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- bixby1, on 07/28/2008, -7/+47$4.9 billion for wind sounds a lot better than $1.2 trillion for war.
- braunagn, on 07/28/2008, -2/+18Renewable Energy: it's going to happen.
- inactive, on 07/28/2008, -6/+19Typical tree hugger. No matter what we do we are wrong.
It's not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or when the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions and spends himself in a worth cause; who at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement; and who at the worst if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory or defeat.
Enjoy the cold. - inactive, on 07/29/2008, -7/+20Thankfully, Senator Ted Kennedy doesn't own any land near that wind farm development. Otherwise, he would have put a stop to it pronto...just like he did when someone wanted to place a windfarm near his property up north.
Hypocrite!!! - Buelldozer, on 07/29/2008, -1/+11What are you talking about? Texas *already* generates big time power via wind!
- daprice, on 07/29/2008, -0/+9One interesting aspect of electric power in Texas is that Texas has its own grid. In the U.S. there are three electric power grids: The huge Eastern and Western Interconnects, and the Texas Interconnect. The Texas grid doesn't exactly follow the Texas border, but it covers most of the state. So it is interesting that so much wind power is being installed in Texas, and it doesn't have to share it with neighboring states (there are a few connection points to the other grids). http://encarta.msn.com/media_701509077/the_nationa ...
- FelixdaaHack, on 07/29/2008, -0/+8Every State needs a T. Boone Pickens type to get alternative energy plans into action
- arunforce, on 07/29/2008, -0/+8Near the Texas border, you can see huge wind blades being moved by oversized load trucks (saw like 10 different trucks carrying them) , and even a wind mill plant with like 20 ready to go windmills. They really are ramping up for wind power.
- Queue29, on 07/29/2008, -0/+6What's cool is these wind farms are built right on top of normal agricultural farms.
- inactive, on 07/29/2008, -0/+6They are ahead of most other states.
- GeauxLSU, on 07/29/2008, -0/+6Most of America's wind power is being collected in Texas (which provides more than 25 percent of the country's wind-generated electricity), the Midwest, and West Coast
and how did that happen??
The Power of Green
The politician who actually proved just how effective this can be was a guy named George W. Bush, when he was governor of Texas. He pushed for and signed a renewable energy portfolio mandate in 1999. The mandate stipulated that Texas power companies had to produce 2,000 new megawatts of electricity from renewables, mostly wind, by 2009.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/15/magazine/15green ... - serif69, on 07/29/2008, -0/+5I'm going to change my name to Crocket B. Snaggletooth and get this ball rolling in NJ.
- wonderworm, on 07/29/2008, -3/+8When you include Interest and all charges, Iraq has actually cost us 4 Trillion now. The official stats try to hide and diminish the costs as much as possible that way American's won't get upset by realizing just how broke Bush's invasion of Saddam has made us.
- SVOboy, on 07/28/2008, -0/+5One of the benefits of wind, I guess, is that unlike nuclear, one bomb can't really make much of a dent in supply (or a cloud of radioactive poison).
- ninjatech123, on 07/29/2008, -0/+518,000MW Holy Jesus!
- orangefly, on 07/29/2008, -1/+5"FREEING IRAQI CHILDREN IS COSTING TOO MUCH!!!"
absolutely baffling how your brain works.... - edd17, on 07/29/2008, -0/+4Well then you should just go ahead and kill yourself because your future actions will surely have some sort of effect on the future..
...actually killing yourself might cause something even worse, you should just stand very still for the rest of your life. - davidryal, on 07/28/2008, -0/+4hey SVOboy, this story's blog source was on the fp less than two days ago:
http://digg.com/environment/Texas_To_Build_Wind_Po ... - Hoogs, on 07/29/2008, -1/+5You win comment of the day.
- serif69, on 07/29/2008, -1/+5There's a difference. Obama talks it. Pickens walks it.
- wright3279, on 07/29/2008, -0/+3How did this story make it to digg? Waste of space! It could have been filled by some more Huffington Post's stories bashing McCain and lauding Obama.
Somebody at the digg controls slipped up! - davidryal, on 07/28/2008, -1/+4nevermind, everyone should know about this story.
- overlyconcerned, on 07/29/2008, -0/+3I'm actually very happy about this. I'm from Lubbock, high school and all, and this is great for electricity costs. The panhandle is a very windy place - I often remember driving by Post and seeing the giant wind farms on the plateaus. More of this is great.
- MojoJonJon, on 07/29/2008, -0/+3lol yea living in Odessa/Midland is not really urban. it's just a bigger small town.
- sacramentalist, on 07/29/2008, -0/+3That's 18 Gigawatts, McFly
- inactive, on 07/29/2008, -2/+5Then again even oil and coal is renewable.
- vladsmiljanic, on 07/28/2008, -3/+6I'm not trusting any of this wind power hype until I hear of a super villain trying to blow the world's supply of wind
- Pic0, on 07/29/2008, -0/+3stop *****
- overlyconcerned, on 07/29/2008, -1/+4It's actually pretty rare for it not to be windy in West Texas.
- pigsbladder, on 07/29/2008, -0/+3I've been seeing huge trucks carrying blades going down the i40 interstate for the last couple of weeks, I'm wondering if they're for this.
- JoeMerchant, on 07/29/2008, -0/+3Yes, but... West Texas is full of out of work ex-oil rig roughnecks, which are just the kind of labor you need when building a turbine tower.
The main thing they are lacking is local customers for the energy, which is why the $5B is being spent on transmission lines.
Payback time on the investment in a turbine (when oil was at $45/bbl) was about 10 years, and they have a 20 to 30 year service life, so for every billion put into turbines today, there will be about 2.5 billion returned in 25 years.... it's a 4% APR for the primary investor, if the average price of oil is $45/barrel over that time. At current energy prices, the ROI is significantly more attractive. - blackpearl, on 07/29/2008, -0/+3I know, I live in Texas and I did not get to vote..... but I am not as important as T Boon.
- pathouston22, on 07/29/2008, -1/+4Wait, somebody is saying something positive about Bush???
- srfrogger, on 07/29/2008, -0/+3El Paso has a population over 700k, but San Antonio's CPS, which provides the area with power, currently purchases energy from the wind farms currently established around the Ft. Stockton area.
So there you go, power could go either way, very easily. - mpdono, on 07/29/2008, -1/+4Texas is too big for Teddy to actually make it to the farm. He'd probably dunk his car into a river somewhere after drinking a bunch of booze.
- handler, on 07/29/2008, -0/+3Holy 6th time it gets on the front page for the same article batman.
- dcmjzero, on 07/29/2008, -1/+4the $5 billion is so they can move the electricity from west texas to the populated areas. none of this money is actually going towards building wind generators. to find this out, you didn't even have to read the article as THIS WAS IN THE DESCRIPTION FOR THE ARTICLE.
you fail at reading comprehension. - inactive, on 07/29/2008, -2/+4You better watch out. When worst comes to worst the republic of texas will be annexing whatever welfare state you live in. At least Texans can have pride that they were not simply handed the state they reside. Thats called pride and you obviously don't have any. I'll save you some typing.....Bush is not a texan he's a yank.
- twojciac, on 07/29/2008, -2/+4I'm a huge fan of wind energy here in Texas, but this is pure *****. Every power customer in Texas will be paying the $5 billion dollars for this private venture to deliver power to its customers. This wasn't done by the legislature, not approved by the taxpayers and/or customers... it was imposed on us by a regulatory commission. So much for no taxation without representation.
- greaseddeafguy, on 07/29/2008, -5/+7wind power is the most inefficient generation we have. Electric rates will skyrocket when they need to ramp up gas powered plants to make up for calm wind days. This nation needs to just build nuke plants and upgrade the transmission lines. Anything short of that will be a huge failure.
- inactive, on 07/29/2008, -0/+2Apparently, the wind farm project near Kennedy's property will proceed...after a short legal wrangling by Kennedy and his ilk.
http://crushliberalism.com/2006/12/20/ted-kennedy- ... - krnldmp, on 07/29/2008, -0/+2"It's a series of tubes".
- EatChex89, on 07/29/2008, -0/+2I thought I was experiencing a DeJa Vu.
Wait a minute... I was. - dcmjzero, on 07/29/2008, -0/+2i guess we should all just stop moving and breathing because it might cause tornadoes. also, you completely misunderstand chaos theory.
- cmdcos7, on 07/29/2008, -1/+3Wind Energy Electricity Production (per capita) (most recent) by state
http://www.statemaster.com/graph/ene_win_ene_ele_p ... - orangefly, on 07/29/2008, -1/+3over and over again....
- blatantninja, on 07/29/2008, -1/+3God Bless Texas!
- Pilot85, on 07/29/2008, -0/+2you're confusing cause and effect. A windmill is POWERED BY the wind. It doesn't add in any significant way to local currents, it is powered by them.
- Murfshay22, on 07/29/2008, -0/+2Did they ever approve the wind farm in MA? I thought it was approved, but I could be mistaken. I remember Kennedy saying he didn't like the idea and Kerry saying he would wait for the environmental impact reports.
- pathouston22, on 07/29/2008, -0/+2The Electric Reliability Council of Texas operates the electric grid and manages the deregulated market for 75 percent of the state.
http://www.ercot.com/
Has all the numbers of available and used power on the Texas grid. -
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