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- wipis, on 12/30/2008, -0/+4If we are going to survive we need to invest now not later. So the prices never spike like that again. Or better yet we get off of gas. Getting away from gas is going to take a long time so it doesn't matter what things are like now so we need to get started.
- reyalp, on 12/30/2008, -0/+2Obama was going to fund all of this with an oil windfall profits tax, which everyone knew was a bunch of crap anyway.
- ScubaShneve, on 12/30/2008, -2/+4This article is fail. Make a list when people actually do something...
- murrdpirate, on 12/30/2008, -0/+2Russell, I'm not saying we should never invest in alternative energy. Private industry is and has been investing in alternative energy for decades. How is this even a government role? It really shouldn't be, but the reason that Obama wanted to commit tax dollars to research is because of how rapidly gas prices were increasing. I guess he thought that the private sector needed help to get new technology out in time.
My stance is that we shouldn't consider using taxes to fund this stuff until we have reason to believe that the private sector is not going to be able to provide us with alternatives before gas gets way too expensive. If we can anticipate that, then lets go for it. But there is no reason to anticipate ridiculously high gas prices in the near future; we may have decades of cheap gas to go (and centuries of cheap coal). - inactive, on 12/30/2008, -0/+1No, I didn't miss your point.
These people did do something, whether you like them or not. - inactive, on 12/30/2008, -0/+1Well, those are all rhetorical questions. I'm talking on smaller scale investments, companies have proven that alternative energy is economically sound.
Whether the government makes the right decisions is a different argument. - envi99, on 01/02/2009, -0/+1On a smaller scale how about people like Kenichi Horie who set a world record by completing a 4,000 miles solo voyage across the Pacific in a boat propelled by Wave Power showing the world that alternative energy like wave can be applied in day-day operations.
http://www.yellowsandblues.com/postDetail.php?id=2 ...
And also people like Louis Palmer who completed a trip around the world in Solar Taxi that showed the world that solutions for global warming are available and that renewable energies can create new jobs and a sustainable future.
http://www.yellowsandblues.com/postDetail.php?id=2 ... - 0insane1, on 12/30/2008, -0/+1can we have fusion please.. pretty please?
- TheUngod, on 12/30/2008, -0/+1We already do. It just isn't viable since the output is lower than the input. You want COLD fusion.
- inactive, on 12/30/2008, -1/+2Yeah hopefully,
because he's smart, and smart people know that gas will go back up.
Dumbass retarded people think that just because it goes down, we can forget all about conservation.
Alternative energy returns its investment over a period of time. As long as the planning is good, alternative energy ends up making money in the long run, but people aren't interested in the long run, they are interested in making money instantly.
And that is stupid. - TheUngod, on 12/30/2008, -0/+1As long as they're not in the womb they're fair game.
- inactive, on 12/30/2008, -1/+2You're right, we shouldn't praise people who work to conserve the earth we live on. That's just STUPID!
We need to spend all of our time and money doing things that MATTER!
Like... umm.... you know... like making money, and like drilling for oil and stuff, and like going to war and shooting guns, because that's stuff that REALLY matters. - angusm, on 12/30/2008, -2/+2Is Sarah Palin still chanting "Drill, baby, drill" in her bathroom mirror, now that the sudden fall in oil prices has confirmed that the day-to-day price of oil has almost nothing to do with limited resources and everything to do with speculation and price-fixing?
- asdfgafawer3, on 12/30/2008, -2/+2Let's wait to invest in alternative energy when the gas prices are back up again.
- inactive, on 12/30/2008, -2/+2Palin= Enviro-Hitler
- murrdpirate, on 12/30/2008, -3/+3Is Obama still going to invest $15 billion a year in alternative energy now that gas prices are the lowest they've been in 5 years and we're in the worst recession in over 50?
- inactive, on 12/30/2008, -1/+1Hey newflash,
fossil fuels RUN OUT!
Its all fine and dandy that you don't give a ***** about people after you die, but most people do.
Not only is it economically wise to invest in something that will actually RETURN to you, but it is ecologically sound as well.
The point isn't thinking whether or not gas will go back up or not, its the point where we need to stop relying on gas so much because it won't be around forever. - murrdpirate, on 12/30/2008, -0/+0I respectfully disagree. The historical prices of fossil fuels have been very stable, the extreme increases we saw this past year are a blip on the radar. This is also true for home prices. Houses have had a historically flat price, just barely outpacing inflation, the boom from the late 90's to 2005 was a blip on the radar. The reason I bring up home prices is to show that bubbles happen because of speculation, not supply and demand. Everyone seems to think that oil is only cheap now because of the global recession, and that once we get out of it they'll shoot back up. It's true that the recession has an impact, but the main reason prices went up so much is speculation, so they may not go that high again (like houses).
If we can reasonably predict that fuel prices will go back up, I'd agree with you that we need to start preparations now. But you can't simply point at gas prices this past summer and say it's gonna happen again (they'd have to go even higher than that for alternative energy to make economical sense). Until then, I say let the market figure it out; research will still take place. - derekmas10, on 12/30/2008, -1/+1This had the most impact of any reply I have ever read on Digg.
***** man, what an analogy - beautiful. - inactive, on 12/30/2008, -1/+1More like Environmental Noisemakers. Weird All Gore (thx punx)? Jim "Tipping Point" Hansen? Sarah Palin is a good choice. She is a fine conservative and she ain't hard to look at.
- derekmas10, on 12/30/2008, -1/+1I thought Palin was chantin "Kill babies! Kill!"
coz she's evil like that. - melonhedd, on 12/31/2008, -1/+1How can an article be a verb?
- murrdpirate, on 12/30/2008, -0/+0Smart people know that gas will go back up and dumbass retarded people think they don't have to worry now that it's down?
If you looked at the inflation-adjusted price of oil over the last century, you would see something like this:
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A smart person would see the high gas prices as an anomaly.
If alternative energy returns its investment, why can't the market handle it? Why does the government have to get involved? As long as the planning is good? Hahaha, that's a pretty big stipulation. Since when does the government have the ability to do anything that isn't a complete waste of money? - ScubaShneve, on 12/30/2008, -1/+1Good job of missing my point...
- inactive, on 12/30/2008, -4/+24 out of 5 people have made (or attempted to make) a positive change to our environment, I don't think Palin belongs on that list; ignorance shouldn't be celebrated
- asdfgafawer3, on 12/30/2008, -4/+3It's newsmakers, not a best of list. Kind of how like Hitler was man of the year.
- mcnees287, on 12/30/2008, -2/+0Wen i get home i am going to open all of my windows and turn my heat all the way up. just because i had to read your dumb ass comment.
- asdfgafawer3, on 12/30/2008, -2/+0I was comparing the qualifications for recognition, not the people. If you want to make that comparison feel free.
- mcnees287, on 12/30/2008, -2/+0GET THE ***** TO MARS!!!
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