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- piper999, on 12/01/2007, -0/+95Well, I won't be relying on Gamespot for reviews any longer. I guess the message to anyone who still uses them is that if an advert for the game they are reading a review of appears anywhere on the site then the review has been bought.
- Kila, on 12/01/2007, -2/+49#1. I refuse to buy another EIDOS product ever the games they have are Irrelevant anyways Tomb Raider Kane and Lynch Hitman bahh 90's relics
#2. I support Jeff and Tim they have integrity and journalistic smart the review was 100% accurate and harsh its a horrible game.
#3. Shame on EIDOS for crying
#4. Bigger shame on Gamespot/CNET for bending over for a few measly bucks. CNET/Gamespot = Irrelevant - gozeronline, on 12/01/2007, -1/+33Jeff was possibly the single best reviewer I have ever seen. Although you might not agree with his review scores, you have to admire him for giving his honest opinion about them. This whole thing is ridiculous. And every one thought IGN was the one getting money hats.
- darkchild82, on 12/01/2007, -1/+28I'm really upset over whats happening to my favourite gaming website. I'm really gonna miss these guys. Tim with his crazy metal videos & napkin collection - & Jeff, man...that guy made podcasts & the videos funny !
- demonsnake69, on 12/01/2007, -0/+24Gamespot was once my favorite gaming website, but now they've lost all integrity. I won't be visiting the site anymore
- Konrad9, on 12/01/2007, -1/+14Crying out loud.
I wish I was an actual employee and and not 'just' a forum moderator, so my leaving could have more of an impact. - TalkingBanana, on 12/01/2007, -1/+11'Least Alex Navarro is still there...
- reddevil3, on 12/01/2007, -0/+10Goodbye Gamespot...it was nice knowing ye.
- inactive, on 12/01/2007, -1/+10i knew something was wrong when jeff wasn't on the hotspot. jeff is always on the hotspot. always.
anyway, the site sucked after rich left. and agree or disagree about his review, jeff's humor is the only reason why people go to gamespot. i thought cnet was above being their advertiser's bitch. i thought if anyone did this, it would be RUPERT MURDOCH-owned IGN. not gamespot, and definitly not jeff. - MalikNYC, on 12/01/2007, -0/+9http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FuJ81sDR2o
This is the review that is in question... - dahuf, on 12/01/2007, -1/+10I'm gonna opt out of my GameSpot Complete subscription if Jeff really got fired for a rating. I always looked forward to Jeff's video reviews. This is complete *****.
- inactive, on 12/01/2007, -1/+9I feel the same way you guys do, although I already stopped going to Gamespot and started watching independent gaming podcasts about a year ago. I suspected this would happen eventually, but it's still really unfortunate.
- z0zin, on 12/01/2007, -0/+7I've been using Gamespot ever since they launched the website. Posted on the forums for a while as well. Their reviews used to be tough, almost never giving a game a 9 or above. Lately, ever since they dumbed down the review system, all the reviews suck. How the hell do you give Assassin's Creed a 9/10 and Mass Effect 8.5/10? I'm just gonna use metacritic from now on.
- Taikomochi, on 12/01/2007, -0/+7I love how the ad on the site when I visited said "When the going gets tough, CHEAT!" gg Eidos
- TalkingBanana, on 12/01/2007, -0/+7Well then ***** gamespot.
- inactive, on 12/01/2007, -0/+7this was written by rich. apart from the numerous CoD4 references, there's no way you could tell that a gamer wrote this. really beautiful piece.
http://www.gamespot.com/users/Richie-G/show_blog_e ... - cambob76, on 12/01/2007, -0/+6What a poor decision! They should have told Eidos to go to hell. Sure they would have lost some ad revenue, but look at the alternative, i.e. what is happening now. It's gonna be far worse.
Also, maybe Eidos shouldn't have tried to shove a piece a ***** game down peoples throats. That's just lose-lose. - CapnDeviance, on 12/01/2007, -1/+7What does the Electronic Frontier Foundation have to do with this?
- Pinkshisno, on 12/01/2007, -1/+7While I did not fully agree with his review on Twilight Princess, I admire that he gave his honest opinion and did not ride the hype like the rest of the reviewers. That's what reviewers should be doing: not riding the hype wagon and state what they really feel about a game. He pretty much gave that game a 9/10 which it is a pretty good score. Twilight Princess was basically a refined OOT so it doesn't deserve a "perfect score." He was pretty entertaining and was one of the few reasons I still visited Gamespot. With him out there is pretty much no reason to visit that site.
The review system is broken if honest reviewers are getting the shaft. Way to lose even more credibility game sites. Keepy giving away your 10/10's like free candy. Then again it's not free with all money given to them. - pegisys, on 12/01/2007, -1/+7a couple years ago gamespot was one of the first places I looked for reviews. The reviewers had the same opinion as me about many games and the reviews that I didn't agree with the reviewers I still respected their opinion because the had well thought out explanations of why they scored a game the way they did. Then it turned into the reviewers would criticize the game but still give it high scores.
Now it has just gone to crap but for people that didn't read the reviews and only looked at the scores probably didn't notice the change and just thinks there are a lot of good games that came out - Arkavus, on 12/01/2007, -0/+5If you got several other mods to quit also it would have an impact.
- MutatedNantuko, on 12/01/2007, -0/+5Murdoch owns everything, good god.
- cambob76, on 12/01/2007, -0/+5Murdoch owns IGN? ewwww.
- Laxaloot, on 12/01/2007, -1/+6your name suits you.
- Laxaloot, on 12/01/2007, -2/+7I agree with the guy over on the rev3 forums that said he should join rev3
- Neiby, on 12/01/2007, -0/+4Thief was awesome.
- DreamVsPs2, on 12/01/2007, -0/+4Something fishy is going on. Not just GS but IGN, GT and 1UP.com. The truth is finally starting to come out. First the whole AC reviews crap and now people getting fired for an opinion? C'mon now.
- TalkingBanana, on 12/01/2007, -0/+4edit: I just checked I think he's still there.
- Godlike, on 12/01/2007, -4/+8lol @ relying upon gamespot for reviews
- gmiley, on 12/01/2007, -0/+3Sorry, but this is one of the times that the line "there's no such thing as bad publicity" just isn't going to apply. When credibility is is what your business is suppose to be based upon, and you drop the ball like they have here, it's going to be really hard to recover from that. I mean, seriously - why is anyone going to bother listening to their reviews when they know that a high score can just be bought?
- brwright, on 12/01/2007, -1/+4User reviews are the only way to go nowadays. I used to be able to trust sites like Gamespot and Download.com (both owned by cnet, coincidence?) but not anymore, money is number one.
- SilverBack101, on 12/01/2007, -0/+3http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jeff_Ger ...
This older draft of Jeff's wiki page is funny as hell. Especially, the last paragraph. - Talena, on 12/01/2007, -0/+3Come on, does any one really expect objective reviews from a site who is partly paid by the company who's products they are supposed to rate?
Conflict of interest, if you want to avoid this, try finding a site that doesn't generate money through gaming ads. - Wartz, on 12/01/2007, -2/+5I liked greg k's reviews better, but jeff was still damn good.
- gmiley, on 12/01/2007, -0/+2Well what it means to me is, if they advertise a game, it's because they liked it. Don't get me wrong, I don't base my purchases off of any one persons review, but the fact that PA turns money down because they refuse to advertise a ***** game, well... that says to me that they have a good bit of integrity.
- somesthetic, on 12/01/2007, -0/+2rich didn't even review games, he just hosted audio and video content.
- slaystench, on 12/01/2007, -0/+2I was wondering if other staff at GameSpot would leave, if Jeff was indeed fired.
- Talena, on 12/01/2007, -0/+2It's good they refuse to advertise bad games, but even if they did, you prob wouldn't buy that game anyway.
The problem still remains for the games that matter - Jadinlee, on 12/01/2007, -0/+2Gamespot will become the new SOE among gamers. I'd be jumping ship at Gamespot if I worked there and didn't want to be associated with a sinking ship. This strikes at the heart of their credibility and that is much harder to recover from. I'm happy to modify my gaming news intake to be Gamespot (and CNET) free! I did it with SOE and there is room for more.
- Buckiller, on 12/01/2007, -0/+2After all this i checked out gamespot... and honestly it is way better than magazines... maybe not other online sources but still...
Prolly cause they dont hand out 10's like crazy... I think the secret is, you have to know who is reviewing it and know how your preferences are in relation to theirs.
Anyway, I dont even look at reviews except for fun (like ROck Band) - Talena, on 12/01/2007, -0/+2I love this part: "yet I sympathize greatly with those left with the difficult choice of "kicking" (following one's moral compass out the door) or "sticking" (paying that San Francisco rent in a tough I economy)." It's a beautiful kick in the nuts to his colleges who chose to stay, who according to Rich have thereby lost their morale :P awesome!
- darkchild82, on 12/01/2007, -0/+2The guy who fired Jeff is someone named Josh Larson, a jerk formerly from Maxim who took over after Greg Kasavin !
http://digg.com/gaming_news/Josh_Larson_Director_a ... - rockyds, on 12/01/2007, -0/+2It was sad when Greg Kasavin left but now the last good reviewer on gamespot is gone, have to look for some other alternative review site now
- darkchild82, on 12/01/2007, -0/+2ha ha..so true !
- Talena, on 12/01/2007, -0/+1yea, and IGN doesn't have any game ads at all....
- BugMeNot2, on 12/01/2007, -0/+1PC Gamer Podcast and the GFW Podcast are great. I haven't listened to it, but I heard GameTheory is good, too.
- SilverBack101, on 12/01/2007, -0/+1It's also interesting that the forums for Gamespot have been going through some "maintenance" work now and then all day.
- YoungBeur, on 12/01/2007, -0/+1This video should be posted everywhere. They took it down so it won't be seen, so it should reach at least 200k views to show those *****. The game sucked and it got what it deserved imho!
- Dweed, on 12/01/2007, -0/+1Eidos...worse than EA?
- reed311, on 12/01/2007, -1/+2Well, it sucks that Jeff got the boot because of the review, but let me play devil's advocate.
The video review that Jeff gave was pretty poor in terms of professional standards. He rated the game a 6.0, but he spent the *entire* time trashing the game. You would have thought the game deserved a 1.5 after seeing his review. Now, I certainly don't think he should have been fired over it. His bosses should have reviewed the video before it was posted to the site to see if it was appropriate or not. However, if it turns out Eidos had a hand in his firing, then I will not be purchasing anymore games from them. -
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