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- inactive, on 01/10/2009, -2/+11It is all about environment issues. They must obey it or they will have problem.
- envi99, on 01/10/2009, -1/+10On the other had cities are doing their best to promote e-waste recycling. For instance, Oregon and Washington States have started their own e-waste recycling programs and they are doing quite well. Read:
http://www.yellowsandblues.com/postDetail.php?id=3 ... - cuoops, on 01/10/2009, -0/+6And most of it goes to China, to one of the most toxic places on Earth - http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/11/06/60minute ...
- Myztry, on 01/10/2009, -0/+6We run a multi-million dollar recycling firm, and sorry to tell you but most of that electronics material is going to rubbish. Even common easy materials like newspaper are often dumped as they can only be percentage mixed with virgin pulp.
It's simply not practical to separate all the material components out as required. Ceramics inside a glass melt will produce a reject glass. Plastics like PVC burn at HDPE temperatures and release acids.
Any recycling in the western world will involve simply shredding the components, and then using mechanized means to separate them (magnetic, float, spin, etc). Very crude but labor (and a mind to go with it) is too expensive.
China is a different matter. They just throw cheap man power at the sorting issue. A friend of the business used to extract copper from out of date telephony cables. Lost his supply when the Chinese purchased all available cabling.
They manually cut and sorted into lengths/grades for use in electrical toys and the like. Probably a better way to recycle. But you just can't do that in Western countries due to labor costs and industrial laws.
You can still legal buy all those things back regardless of the processing methods though.
- tmohan26, on 01/10/2009, -0/+5Sounds like somewhere deep in the deserts all cell phones would be piled up as mountains.
- lolupissed, on 01/10/2009, -0/+4That was a well done newspeice. It is a shame that there are business men like that guy in the video that lies to the public when he says that he doesn't ship to China (and makes it an advertising point). He should be thrown in jail
- Technopundit, on 01/10/2009, -0/+4The real shame is that probably half the monitors in that picture most likely work just fine. They were replaced just to save a little desk space in favor of an LCD.
- Linake, on 01/10/2009, -0/+4Random observation, but you can really tell which monitors belonged to heavy smokers. There are two pretty bad ones in there :P
- MarkusX, on 01/10/2009, -2/+5Finally it pays off to have paid Sony all that extra money for the last years/TVs.
It seems they do something good with it, too - Swivelstick, on 01/10/2009, -1/+4All goods that create waste have to have the price factored into production (remove "externalities") so that producer will look at more environmentally friendly ways of producing not just the product but packaging and transport. Until that time there is no incentive for them to do anything. I'm sure many will say that is impossible or costs will increase dramatically but we have finite resources and the sooner this is taken aboard the better of we will be.
- spiderman222, on 01/10/2009, -1/+4Sony is always given a bad rap because their stuff is more expensive. The truth is, they are leaders in R and D that everyone else follows. Plus, they don't cut corners...which is evident here. If companies cut corners in development (ie using crappy parts), imagine how they cut corners in recycling waste!
- alep85, on 01/10/2009, -0/+3It all depends on the process. Simply labeling recycling as being more polluting than not is like saying all hamburgers in every restaurant taste the same....
Research is fine, but you might want to check those "sources". - dandandantheman, on 01/10/2009, -0/+3They don't do it because they care. It's all about the PR and maximizing profits. If putting up a front that shows that they care about recycling translates to better public image and thus better profits, that's all that matters. A fictional, imaginary, legal entity (corporation) takes no side when it comes to the environment. The end result is all the waste, destruction, and utter disregard for LIFE that we have seen for many decades now.
It's like the cookie monster - but instead of cookies, all it wants is money.
If corporations were not legally considered persons with constitutional human rights, and the public had a much more central role in the doings of these giants, we'd have more control and thus more responsibility would be on us to safeguard our own futures. Now, we sit and wait for corporations to give us the world (which they do, they literally rape the earth to make massive amounts of products) so that we can sit at home comfortably and enjoy a lifestyle of next-to-zero responsibility for the ***** we have.
Are corporations necessary? Sure.. But they used to start off by way of a public charter, and were not private. Now they are quite private. They are public insofar as it is necessary for public image. They are private to the extent that is possible in order to plot and plan what they must to optimize profits. When nobody has responsibility (limited liability), you can't really expect that a corporation is going to put LIFE before profits.
This puts things in perspective about the industrial process: http://www.storyofstuff.com - Finalreminder, on 01/10/2009, -0/+3Pick your junk.
Want to extract the platinum and Gold from circuit boards? It's a highly intensive and polluting process involving an end product of thousands of gallons of toxic waste including arsenic, cyanide, brass ash, etc.
How about paper? Just the amount of diesel (collection) water, electricity, rubber (processing) and alloys, electric, water and oil (to manufacture recycling systems) used completely negates recycling.
It's a gimmick that government and corporations use because it makes the public think they're being green when they aren't.
It's actually greener to just bury it. - cowninja, on 01/10/2009, -0/+3I gave away all my old stuff (including 5 21" Sun monitors) on Freecycle. More info here: http://www.freecycle.org/
- cfrog7, on 01/10/2009, -1/+3eWaste is simply too big an issue to ignore anymore, for everyone.
if you haven't you should watch this scary but eye-opening video about villages in China, where much of our eWaste goes to
http://current.com/items/76355482/toxic_villages.h ...
then there is the spectacular imagery of Chris Jordan detailing consumption, such as the 426,000 cell phones the U.S. Retires every day
http://www.chrisjordan.com/
but there is movement about what to do with old electronic waste.
There was a group of students at Carnegie Mellon looking to create an online portal called ePanacea, where individuals can use to safely ship and monitor eWaste and track that it doesn't end up in the toxic villages of India, China, Africa, and South America.
http://www.cmu.edu/homepage/practical/2008/summer/ ...
for shipping stuff, the USPS has partnered with Clover recycling in order collect eWaste for free or minimal shipping costs.
http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/the-us-postal-s ...
Personally I think we could still use many old computers and components to create education programs in our communities, such as at
Colleges, Libraries, and Museums, where we can just display old computers. Our population is increasingly dependent on technology, but the majority of us have never even opened up a computer. Instead of just shipping away eWaste we should use it for education before recycling it. It could be a community building event. - jvanasselberg, on 01/10/2009, -0/+2I work for a metal recycling company in North Michigan. This stuff can be recycled & there is good money in it!!! I hope to get this end up & going completely by 2010. Go to www.stirlingbiopower.com
- tgc1, on 01/10/2009, -0/+2Guess what. They are going to continue to do nothing about it. And when the public demands that they do, the cost will be passed on to you. They are NEVER, EVER going to eat that sort of a cost. So be careful what you wish for.
Also, in Canada we are having some new legislation coming through on the 22nd which is going to implement just this sort of measure. And yes, we tax payers are all on the hook for it already. But what's more, an environmental fee (tax) is going to be added to future electronics and certain other products which require recycling (ie. oil, filters, air conditioners etc) at the retail level, at the time of purchase. Fees i've already seen on my bills.
In my view it's kind of a double dip on the governments part. But I don't know what can be done about it now, as i've spent a day of my time last week talking to various government groups, regulatory bodies and so on trying to get a straight answer out of them. Much to no avail. - adkenc, on 01/10/2009, -0/+2http://raleigh.craigslist.org/
try the pc section, free section, or wanted section - brb1031, on 01/12/2009, -0/+1I've scavenged PCs from a smoker. Case was full of accumulated smoke-dust, had a nauseous headache for hours.
- slapthemonkey, on 01/12/2009, -0/+1It should be mandatory for producers to provide for recycling in their units
- themoop, on 01/10/2009, -4/+5That article said nothing, really not worthy of a front page
- inactive, on 01/10/2009, -0/+1What I want to know is where can I go in Raleigh NC to rummage around in bins of discarded computer equipment? Back around '98 I used to find tons of stuff in dumpsters, nowadays I find almost nothing and I still regularly hit the cans. I keep hearing about gigantic mounds of equipment nobody wants, where the hell can I find one?
- hpausch, on 08/19/2009, -0/+0There are very easy, non-burdening ways to get rid of e-waste. There are a lot of companies that will happily take e-waste off of your hands at their own expense whether it's them paying you, them picking up the waste, and of course paying for it to be properly recycled/disposed of.
When it comes to television screens you can actually have these recycled for medical use. They can be reused to create medical dressings, pill coating, and even tissue scaffolds.
http://www.ecoworld.com/recycling-waste/television ...
Also this is a company this will happily take e-waste off your hands and put money in your pocket: http://www.ecoworld.com/recycling-waste/make-money ... - inactive, on 02/04/2009, -0/+0It's going to get to a point where people are going to be throwing away perfectly fine LCDs because they want a bigger screen. Companies need to prepare for the large amount of ewaste in the future.
- tjsteven, on 02/06/2009, -0/+0I believe there are many e-waste recyclers in India but most of them are into partial recycling, wherein they just dismantle and segregate the IT equipments. And the company that I work for - Attero Recyling Pvt. Ltd is into ene-to-end recycling with zero landfill.
Regards,
Steven
www.attero.co.in - Aanidaani, on 01/10/2009, -5/+4What a stupid article. This has no useful information whatsoever.
- Finalreminder, on 01/10/2009, -4/+3Recyclying just increases the pollution, not lessens it.
But then I research these things instead of follwing the herd.
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