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- Gimjee, on 07/19/2008, -18/+109MGS2? Seriously?
- mentat0, on 07/19/2008, -3/+50Invisible War (I can't even prefix it with Deus Ex) was the biggest gaming disappointment to me at the time. I'm a huge fan of the original and played the entire thing through another time just before IW was released. What a mistake that was! IW, as the post states, ripped out all of the complexity and depth that made Deus Ex stand out.
All that being said, I went back and played through Invisible War again recently (with a high-rez texture pack). Surprisingly, it wasn't as bad as I remembered. It wasn't a good game, but when I wasn't trying to compare it to the original it wasn't too bad. Yes, it does lack the complexity of the original and the story isn't anywhere near as good, but it was indeed decent. Of course, I still can't put Deus Ex in front of the title. Here's hoping Deus Ex 3 is better! - ry4nsm1th, on 07/19/2008, -15/+61When I saw the title the first thing I thought of was MGS2. The back of the box says, "It's up to Solid Snake..." And I got to play Solid Snake for 45 minutes...then they dump this whiny bitch Raiden and his whiny bitch girlfriend on me? When I press the X button he does some stupid unimaginable gravity-defying flip kick? Then the whole terrorist attack isn't even real, it is a simulation to gather data to train soldiers?
I could continue, but come on...how can you people above me say it wasn't disappointing. - inactive, on 07/19/2008, -12/+52I disagree on chrono cross. Instead they should have put halo2 on that list and also perfect dark zero.. definitely perfect dark zero.
- sevenslashfour, on 07/19/2008, -2/+42Well that was kinda a crappy list.
- dsm88, on 07/19/2008, -0/+37The author is talking about the Japanese SMB2, not the one you know: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Mario_Bros.:_Th ...
- dha07030, on 07/19/2008, -29/+65MGS2 ummm... no. buried!
- kyle212, on 07/19/2008, -3/+35Although I admit MGS2 was not as good as MGS1 it was still a brilliant game
- CrazyForSW, on 07/19/2008, -0/+22Where the hell is Perfect Dark Zero?
- TiMMY8765, on 07/19/2008, -0/+21Hey Jack, do you remember what day tomorrow is?
SHUT THE HELL UP I JUST WANT TO SAVE MY GAME! - jd72277, on 07/19/2008, -0/+21would the tattoo make music? bad ass!
- dxprog, on 07/19/2008, -0/+20Yeah, it was a reskin of the Japanese Doki Doki Panic. What we know as Super Mario Bros 2 was released in Japan as Super Mario USA, so technically they got the same game twice.
- cobainirvana, on 07/19/2008, -2/+22I wanted to get a Chrono Cross tattoo when I was younger b/c the music was phenomenal....
- inactive, on 07/19/2008, -4/+23I buried this article for including Chrono Cross on the list. Seriously, what is wrong with 1up? Chrono Cross was one of the best RPG titles to came out on the Play Station, it was a really good game and good story. To me, it lived up to its predecessor, maybe it wasn't better in the sense that Chrono Trigger was something completely new and original at the time but that doesn't mean that the sequel was disappointing in any way.
- tommyjames, on 07/19/2008, -0/+17perfect dark zero! i waited for the sequal for years and thats what they gave me!
- matt247, on 07/19/2008, -3/+20What about Madden?
- bigbadgoat, on 07/19/2008, -5/+19Have you played the 4th?
The story of MGS2 is redeemed in a lot of ways.
Sure, it's obscure, but it works well with the overall story. - funwithfire, on 07/19/2008, -0/+14ya dude i hate good games too
- houndeyex, on 07/19/2008, -0/+13I've heard that Super Mario Brothers 2 wasn't originally a SMB game at all. They just threw in the SMB characters to make the game sell better.
@dsm88: The Lost Levels are freaking hard. - jd72277, on 07/19/2008, -1/+13Spy Hunter 2 should be #1.
- lukerat88, on 07/19/2008, -1/+13Okay, I gotta disagree about MGS2. While I was miffed that I had to play as Raiden for most of the game, it still had an enthralling (though confusing at times) story, awesome villains, and really tight gameplay. The only game I played through more than MGS2 was MGS; I could hug corners and hold up bad guys in the Big Shell for hours. Plus, there is an awesome pay-off for introducing Raiden when you play MGS4 (he goes from "wimp" to a totally badass ninja in no time).
- tehjabba, on 07/19/2008, -0/+12GTA 4 was awesome. What other game offers anything close in scope beside MGS4?
UT3 is quite good but compared to 2K4 it is a disappointment
What about FIFA/Madden/WWE and other sports games? Paying year on year for what's essentially the same old ***** with an updated player roster. - christopheles, on 07/19/2008, -0/+11He was talking about the Japanese SMB2 AKA "The Lost Levels"
- 801NvizioN, on 07/19/2008, -0/+11The clouds look like the bushes.
- Frozenfuryblade, on 07/19/2008, -1/+10Everyone who dugg that comment is a ***** liar.
That game is flipping impossible - SaladCactusKing, on 07/19/2008, -1/+10Playing MGS2 right before playing MGS4 makes the game work a lot better, I've noticed.
- inactive, on 07/19/2008, -0/+9Snake? Snake? SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE!!!
- EmperorAwesome, on 07/19/2008, -0/+8That's the point though.
- Shogi, on 07/19/2008, -1/+9Apparently you also haven't played 3 if you think 2 had a better story.
- tolbs, on 07/19/2008, -2/+10My jaw dropped when I saw Chrono Cross at #2. That game was incredible and the main reason I bought a PS1. I agree in that Chrono Trigger was out of left field and captured so many people, but Chrono Cross was just as every bit a great game that doesn't get as much love as it should.
- zephyr42, on 07/19/2008, -3/+11-GTA 4 is good sequel.
-Any UT game will never be as good as UT circa '99
-Halo 3 does suck, but I think Halo 2 was worse than Halo 3 by far. - inactive, on 07/19/2008, -2/+10***** list...Chrono Cross was very well done
- Zounas, on 07/19/2008, -11/+19I kinda liked SMB2. In what other game can you ride with most of the enemies? The bosses and levels were cool, too. Maybe the designers were smoking crack.
- mrburgundy, on 07/19/2008, -2/+10i disagree with halo two. look at what its multiplayer has done for videogames. xbox live is pretty much ***** based off of halo two. its campaign was disappointing sure, but the multiplayer sure made up for it.
- rz8472, on 07/19/2008, -0/+7Master of Orion III? I remember one reviewer put it best - playing MoO2 was like running an empire; playing MoO3 was like running the bureaucracy of an empire.
- CrushThemTorg, on 07/19/2008, -0/+7Heh ... I rule at reading.
- inactive, on 07/19/2008, -0/+7well God of War 2 and Zone of the enders 2 and resident evil 2 and silent hill 2.... do I even need to continue?
- B3000, on 07/19/2008, -4/+11Because the gameplay and the graphics were ***** awesome regardless of Raiden and the crappy story.
- NathanielJ, on 07/19/2008, -0/+71. The reply button is your friend.
2. Sales do not determine how good a game is.
3. Make you sentence makes sense. It toke me 3 read for finding out what you say. - K7Avenger, on 07/19/2008, -2/+9Buried due to MGS2 being on the list
- GreatOne08, on 07/19/2008, -2/+9MGS2 is my favorite MG of them all.
- mistahroth, on 07/19/2008, -0/+7The most disappointing list of the most disappointing video game sequels...
Medal Gear Solid 2? Honestly? Sure you can't play Snake, but it's still an incredible game..... - rebotfc, on 07/19/2008, -2/+9Invisible War should of been number one, they destroyed the Deux Ex name with that abomination.
- supermanly, on 07/19/2008, -7/+14Read up a bit on the storyline before complaining about it. There's been a fair amount of analysis of it.
http://www.deltaheadtranslation.com/MGS2/DOTM_TOC. ...
http://junkerhq.net/MGS2/
http://boards.ign.com/metal_gear_solid/b5200/64023 ...
It's very deep and well thought-out actually. - forgeflow, on 07/19/2008, -1/+7"Metal Gear Solid 2 sought to alienate its players, and it did, though the charm of playing a fourth-wall busting prank was a little hard to swallow when the admittedly awesome gameplay bits got lost in a sea of meta." - is that sentence even supposed to make sense? WTF?
- ronaldmonster, on 07/19/2008, -1/+7Take MGS 2 off the list, that is a terrible choice! Add Knights of the Old Republic 2 where MGS is and we have a list Digg list.
- lemur, on 07/19/2008, -1/+7I have to disagree with this. I liked Chrono Cross a lot, and I also really liked MGS2. They could have found worse sequels than this.
The only thing that would make a game like Chrono Cross bad is "nostaliga bias", meaning "zomg it's not Chrono Trigger." Yeah well if I wanted to play Chrono Trigger, I'd freaking play Chrono Trigger. - tolbs, on 07/19/2008, -0/+6Perfect Dark Zero KILLED ME, what a pile of trash. I've never been so disappointing by a game in my life.
- protogenxl, on 07/19/2008, -0/+66. SSX On Tour
They threw out everything that made SSX unique and turned it into Tony Hawk World Snow Tour. - mcfarnsberry, on 07/19/2008, -0/+6I think the author has the SMB2s flipped. When I got the American SMB2 I wanted to tear up the Mushroom Kingdom and stomp the ***** out of some goombas...instead I was running around throwing turnips at midgets. When The Lost Levels was released in the states I was overjoyed, the game is pure platforming bliss. I'm still waiting for Nintendo to release another difficult 2D mario game.
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