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- Imagine3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12As a meteorologist I can say this. Strong and even abnormal hurricane seasons occur every 20-30 years or so. Look in the 5th paragraph here on NOAA's (National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration) 2005 outlook page. As for the global warming "myth" well...it is known that pollutants that we are releasing into the air are causing slight increases in temperature. However, the earth does go through warm and cold cycles. Some of you wont remember this because well, you weren't born yet (i wasn't either) but up until the 1930's the world was just coming out of an ice age. Not an ice age in terms of what you see in the movies, but it was still deemed an ice age. Please don't bash people for their theories and beliefs even if they are wrong. You all have a right to your opinion, right OR wrong.
- socket, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Considering even the most stilted global warming fear mongers will admit it'll take another 20-30 years to see even a couple degrees of difference in average temperatures. But suddenly we're blaming every last thing that goes wrong on global warming. It's fud, it's junk science, it's ***** mainly. Not one global warming study or computer model has taken into account our sun's solar cycles, and the last what 8-10 years of slowly increasing solar radiation? Good work, don't even take our earths main energy source into account. Environmentalists are just as blind and manipulated by media as everyone else. GET REAL.
- Imagine3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Sorry, the address for that 5th paragraph is here:
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2005/s2484.htm - gotamd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The problem with doing things that way is that if you apply it to the way you live your life or run your society, you're going to constantly be wasting your time on things that may or may not be problems while taking away energy and effort from the real problems like housing and hunger.
- ChewyBass, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Wow, lets just live in the now and not think that there has been millions of years of history. It's happened before and will change again over time. I don't have time to be your teacher, but here's a good starting point http://www.homepage.montana.edu/~geol445/hyperglac/time1/milankov.htm
- brewer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Didnt read the article, but grapes turn red due to exposure to a certain amount of sun. Peach flesh turns brown due to enzymatic actions after cellular breakdown. I don't see how this can relate to Global Warming.
- lollerskates, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Global warming is real, but not nearly as crazy or as fast as all of you hype-mongers are making it out to be. We aren't going to have a "Day After Tomorrow" type of scenario, it's just going to take away a few feet of coastland every few years or so, and maybe make things a bit warmer. It _will_ have long term effects, but they aren't "OMG COMMIT SUICIDE RIGHT NOW THE WORLD IS ENDING" kind of effects. At this point, it could be pollution, or it could be natural.
The retards who just outright deny it are just comparing this year's average temperature with the temperature of the last few years. Temperatures change all the time. There's probably been a slight increase in temperature, maybe 5 or 6 degrees Fahrenheit, in the last 50 years or so. - manvsmonster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"I'm getting tired with this "kicking common sense to the curb" way of thinking"
"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen." --Einstein - bat-21, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1TIMMY!
- TheWorkz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1WE DIDNT LISTEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- TimmyK., on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"There's a technical term for the "global warming" phenomenon: Baloney. Every other day, it's either "Bush's fault!" or "Global Warming."
Probable news headlines nowadays:
"GLOBAL WARMING CAUSED BY BUSH!"
"BUSH CAUSED BY GLOBAL WARMING!"
Oh wait..."
Hahaha. You are not intelligent. Poor Bush. Why does everybody have to pick on him? Boo hoo. - Math, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"You are dead on, but also remember that it is only the wack job conservatives and Republicans who completely dismiss Global Warming because they drank the cool aid that the oil company executives..."
Even the conservatives and Republicans are starting to realize that global warming is a real danger.
Even Bush, with his strong ties to the oil industry, now admits that global warming is a problem, and that increases in greenhouse gases and human activity is a contributory factor. - Corrosionx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Global warming is a tool of globalists (as described in the publicly available Iron Mountain document).
WE DIDN'T LISTEN!
(reference to South Park http://mrtwig.net/ep/908.html) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Well, because global warming is a myth, I fail to see how it can cause abnormal fruit to grow.
And even if it WAS real, a temperature rise of 2 degrees over 100 years is something I think we can handle as a species. - MrShoop, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2"Didnt read the article, but grapes turn red due to exposure to a certain amount of sun. Peach flesh turns brown due to enzymatic actions after cellular breakdown. I don't see how this can relate to Global Warming."
shhh, don't confuse the zealots with facts. - tonage, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1greenhouse gases and human activity is a contributory factor.
Right. But environmentalists seem to say we are causing the most of it. Just another example how how this president is realistic about things. A contributing factor does not translate to "SUVs will kill us all". - Corrosionx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2WE DIDN'T LISTEN!!
- tasadar24, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Oh woops, my first paragraph was in response to ForbesBingley. The two scientists are betting 10,000$ USD.
- fowkswe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1for any one that has any doubts about the scientific evidence pertaining to global warming, i urge you to read this 3 part article from the new yorker.
The Climate of Man I, II and III
http://geosci.uchicago.edu/~archer/PS134/kolbert.2005.newyorker_I.pdf
http://geosci.uchicago.edu/~archer/PS134/kolbert.2005.newyorker_II.pdf
http://geosci.uchicago.edu/~archer/PS134/kolbert.2005.newyorker_III.pdf
If you then have reason to believe its a sham, i'd love to hear about it. - hayden.evans, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1its cuz they touch themselves at night.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Now their fruit is the wrong colour, maybe they will start thinking about the rest of the environment?
Not killing/eating endangered species like whales (in the guise of scientific research) would be a good start. - Rirath, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2WE DIDN'T LISTEN!!
私達は聞かなかった!! - gotamd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Seriously, though. If this was the result of GLOBAL warming, then why is it only Japan that's affected by this strange phenomenon in its farming industry. I haven't seen any similar articles from other places. As for the hurricane season this year, there was a meteorologist who replied in here saying what we already knew (if you pay attention to facts) about how there is a bad season every once in a while. The temperature of the Earth would not be constant even if there were no humans around. That's why scientists study the layers of ice in the poles. They can get a vague idea of climate changes from the thickness and other characteristics of the ice. If it was only humans that changed the Earth's climate, there would be no reason to study that kind of thing because they'd all be the same.
- Corrosionx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"We are more likely to protect the environment when we own a piece of it and profit by nurturing it. " -Mary Ruart: Healing our World
http://www.ruwart.com/Healing/rutoc.html
That goes for commie liberals who think it's their only option cause the conservatives care only about making money and destroying the earth.
Libertarianism is unavoidable - Krisalis78, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1wow weird :-/
nice digg ++ - glitchbit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I have the perfect solution, we just need to freeze huge blocks of ice and fly them to the artics and drop them off to replace the melting glaciers and it will offset the melting water and we can reclaim our land going to the sea!
- NihilisticHate, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i havent read all the comments, but i know that what gives grapes and every other brightly colored fruit its color is the vitamins contained therein. beta carotene gives carrots its orange hue for example.
- oldcyborg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Since I percieve of Gaia as a Reactor, It could take a half million years before the controls would consider something to be a problem. Since we only have about 40 years(space travel)time actually have real observations from, how can we blame everthing from Aids to Zaire on Global Warming. We don't have any control over it, so we must alter what we can, meaning crops, fruits and so forth...
The weather WILL change. Logic dictates that it will. We don't even have proof of THAT!!!!! As my friend Larry Roofner used to say, when he was aggravated at the BS. "Get OFF my BACK!!" :)
He also, at the same time, would grab something invisible on his back, and sling it across the room...hehehehe Helluvafeller, he is!!
Cyborg - gotamd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1By the way, these gasses which we're putting into the atmosphere can and are reabsorbed by the Earth. It goes in a self-regulating cycle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_cycle - nlatimer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The weed of crime bears bitter fruit you old hag!
- Zlobadon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"By the time you idiots have enough of the kind of proof you want the world will not be recognizable."
Hmmm... Where have I heard a similar argument... Oh yeah, someone was trying to convince me that I should believe in Intelligent Design. - cool4u2view, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2We have abnormal fruits in the US too. It's just so wierd to see them walking down the street holding hands...
- slowloris, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I think people forget that the past 20 years is lucky to be a drop in a bucket the size of all th worlds ocean if you look at how old the earth is. A lot of past records show drastic changes in climate. The releases from volcanoes alone amount for a huge portion of global warming problems, and that has been happening since the beginning of earth. I will say that we aren't helping the situation and we need to get our act together regardless. But yea, if you really look at all the information it seems less reasonable that this is because of us.
- TheGooseyOne, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1there's gotta be a better explanation, because global warming doesn't exist
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Abnormal fruits....come to my town...that kind of stuff is normal here hehe
http://www.geek2us.net
Coffee - pox05, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2i dont think that is the same subject mister.joshua, but thanks for sharing anyway.
- Durrok, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1"It _will_ have long term effects, but they aren't "OMG COMMIT SUICIDE RIGHT NOW THE WORLD IS ENDING" kind of effects. "
See, I for one would be encouraging this. Less posts about global warming and more apartment vacancies! WIN WIN! - tonage, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3I'm getting tired with this "kicking common sense to the curb" way of thinking
Noone cares what you are tired of. I am tired of you tards looking for ways to prove your global warming crap. I don't know if it is true or not. But a hurricane or fruit does not prove a thing. - nihilator, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2"You are dead on, but also remember that it is only the wack job conservatives and Republicans who completely dismiss Global Warming because they drank the cool aid that the oil company executives..."
posted by TimmyK.
I'm just curious. So what do liberal, communist Democrats do? Hug the tree, give it some money, and drive home in the old VW Beetle which also happens to burn fossil fuels? - tasadar24, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1It's not just american's you idiot. Did you ever hear of the bet between two meterologists, a Brit and a Russian? The Russian's betting that in 20 years the earth's overall temperature will be colder.
No one can deny that from last year to this year, there has been an overall trend of warming in the earth, but do you have -any- idea how many factors there are besides green house gases? How water can both -be- a greenhouse gas and can be a cooling gas? How the Sun's radiation is changing, or how even sunspots have effects on our planet? There are so many factors that we're not even sure of how they affect the earth's temperature, that you doomsayers are FAR too early to be preaching the end of the world.
Oh and to all you idiots claiming we're going to lose coastline, Negative. The glaciers that are melting will raise water levels ever so slightly, but the north pole melting? Doesn't matter really, and no more Titanic's to boot. It's Antarctica that matters, ice suspended above water on a landmass, and you know what? Antarctica is getting COLDER. - SpazMuffin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Yeah, today I woke up and stubbed my toe and it hurt real bad, definitely global warming. You can't blame everything on an idea that has no concrete evidence. We(mankind) have only been on Earth for such a small amount of time. 60 the years ago the theory of Global Freeze was a popular one. The Earth changes. While we may be helping it along, we are not causing any severe damage. Remember, a volcanic eruption causes more damage to the ozone layer than America has in 50 years.
P.S. WE DIDN'T LISTEN!!! - CharlieInCO, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2That's right, abnormal fruits in Japan --- but not reported elsewhere --- a proof of global warming.
Someone might want to look up the word "global". - mlerner, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1No.............. Pictures.............
AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRGRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
*jumps out window, leaving WoW running on computer*
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So it's safe to say you'll be digging your own grave? :D - inepted, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1The title of this post should have been "Abnormal fruits reported everywhere in Japan, and we aren't just talking about the Otaku!"
- SuidAfrikaner, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1There's a technical term for the "global warming" phenomenon: Baloney. Every other day, it's either "Bush's fault!" or "Global Warming."
Probable news headlines nowadays:
"GLOBAL WARMING CAUSED BY BUSH!"
"BUSH CAUSED BY GLOBAL WARMING!"
Oh wait... - Saxonx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1"The high-quality grape 'Aki Queen' grown in climate-mild Seto Inland Sea coastal areas in Hiroshima"
It was the nukes you jackasses, damn! - ForbesBingley, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Why is that it's only the Americans who having problem grappling the idea of global warming?
No, this isn't flame bating season, this is an honest observation.
Not only do Americans not want to grasp the subtitles of the subject, but they vehemently resist the idea.
Wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that North America is responsible for 25% of the filth being pumped into our air and our seas, would it?
Sorry, that last bit is flame grilled bait... - MisterKen, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Must be global warming.
Couldn't be their pollution, suburbanization of farmland, pest / fertilizer treatments or any other thing besides the fashionable 'global warming' theory.
We have weather data that reaches back to the 1850's! That's over 150 years worth of data that shows our 5,000,0000 of year old planet is on the fast track to disaster! People, you cannot argue with 0.00003% testable data.
I'm tired of people who talk ***** about junk science. - ZMoney, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2WE DIDN'T LISTEN!
- ScaredCrab, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2By the time you idiots have enough of the kind of proof you want the world will not be recognizable.
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