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- Saint3k, on 10/12/2007, -3/+101My brain just exploded.
- synwolf, on 10/12/2007, -13/+55I was fine until I tried to imagine boobs in the 10th dimension. I mean, whoa.
Whoa.
*edit* maybe that wasn't my brain - NotASenator, on 10/12/2007, -1/+41If only you could digg stories in more than one dimension.
- ViperDaimao, on 10/12/2007, -5/+41Finally that stargate episode makes sense now.
- sydbarrett, on 10/12/2007, -3/+28Thats it, I give up on thinking in this dimension.
- quodlibetor, on 10/12/2007, -3/+26Mine too, except kind of from the outright falsity of the explanation, rather than the weirdness of it. Please, before you digg down my first ever comment here on digg, let me explain.
First of all, string theory deals with "ten spatial dimensions (plus an eleventh dimension of "time")." That's both true AND a quote from the site providing this garbage. And yet, despite having that as part of the site's introductory (i)sentence(/i), the first thing that the explanation does after finishing with the part that is easy to understand (3 dimensions), is it starts to pretend that time is one of the higher dimensions.
Then it gets into multiple temporal dimensions, and those just aren't touched upon by any incarnation of string theory That i know about (and i readily admit that there is much that i don't know). And with good reason: a major aim of string theory is to unite, or at least sort of de-incompatibalize quantum and einsteinian physics. And one of the (i)major(/i) incompatibilities between them is the fact that quantum physics suggests infinite worlds with infinite possibilities, and einsteinian physics suggests a monolithic deterministic flat out mechanical universe. They (probably) can't both be right, and as of yet i haven't heard of anybody doing research in string theory (or loop quantum gravity) that had any reason to prefer one over the other. The theory is just still too young to really be making those kinds of predictions.
Then, once it gets up into the seventh dimension, it just starts (i)repeating itself(/i). I'm sorry, but that whole "imagine the beginning of the universe as a point and the connection between the beginning and the end a line and multiple beginnings mean multiple lines etc. etc. blah blah" Is just exactly the same thing as multiple births of you mean multiple timelines. He can try and say that different initial conditions mean different infinitudes of timelines, but that's a false magnification. The original infinitude of timelines mentioned as the 5th dimension (and that technically included the sixth. And it assumes that the quantum view of time is correct, otherwise you have to stop at the fourth) includes all possible initial conditions. Because the universe's initial conditions don't occur outside of time. And, (i)even if they do(/i), as soon as time begins then you're talking about a timeline, and EVERY timeline is included in that original 5th-dimension (not 5-dimensional) infinitude.
If you want to know what the 10th dimension looks like you should search for calabi-yau space. The pencil illustrations that you find won't be quite as mind-blowing as that slick animation, but that's because they're so mind-blowing that you literally cannot interpret them visually. But really, if you're willing to spend a couple weeks reading a good book (such as "the elegant universe"), you'll find out that the real science behind string theory makes the hack-work in that flash animation seem mind-numbingly boring.
I'm sorry my first comment had to be such a bitch, but i really really hate it when people lie to the populace just to sell a book filled with the same lies. - tomi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+23loading shotgun...
- natmaster, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21Who says you can't? My counter-part in another dimension might be digging this right now...
- carpespasm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18actually, you should have an infinite number of counterparts which are both digging and not digging this article, but i would imagine the number of scenarios where you would digg this pale to the number of scenarios where you don't (incluiding ones where you never came to be because or some prior event to your life) so in actuality, you're digging this down in a way. thanks alot
- i440, on 10/12/2007, -4/+21loading assets...
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loading assets... - i440, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17If loading all these assets take too long, then I will provide a summary.
Pt. I - Space
0. Position.
1. Length.
2. Length & width.
3. Length, width, & depth.
Pt. II - Time
4. One specific time line, i.e. from your birth to your future self.
5. Branching of time line to different futures.
6. "Folds" between the time lines, enabling one to disappear from one time line and reappear in another.
Pt. III - Parallel Universes
7. All possible outcome of the this universe (all its infinite possible time lines) represented as a point.
8. A line between all possible outcomes of this universe and all possible outcomes of another.
9. A fold in the eighth dimension, enabling you to disappear from one line in the eighth dimension to another.
Pt. V
10. A composite of all ten previous dimensions represented as a point. - borninda818, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17it is slowing down as i am watching it, damn you digg
- Shultzman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Actually, I prefer Jerry O'Connell's explanation. His included a tour of the 6th dimension that lasted 5 seasons:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJQv2VADNiw - NotASenator, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17drunknjew,
You can buy it through the site. - Bdog2g2, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17I think I saw Rod Serling hanging around dimensions 5 and 6 having some coffee with Einstein.
Looks like they didn't want to hang around Newton in the 3rd dimension. - phronko, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Or maybe in an ALTERNATE DIMENSION.
- kweee, on 10/12/2007, -6/+18I'm sorry, but I can't respect any book that discusses fewer than TWELVE dimensions.
- WhiplashChick, on 10/12/2007, -5/+16What a great way to describe string theory! I'm going to buy that book.
- monolith, on 10/12/2007, -7/+18Great site... but a couple of issues... first... it's string theory... uh... enough said
Second this suffers from the Heisenberg interpretation of quantum physics which is just speculation, for a much better interpretation of the quantum mysteries see
http://digg.com/general_sciences/Solution_to_the_strange_mysteries_of_quantum_mechanics.
I'm not saying that the explanation in my link is simpler or a better done web site... its that the TT interpretation of the quantum mysteries doesn't suffer from the 'consciousness collapses the probability wave' semi mystical verbiage. - rageguy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11@quodlibetor
I'm glad to see I wasn't the only one having trouble reconciling the world this flash animation was describing from what I've read and seen about string theory. Granted I do not know a lot about string theory so I presumed that the reason I was having trouble combining this with my current understanding was the fact my current understanding is not definitive.
The Elegant Universe was a very eye opening book and TV series and I enjoyed them immensly, I highly recommend the TV series for those who are interested in finding out more about this subject. - fuckthissite, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12this site moves slower than a 3 legged turtle.......
- rafiss, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Working mirror:
http://www.tenthdimension.com.nyud.net:8080/flash.php
I was lost at around the 5th dimension, but I'll just trust OH! Media to knowing their stuff. - H3BR3W, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12Wow. this is one the best dimensional demonstrations I've ever seen.
I'd digg multiple times if I could. - n00854180t, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Monolith, you may be interested in some new research that "spooky action" at quantum scales is due to torsion. I agree though, I thinkQM needs to be looked at a bit more closely instead of relying "uncertainty" to explain away things people can't yet explain.
- phronko, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Very interesting, but this doesn't seem to quite follow from what (little) I know of physics. While I wouldn't expect detailed references in a simplifcation like this, I'd be interested to read the book and see if this is backed up by other physicists, or if it's just a composer reading Brian Greene's books then letting his imagination run wild.
- Livewire, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9if you include yourself in other dimensions, then you did.
- Vokas, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8***** no, those arrow sound effects were awesome, and i'm not kidding.
- cmyk, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Whoa... wait a cotton-pickin' second. I thought string theory dealt only in SPACIAL dimensions. Right after the fourth dimension, I felt as if i was being transplanted into the BS dimension. It's clever, I'll give it that. But it doesn't seem like a model based on anything but pop-science and cannabis.
...So, uh, where do I buy the book? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6No. What physicists have on their side is a whole ***** of hard-core mathematics.
- oyam19, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Great Explanation! I took a whole semester course on this stuff and it was not explained that well.
- Gepetto, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I betcha that's what they said about the heliocentric theory of the Earth too.
- subscribtion, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Weird, I've been watching The Twilight Zone marathon all weekend and today. This story jumped at me.
- phronko, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9Who said science had to be simple and easily comprehensible by humans?
- daeyeth, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Wow! This is brilliant! Informative, easy to understand, entertaining! This is what future education should be like.
- Snakedal337, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Me too!! Unfortantly linux's latest version of flash... isn't the latest..
- Satertek, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I learned how to imaging loading assets.
*diggs to return in the future* - simX, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Wow. What an absolutely USELESS LOADING SCREEN. Why are you using a progress bar if you don't actually show the proportion of progress in the progress bar! ARGH! (Well, at least the subsections have useful progress bars, but the initial one was annoying.)
- monolith, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Clarification. It's the Copenhagen interpretation. And it's TI not TT. I was REALLY busy when I typed that comment.
- natmaster, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Once he got past seven, he just re-explained what he said before.
- venom8599, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6You are about to enter another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind.
- grungyhamster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4(Sorry for double post, but I think this would be of some interest)
I am unable to find anything about the author of this book. Who is he? Where did he go to school? And for what did he go to school for? - Feign, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7A good simplified explanation, if you go for that string theory mathematics.
- jonom, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Ah, grasshopper, how can you expect to learn the ways of ten dimensions before fully appreciating the fourth?
- DyceFreak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4It takes an hour to load the vid for the 3rd dimension... f' the rest of em, I definately dont have enough 4th dimension for this.
- dolemite5005, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3That many deminsions requires way too much loading of assets. I'll stick to basic 3D for now.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Never trust anyone who says "I am not a physicist" and then tries to explain his own theory of 10-dimensional space-time. If you're interested in string theory, I really would recommend getting a book by maybe, oh, an actual physicist.
- Satertek, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Gah the edit time is only 60 seconds now...
- grungyhamster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"The only thing physicists have on their side is big, noisy machinery."
Don't forget the rigorous education on what past physicists have done. - Antebios, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4The perfect quote from Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure: "WHOA !!!"
- friend18, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3lol! how can you have trouble with the 3rd dimension. We're living in it!
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