eyes, and bifurcate the brain. In terms of ways to slaughter animals for food, that's a pretty easy way to go. Better than anything a chicken, cow, or fish goes through. And CERTAINLY better than being crushed alive.
(edit: DAMN... hammydude got here just before me) - benijuana, on 10/12/2007, -6/+28mmm...... lobster....
- crumbelievable, on 10/12/2007, -5/+26Man, lobsters need to get some rights and fast. Let's think long term here people. What happens if lobsters evolve past humans? They're gonna remember this ***** and then there's gonna be a story on lobster digg like "Amazing machine separates whole human from skin while alive! PHOTOS!" Write your congressmen/women, the future is not safe.
- Frozo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21WRONG
Lobsters are not monogamous. It's a myth.
From a New York Times article:
''Lobsters are remarkable, sophisticated creatures,'' Dr. Atema said. They are not, however, monogamous, they do not tend their young, they do not settle for more than a year and they are not likely to live more than 80 years, he said.
The link is here:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CE1DC153CF93BA3575BC0A966958260&sec=health&pagewanted=3 - mold, on 10/12/2007, -17/+37this is horrible and disgusting. reminds of little kids tearing the wings off of flies for fun
- BESTenemy, on 10/12/2007, -11/+29@technix32
Allow me to portray the devil's advocate here.
Water used. For one thing - it's used everywhere, in industrialized produciton, not only for food prep and sanitation, but for cooling of industrial machinery, transfering energy and in countless other ways. You're making it sound like the water is vanishing, or that we're actually preventing rainfalls by making meat. On the contrary, our demands for plumbing have ensured artificial irrigation in places where water wouldn't have been naturally.
Feeling sorry for beef, chickens and pigs? Centuries of selective breeding have created them. The species in their current form would never come into being if it wasn't for people. They are manufactured in order to be devoured. They're not wild beasts that have been taken from nature. At least they're not anymore. We've been growing them to feed ourselves.
Killing animals? We haven't had much problem killing people as far as I can tell. I'm more concerned with wars, capital punishment and weapons of mass distruciton than a bunch of crabs.
90 of species were gone long before humans showed up. We did not kill dinosaurs. And we did not kill any of the creatures that either went extinct falling prey to a stronger predator, lack of vital resourse, or a natural environmental catastrophy. By natural I mean one the kind that happens without human intervention... but wait a minute! Who's to say we are unnatural?
What is natural. Anything happening in nature is perfectly natural. Who's to pass judgement on what should or should not be happening? Who made us the moral judge and the overseer? We invented the concept in order to feel better about ourselves.
Another thing to bring to your attention is that this planet, no matter how harmoneous, hasn't been here forever and it is not going to be. The sun's burning. It wasn't always like that and it won't be. No kind of peaceful and balanced evolution would produce a creature capable of surviving the period where our Sun goes Red Giant. Nothing lasts forever.
Who's to question humanene reasons of viruses and bacterias capable of wiping out much of life, not even caring whether the destruction of the host organism leaves them to die?
While we're so concerned about pure intentions there are things that don't share our preception of good and evil. They just live and they don't give a damn. We'll be saving your precious slices of beef from wasting precious water, and freeing chickens only to see entire stocks fall to mad cow and bird flu. Man made diseases or not - who cares. The fact is, life's way too vulnerable, unpredictable and erratic.
I'd rather have a taste of lobster before somebody else does. For all I know, tomorrow they could be gone. Be that global warming, nuclear war, asteroid collision, sea bacteria, overpolulation of sea lions or whatever. I say, screw life, as it's not going to last anyway. Neither "theirs", nor "ours". There's no dignity in life. We're killers. We kill for food, for fun, for protection and just for the hell of it. We kill members of other species and we kill members of our own species for the same set of reasons.
We either kill consciously, or in a way that's more distancing. Human activity in every form causes harm to nature. Just deal with it. The only difference is whether your're stabbing the nature with a knife, looking into its eyes, or sending a radio guided missile.
Some try separating themselves from the guilt while other's admit what they are.
I'm a predator bastard. That's what I am. I'm human and that makes me guilty by birth.
I bet you're not scribbling that message of yours on a tree bark with a stone. You're in a public facility, using a computer, powered by electricity. You're wearing a shirt and shoes. You might not be eating a piece of meat tonight, but you're likely using a cup, a bown and a fork for whatever it is you're having. You travel on highways. Even if you ride a bike, it is made of metal. It's nicely oiled, and let me assure you, not with vegetable oil. I tried it once and deeply regretted it.
Understand that in today's world it is absolutely not possible to exist without promoting the system in its current state and everything to do with it. Everything you use is mass produced. Everything uses energy and resources. Machines are operated by people and people operate on food. You might be an environmentalist, but through mere fact of your existence and consumption of basic goods you're promiting civilization and all the people in it that don't share your perspective - those lobster haters and meat eaters. Everything you do contributes intentionally or not.
But again, I'll tell you not to feel bad for this world. If we're lucky, we might get out of here and start devouring other planets as well. We might carry a bit of our predatory heritage off the surface of this earth before it is anihilated for whatever reason. We're the only creatures capable of surviving longer than any living thing surrounding us, on a cosmic scale. And we're the only ones that'll be able to tell millenias from now what lobster tasted like to those that will never see it.
I say it is our destiny, to eat up and have a good time. Let's honor our lobster-comrades by keeping a memory of their fabulous taste and carrying it though eons! Let's have a feast and then get off, before this solar system goes to hell, naturally.
As to the choice-making capacity. I see you've made yours. Welcome to the internet. And let me assure, the computer you're tying on is not made of leaves and seaweed.
Welcome to the club and enjoy the ride. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -15/+33i felt hungry :P
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -9/+26Vegetables are what food eats.
- dasluvaluva, on 10/12/2007, -5/+22If you've watched Alton Brown, you know you'd refrigerate the lobsters first. Then, you'd steam them for 2 minutes, in which case they die painlessly (because of the refrigeration).
- klawz, on 10/12/2007, -11/+27quote
Someone forward this to PETA.
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Will they take care of it like they do the 3 min (until they die) boiled-alive lobsters at restaurants?
At least with this machine, the will suffer much less. - natterca, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16" You aren't technically a "vegetarian" if you eat fish. You are a pesco-vegetarian. I am a pesco-lacto-ovo vegetarian... but because that sounds pretentious and stupid I just say I'm a "vegetarian". "
I'm a pseco-lacto-ovo-mammalo-vegetarian. Mmmm mammalos. - NSMike, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18Indeed.
Remember people, everything we eat was once living. - screensnot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14Roombas feel pain when they hit a wall. That is why they always turn away from it.
- BESTenemy, on 10/12/2007, -11/+25 The only reason you feel bad, is cause you're able to imagine yourself in lobster's place and think it'd be painful if was done to you. That's the power of our hypocritical compassion. Caring about our own asses and anything remotely resembling their image. Everything else can go to hell.
What you're feeling's self-pity, nothing more. You don't care about the lobster. All you know there's food, it tastes good, so it must be right.
That's how brain works. It takes a sample and wires a response. Sometimes a spec of association is triggered, but eventually rendered irrelevant to the matter of survival... or fun...
We're predators with filled with doubt and self-guilt.
If you feel bad for the lobster, go buy an electric car or an energy efficient light bulb or something. Do a good thing for the planet. Save a few extra lobsters. More food later for you, my friend. - ricksite, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14During lent, Catholics are not allowed to eat meat on Fridays but they are allowed to eat fish. Maybe this is causing people to think that vegetarians eat fish.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -14/+27what does it matter? as another Diggro said, they are basically the cockroaches of the sea. They have virtually no nervous system, its not like they are cows. Besides, have you ever watched an underwater animal show? They bite off legs at a time, or they get crushed yet are stilll living, and stay like that for hours. Killing them in 15 seconds is much better than boiling them alive for 3 minutes.
- psychephage, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16Killing animals with processing machines is so inhumane? Right.... then I think we should just eat our food live. It's way more humane for me to pierce their flesh with my teeth, ripping off mouthfuls of muscle tissue with each bite. I'm sure it's less painful and traumatic than being killed in a few seconds by crushing water pressure. Oh and while we're at it, why don't we sue spiders for the inhumane treatment and storage of its food. I think we might even be able to get some progress on this whole morally corrupt pack-of-lions-rip-apart-a-zebra-and-eat-it thing. What a bunch of animals.
- nepawoods, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16"but beyond that this is linked to a LOBSTER BLOG, unless its an actual lobster writing that, the website needs to be shut down..."
Let the lobsters shut it down then. - jmontes, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14Kinda reminds of that Far Side cartoon called "Boneless Chicken Ranch." Bleh.
- Azurensis, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Now imagine how it would feel with the nervous system of an insect...
- mt066, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11I only eat the non-monogamous lobsters though so it's cool
- TuxedoMax, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11So what are you saying? If lobsters were swingers it would be less cruel to eat them? Am I supposed to pity the widowed lobsters left to carry on by themselves?
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