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- MattTS, on 10/12/2007, -14/+108Damn Sony suck. I won't be buying any of their crap again (not that they make anything work buying). Their excuse about not meeting European safety standards is *****, unless they're admitting their products aren't safe which to be honest, wouldn't surprise me.
- pbaehr, on 10/12/2007, -5/+58@mywhitenoise:
Furthemore, only about (and I'm estimating) 28.23% of the 50% of the original 10% will agree that 13% of the aforementioned 10% will understand the convoluted percentages you've stated. - TheCount, on 10/12/2007, -13/+63Don't worry, the overwhelming success of the PS3 will more than make up for any mistakes Sony has made!
/sarcasm - thewebguy, on 10/12/2007, -7/+53tell them here:
http://www2.sony.co.uk/feedback/feedbackform.asp - glock22ownr, on 10/12/2007, -10/+57@MattTS:
I hear their batteries meet all safety standards, and at times offer a warm fuzzy feeling....
*****, I hope they go under, Microsoft may do some dumb ***** at times, but I hope the X-Box burries their piece of *****, uber delayed PS3... ***** sony! - NikoKun, on 10/12/2007, -8/+41how many people had preorders at lik-sang... that now will never get their's around launch?
oh well... just forget about Sony then... XD - unibomber999, on 10/12/2007, -8/+4086% of all statistics are made up on the spot
- johnsto, on 10/12/2007, -4/+34My favourite bit: the allegation various Sony Europe executives bought stuff from Lik-Sang, including PSPs and games that they couldn't get yet!
I'm sure that'll be rebutted soon enough by Sony... but who cares. - ninjakoala, on 10/12/2007, -9/+37Well well well.
It's quite an interesting attempt at corporate suicide from Sony. Congratulations on infuriating your hardcore customer base guys. Nice work. I guess killing Bleem! wasn't enough. Noooo. You had to stop the number one video game store in the world. REAL smart move. Not alienating gamers at all. - Raian, on 10/12/2007, -3/+28Sony's Lawyers used "Real-Time Litigation Change" to hit Lik-Sang in it's weak point for massive damage...
- llbbl, on 10/12/2007, -8/+24Sony: I Wii on your PS3... hehe
- iAlex, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Not good Sony, since Lik-Sang is just helping Sony to sell more products and it is bad anyway.
Btw, AWFUL name of your topic, does not describe much. - sav2880, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14This sucks for all of the other very niche things that Lik-Sang offered that will likely go to their grave now (their entire SmartJoy section, quirky battery products, and availablilty of any accessory needed, including very cool rare ones).
Whether or not Sony had the right to sue, the fact they did, won, and forced a company near and dear to a lot of gamers out of business can't be viewed by anyone as a success, and can't help their bottom line very much. Maybe them actually having adequate stock of a product for a worldwide release would be a smarter allocation of funds! - ahhell, on 10/12/2007, -5/+16Fight back with your wallets guys.
May Sony die of gonorrhea and rot in hell. - skoles, on 10/12/2007, -8/+19This is the 3rd time today this has hit the front page.
- ravis31, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14this is what sony has to say in this whole fiasco
http://gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=20564
In india we had only lik-sang to import games from!!thanks sony thank you very much
:'-( - woolf2k, on 10/12/2007, -8/+18Well, Let's see. Lik-Sang gets permission from Sony to sell Sony products in Asia and then turns around and sells them to Europe. Hmm... Sounds like a breach of contract to me.
If I were Sony I'd get pissed off too... There are reasons why those restrictions exist and it's not up to Lik-sang to decide if they make sense to them or not. - NinjAlt, on 10/12/2007, -9/+18Microsoft, if you have PR people who scour the internet, this would be an excelent udea to help Lik-Sang. You would score MAJOR brownie points in the gaming community by sending a few million Lik-Sangs way. You would no doubt see an increase in sales all over the world.
- TheSolomon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10India is a huge market. If the only company in town closes its doors, I can assure you there will others to spring up in its place. There's no way such potential for financial gain would go untapped.
- jonathantneal, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Maybe their Madison Media Software division can get gobbled up by somebody who cares. Hmm, Corel?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11gladly, I honestly hope most of the bashers here aren't just doing the "I hate Sony!"/"PS3 Launch today? I LOVE SONY!" *****, Sony needs to crash and burn with no survivors.
- rdtx2005, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Lik-Sang's main business is soelly based around Sony and their Products.. take away their main source of income and there you go.. out of business.
How soon people forget that Lik-Sang 'used' to be a modchip/piracy store.. - wargod18, on 10/12/2007, -6/+14Better title for this Story
WHY THE HELL ISN'T SONY THINKING - dolemite5005, on 10/12/2007, -6/+14Maybe these Lik Sang people shouldn't have broken the law?? Just a thought.
- jkoski, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11FACT: God hates console fanboys.
http://cad-comic.com/comic.php?d=20050205 - totorototoro, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10uh, what is your point? Where did what go? You think Lik-Sang just went out of business because they spent all their money, and "not on fighting the lawsuit"?
Do you understand how lawsuits work? Sony dropped the hammer on them with multiple lawsuits filed, and Lik-Sang can do the math; they can't afford to go up against Sony's money and legal firepower (and possibly their legal position, not saying they were in the right or wrong)
FWIW, Lik-Sang says they are returning any credits and unfilled orders, so they obviously do have money. Just not enough to fight Sony in the courtroom. - sq2shooter, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Do none of you understand business? Sony is protecting their distributors who they have contracted with to distribute their product. They are pretty much contractually obligated to fight any company that violates their agreements. If they don't sue, then they get sued by those company holding exclusivity rights of distribution. This stuff happens all the time. Sony may be a bunch of nitwits but I am not sure they had any choice in this matter. Sue or be sued.
- surfit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6The reason they don't like them is they lose control of their markets. Globalisation is a bad thing for Sony because it means people can purchase products from other countries where they charge less. Luckily for them they are able to rely on ancient trademark laws and of course brand their international products unsafe.
- HappyScrappy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Lik-Sang didn't even fight this in court. And they had to fold because of huge liabilities incurred because they ignored this law.
You would have thought if going out of business was really on the line they would have showed up?
It's almost as if they knew they were doing something illegal all along and instead of fighting it, they chose to close their site and make a splash in the press.
It really seems there is something fishy going on here. You can't push all of this on Sony. Lik-Sang has to take some responsibility for their actions. - felchdonkey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5brightertimes -
Actually, something very similar did happen to me. I bought a DS Lite from Lik Sang a couple months before they were out in the US.
My DS ended up having some problems, and when I called Nintendo, they said only Nintendo Japan could do warranty work on my unit, due to the serial number.
I knew exactly whose fault it was - my own for going outside the system. The US launch was only a couple weeks away, so I chilled out and waited for the Lite to come out here.
No one buys from Lik Sang expecting normal service from the companies that make what we bought, you're buying from a grey market importer, and that's the price you pay for getting something before everyone else. - rdtx2005, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11so it's a bad choice to sue a company that is breaching a contract by selling to other territories??
MS and Nintendo would have done the same thing. - chriskzoo, on 10/12/2007, -11/+16Shhh, people don't like facts to get in the way of their hatred.
- rude0197, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Lik-Sang has yet to claim they were within contract terms. It's aways easier to argue when you ignore the facts of the subject. Who cares if Sony Sucks, Lik-Sang was still wrong. Napster anyone?
- totorototoro, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6@The Solomon,
I realize all that. Of course they are still liable if Sony proceeds with legal action. Never said otherwise.
I don't understand why you two think there is no money, or that Lik-Sang has somehow spent all their money, and none of it on fighting Sony's legal actions. You both have asked "where is the money". I ask again, what money are you talking about?
There is nothing in this story from either side that says Lik-Sang is broke, or has spent all their money. All we can agree on is they are going out of business, and are not taking further orders, and are working to return credits to those that did pay. - 022A, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5"same goes with the freezing Xbox 360's and their DRE Xbox'es
what is your point?"
I enjoyed that post...
I honestly never would have thought that what I said there could be interpreted as Sony Vs MS.
I must be new here huh? - Shorties, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Are you kidding me the only people who were buying PSPs from Lik-Sang were people who wanted them before they were released, once they were released in Europe it was cheaper to get them from Europe then Lik-Sang.
The real reason Sony increased their legal power now is because they don't want Lik-Sang to ship the Region Free PS3s to Europe or other places that wont have them yet, they want to claim the largest launch in Europe when it is launched and if a few thousand people still have them early it will affect their numbers ever so slightly. - KingPsyz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Yes terrible move to stop them from ILLEGALLY selling THEIR product to other countries. Lest you forget, one of the reasons for regional releases is the region codes on DVDs and BLU-RAYs. The studios enforce these and if Sony were to allow them to continue to ILLEGALLY import systems and games out of their respective region they could be held liable for not protecting their copyright as well as their regional restrictions.
And how would SONY not want Lik Sang to sell PS3s to the EU so that they could do it themself? Either way Sony makes the sale nitwits.
I'm supprised infact that they weren't sued to oblivion before as I'm sure a fair ammount of their product is pirated. I read their little closing statement and it's was quite frankly long winded and unprofessional. Because mentioning that Sony employees bought systems and games from them is relevent... not like they don't have a direct pipeline to this merchandise. Like Sony retorted, it was part of their investigation.
I get the feeling this company is still doing business and just closes the Lik Sang name to cut and run. - Jump7Miles, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I despise Sony for doing this, but don't talk up Microsoft as if all the ***** they've done never existed. Microsoft and Sony are both major corporations and they do and continue to do shady things like this and screw smaller companies like lik-sang and us. If you want to like your 360, go ahead, I like mine too. But Microsoft are not the good guys.
- TheSolomon, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7totorototoro- Going "out of business" doesn't save you from having to face your day in court. The company still exists as of today, whether or not they're taking orders. That means the company still has to answer to whatever judgment might be handed down. Even if the company was completely defunct, the former executives and decision-makers would be held accountable. (For example, if the leadership shuttered the company and split whatever cash remained, those individuals might be expected to pay toward any fines or civil judgments; you can't just clean out the bank accounts and split town.)
So the earlier question has merit-- If they aren't using the money to defend themselves, where's all the money going? - zetsurin, on 10/12/2007, -13/+17"Why would anyone bother to read the article? This is digg - where people mod up insightful comments "Sony: I Wii on your PS3""
Yes indeed, digg is a mess. And a clance in the article about Microsoft sending a cake to the Mozilla team contains:
"CHENEYTHEDICK 10 minutes ago + 13 diggs
wow, now compare this move to SONY shutting down the party at lik-sang.com and you've got great free publicity. and seriously, ***** sony. in the eyeball."
That's right, insanely stupid off topic rant rewarded 13 diggs (14 minus my bury) in 10 minutes. Obviously be have too many childish MySpace rejects around here. - Arkz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4http://www.play-asia.com/
My main source along with lik-sang for import goodness... now my only source *cries* - rdtx2005, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"If you aren't offended by the way Sony acts, you should seriously stop for a moment and reconsider who you are and what your priorities are."
Sony was doing what any large company would do.. protect their assets. - diggeredoo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5i really enjoyed scrolling back and forth horizontally to read the 36345324654 article about how someone hates sony. This is truly cutting edge in your face important global news!
- Jayeugene, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"huge chronological gaps between console releases"
You mean the gaps that have been a usual tradition among most consoles in the past. The long gaps are nothing new. - rdtx2005, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5"Sony told me to buy a new PS2 when it got a disc read error. "
Biggest BS i have ever read.. if you cared to complain a bit.. Sony would repair your PS2 for FREE - joeydoo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7What Sony are trying to do is stop Europeans from taking all the PS3's from the US and Japan. Now why would they be worried about that.....?
Oh yes, that's because they decided to not supply any to Europe, and since that is a bigger market than Japan, the Japanese might not get any. - zetsurin, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6"everyday you hear something bad about sony"
Not outside of Digg you don't - BiGSexY420, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5WTF!!!!! I can read all the comments. Where are all the Sony Fanboi diggdown bots?
- WhereAmI, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4This has been on the front page already. Twice today. In fact, it is two before this. And its been here a while back Lik-Sang was importing PSPs and PS2s. This allowed the units to bypass the testing regulations for Europe. You understand? Its not like Nintendo or Microsoft(especially Microsoft) has tried to stop this before.
- Darksoul, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5WickedDrag0oN I was going to post that very same info you saved me alot of time all you people bashing Sony right now don't get why they closed them down not only does it them but hurts you in prices when these people import things that have warranty's per region for a reason why are you all so quick to bash Sony for everything little thing they do but yet and act like you are just giving constructive criticism but yet at the same time you sit and act like Microsoft is out to help you they arnt out to help you if you think Sony is bad m$ is thousands of times worse.
And no I am no Sony fan boy when I buy my electronics I go with whats the better deal for the price and also what will bring me more joy out of using the product, and your dam wright uownedge the only people bitching is people on digg and m$ forums why are you all bitching if you have no intention of buying a ps3 seriously get over yourself. -
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