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- wes00mertes, on 10/11/2007, -3/+58I get it, camouflaged skyscrapers. In your face terrorists.
- moosepile, on 10/11/2007, -5/+33And in other news, Toronto Police undertook the biggest search for a grow-op in history.
- BrainInAJar, on 10/11/2007, -8/+34sliced bread was a terrible idea.
you either get prematurely stale bread, or you get gross flavourless preservative-laden sponge bread - knowltonj, on 10/11/2007, -0/+19food pyramid?
nah.
food skyscraper?
yes. - murdockat, on 10/11/2007, -2/+15It's amusing to see a bunch of computer people commenting on the best way to run a farm.
- diggydougie, on 10/11/2007, -3/+15That's the whole point! Plants counteract pollution and clean the air.
- VeritasAequitas, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13umm so there's going to be chickens eh? has anyone on here ever actually smelled a chicken farm? better yet has the designer ever smelled a chicken farm?
- pyry, on 10/11/2007, -2/+13Wouldn't pollution interact with the quality of whatever is produced from such a farm in the middle of the city? I mean, I wouldn't put that thing in LA, but when any city has a few relatively windless days, things don't look or smell pretty.
- ChzPlz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11nah - just go for sky crop rotation. Legumes fix nitrogen. Not as in "the nitrogen is broken" - as in pull it out of the air and convert it into a soluble form.
- Bhima, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11There are a couple of other designs here: http://www.verticalfarm.com/
I think this is greatest idea since sliced bread. - gavroche, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9Plants love CO2, you dont.
- AntBing, on 10/11/2007, -3/+12@arunforce
It would bring a whole new meaning to getting high. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -6/+14CAN WE ***** FIX BASIC ***** FIRST?
The TTC is going bankrupt
Traffic is bad
Pollution keeps rising
Roads are in ***** shape
ect... - tadv211, on 10/11/2007, -3/+11@ Punjabi4Lyfe
Canadian police use cars, too, you know. Though you're right, we probably couldn't preform a proper beat down like American cops. Less practice with the lower crime rates, and such... - graviplana, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8An excellent idea. I wonder what the pollution levels are there? *Searches Web* Hmm, it appears Toronto has a big problem with pollution. This could really help to change that.
- ironrex, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7Different people work on different things. You cant just take all the biologists and agricultural science people working on this idea and tell them to fix traffic.
- zyl0x, on 10/11/2007, -2/+8Mmmm, poison vegetables. Isn't this like, the opposite of organic?
- detroitsux, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Because the movie theatres are hogging up all the darkness and shade from the environment. Darkness is a dwindling resource, don't you know.
/s - chocolatespoon, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5@ cawpin
Uh...yea-they do--but not for a long time. It's called fertilizer. - AntBing, on 10/11/2007, -4/+9Yes, but you can still buy it unsliced just as not every building will be a farm. Both ideas have their place.
- citruspastels, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5this is a great idea and i firmly believe this is the future of farming as oil prices force local solutions to food transportation. however, why is it right smack dab in the middle of the city? as was said above, fertilizer will make it smell awful, and the transportation of the food needs to be considered at the street level. this would be much better placed on the outskirts of the city.
- spyrochaete, on 10/11/2007, -6/+10"What about the smell?"
That's a very good point. Downtown Toronto has become smoggy in recent summers. I wouldn't touch produce that's been festering in stagnant, yellow air for weeks. - MikeonTV, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5Wow those tomatoes are great. Is that Toronto smog I taste? Wow, these must have been picked in July.
- lavoie0ca, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6ever heard of fertilizer? hydroponics? grow a brain, jackass.
- thatguyernie, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3If I could be the one to pick the tomatoes during a windy day then "I say do it"
- graemee, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Hemp is legal, but controlled. Background checks, testing of crop for whatever MJ has.
BTW I'm building a taller skyscraper just east of this one. Call me Mr. Burns - ironrex, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3They're proposing to capture the methane and use it for energy, so they probably have some sort of smell containment plan I would hope. Also, putting this in the middle of a city could help absorb the carbon dioxide coming out of the cars below.
- musters, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Here is your TTC
http://www.thestar.com/News/article/225858
17 Billion bucks coming to the GTA - TheLD, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2At least the building will be carbon neutral so even if you don't harvest the crops, it will still be useful
- shanealeslie, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2As someone that lives and works in the downtown core of Toronto, I support the idea - but it needs to be implemented in stages.
I think they should retrofit as many towers and rooftops as possible to have the 'planter panels', seed them with a non-food crop of plants that extract smog and pollutants from the air and release lots of clean air. Throw in solar panels and wind turbines at the tops of the towers for the pumping system, and feed treated biomass from the municipal sewage system, and the organic recycling programs into the system to feed it. Once we have the pollution under control, then start in on food crops. - obixx, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3I am a Canadian who lives in Toronto. My comment was poking fun at the people who when anytime a Canadian city is mentioned they feel the need to bring hockey into it, which further adds to the stereotype that that's all us Canadians care about.
- ironrex, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I'd like to go a step farther and re-create actual ecosystems in our cities. There could by huge buildings like that one in addition to habitats on every rooftop, connected by bridge tunnels. You could enter the habitat and walk around. Toronto's could be safari based, watch out for roof tigers!
- ChromaVita, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3If i'm not mistaken, wouldn't the building be more of one time fee, with a lower maintenance fee, While sustaining a farm, and shipping all of the harvest to wherever it needs to be shipped seems like it would be less of a down payment, and more of an annual thing. It seems like over time the building becomes the better investment, and the advantages would only increase as the size of non-rural land decreased...
- jessicass, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I think the idea is decent enough.. I am just left wondering who did those snazzy MS Paint graphics on the image..
- spyrochaete, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Sky-o-dome!!!
- willemk, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3There are also computer people who live on farms. I pimp my tractor.
- Goombellaofgoom, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Inorganic veggies?
- Todesengelvr6, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Last thing I want, is to get hit by an eggplant falling hundreds of feet.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1If buildings / homes / businesses were all underground, then you could farm anywhere you wanted.
This would also avoid tornado, rain, hail, lightening, fire, flood (if done properly), various weathering and other forms of damage to homes. Homes would cost slightly more to build but would last forever.
I am not a tree hugger by any stretch of the imagination, but I can only imaging this would eliminate the need for building houses out of wood. If houses lasted forever, you build once and pass-on or sell to others.
Underground homes and businesses would eliminate most parking problems and would also pave the way for landing area's for future flying vehicles (not as far away as you think).
Let's see how many humans are open to this idea. :-P - Chupathingy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1"as God is my witness...I thought turkeys could fly"
- arjie, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1The name reminds me of Legend of Gaia and Netstorm.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2@chzplz
which is what i meant, you still have to substitue your corn or w/e for beans or something so you still wouldnt produce as much
@lavoie0ca
it doesn't matter how much fertiziler you use, if u over use the soil it WILL start to lose nutrients and become lower grade. - postapoc, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1This could combined nicely with the solar tower idea. By capturing the heat that is produced on each floor, and routing into a central vertical corridor, convection could be harnessed to power turbines and create power.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1if u dont know what crop rotation is then dont comment
- MatttK, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Too expensive to set up a grow-up downtown.. better to go find an abandoned Molson's plant on the 400.
- pyry, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1It's not just CO2 you should be worried about. More crap in the city air than that.
- spyrochaete, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Wouldn't the oxygen/CO2 exchange increase the heat of the building?
- spyrochaete, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Funding mass transit would clean up the air, relieve traffic, and reduce road maintenance. Then we wouldn't need to grow carrots on buildings. The TTC deserves huge federal and provincial funding.
- manicjunkee, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I like how people give you negative feed back for pointing out practical flaws...but then again that is how extremists roll I guess. Crop rotation? What is that? We don't need that....Soil doesn't get depleted of nutrients. I'm all for cleaning the air but this seems almost impractical.
- danarama, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1not going to happen but i hope and wish it happens in toronto or every other major city
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