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- socialpyramid, on 06/02/2008, -3/+36Let's hope the technology doesn't get bought up by the likes of Big Oil and quietly shelved
- smartcause, on 06/02/2008, -0/+22This is good news...but like all good news in the electric car arena, it's not going to be in an affordable electric car for at least five years. I'd get in my time machine and skip to 2013 to get an electric car...but unfortunately my time machine is a DeLorean and I can't afford the gas.
- booshack, on 06/03/2008, -0/+7If I cared about claims of new battery technologies, I wouldn't give a rats ass about this because then I would care about EEstor. Super dielectric ultracapapacitors ftw! Ultracapacitor is a a cooler word than superlattice anyway.
- MadOgre, on 06/03/2008, -0/+6Nice battery... I want one for my Laptop, please.
Wake me up when cars have a Mr. Fusion conversion. - Blandyman, on 06/03/2008, -1/+7Yeah, lets put it in a laptop so we can play WoW at Starbucks more or in our cells so we can talk away our anytime minutes earlier in the month.
Instead of putting it in a car and stopping our dependence on oil.
I see where you're coming from for a "that'd be nice" perspective, but let's keep our thoughts on where it's really needed right now, you know? - londubh, on 06/03/2008, -0/+6You mean like they did with the Nickel Metal Hydrides made by Ovonics?
- TopherT, on 06/03/2008, -0/+6Ummm. why exactly can't we have both?
- mantis108, on 06/03/2008, -0/+5I'd liike to hear a comparison of this technology to EEStor's. I also wonder if and when either of these will be actually showing up at a reasonable price in production EVs. One thing that's for sure is that EV proponents are fairly sick and tired of a market full of failed promises and non-delivered products and technologies.. can anyone say ZAP?
- Consh, on 06/03/2008, -0/+4I'm skeptical about how much of a 'breakthrough' this is. If it ends up being what the article chocks it up to be, that's fantastic, but as far as I know (which isn't much to be truthful) the main concerns of a PHEV battery are range, weight, size and expense. If I can see some confirmation of the wide range of factors needed for this to be successful maybe I can welcome the news with open arms.
Companies are always ready to hype their technology, even if they are years away from a workable product. - palehorse864, on 06/03/2008, -0/+4Smartcause, just steal some from the Libyans. What could go wrong?
- Ramble, on 06/03/2008, -0/+4Because everyone knows only one battery will be made.
- Mootabolife, on 06/03/2008, -0/+4It's all in your head dude. There is no army of the 12 Monkeys, and you're not really a soldier from the future sent to fight the terminators.
- AgmLauncher, on 06/03/2008, -0/+4News flash, the Tesla Roadster already gets 200+ miles.
- compulsive1, on 06/03/2008, -0/+3"a successful move toward development of a new cathode material,.... "
It's just a teaser for potential investors.
Nothing is actually developed- the company only made a move toward development of a new technology.
Just about any one can make such vague statement and be technically truthful.
A real breakthrough will come fully developed and ready for purchase. Hopefully sooner than later. - dagamer34, on 06/03/2008, -0/+3We'll just digg you down.
- Photokon, on 06/03/2008, -0/+3That isn't a hurdle. We can have electric cars and afterwards worry about the power plants. We shouldn't stop the movement to electric based on the current power system, because alternatives are picking up steam as a viable alternative.
Furthermore, one can put solar on their home or even a wind generator if you live in the sticks. - dasmonki, on 06/03/2008, -0/+3hahahaha wow this really happens in real life huh?
- SiXiam, on 06/03/2008, -0/+2I'd settle for an affordable 80 mile (128 kilometer) range Chevy Volt...
- qwertydvorak, on 06/03/2008, -0/+2Superlattice Ultracapacitor !
- murraj2, on 06/03/2008, -3/+5Cars would be nice, but laptops, cell phones and other portables would be even better. Especially with increased bandwidth wireless devices which consume more power.
- wonderworm, on 06/03/2008, -0/+2Key words that everyone missed about this "press release".
"announces a successful move toward development "
That's like saying the surge is a successful move towards winning in Iraq.
Seems us poor diggers are now being used in stock scams for penny stocks like this one. - Khast, on 06/03/2008, -1/+3Nano Technology batteries sound like they are going to be better, when they actually develop a working prototype. (The theory sounds almost like perpetual energy...well not, but as close as one can possibly get.)
However, battery technology is undergoing a much needed boost by the automotive industry. Lithium Ion Polymer batteries was an enormous jump in technology 5 years ago, when Palm started using them in their IIIc models. What the future holds, is anyone's guess. - wassim2k, on 06/03/2008, -0/+2yawn. another month, another false claim by an unknown company that seeks attention.
- p3ngwin, on 06/03/2008, -1/+3not economically viable? no consumer desire?
so you think it's good to have an idea, but ***** it up because you can make short term money pandering to idiot consumers ?
you think anything is economic at first? you make it...THEN you make it cheaper...you have to start somewhere! where the ***** do you think oil pipelines and infrastructure came from? they were STARTED, and then got cheaper.
if you have a better idea, it is NEVER too late or expensive to do it....look what continuing a bad idea got us...war, ***** up economies in USA.......all because there was a better way, but not taken because there was short term money to be made. NOW YOU PAY FOR THAT MISTAKE - apeweek, on 06/03/2008, -0/+2You might be interested in a used EV, or an EV conversion, both of which can be had relatively cheaply. Here are some used ones: http://www.austinev.org/evtradinpost/index.php?met ...
- apeweek, on 06/03/2008, -0/+2Coal doesn't matter. EVs are much more efficient - more miles on less fuel equals less pollution, no matter what you burn. Some proof:
http://www.electric-cars-are-for-girls.com/electri ...
actual study: http://www.energy.ca.gov/papers/CEC-999-1996-015.P ...
"...in a study conducted by the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power, EVs were significantly cleaner over the course of 100,000 miles than ICE cars. The electricity generation process produces less than 100 pounds of pollutants for EVs compared to 3000 pounds for ICE vehicles." - fooljoe, on 06/03/2008, -0/+2I'm so tired of all these press releases about wonder batteries that are just on the horizon; all this does is distract us from the fact that there are perfectly good batteries powering EVs over 100 miles a charge on a daily basis, yet no automaker will produce and sell these cars now, when we need them more than ever. this is PR fluff, not news. talk to me when I can actually buy the batteries. http://evnut.com/rav.htm
- apeweek, on 06/03/2008, -0/+2Your points:
-Not economically viable, price sucks: Electric cars can be made as cheaply as gas cars, with mass production. I drive one of the few mass-produced EVs, a "Jet Industries Electra Van", made back in 1981, that sold for $7999 (comparable price to other cars of the day.) Incidentally, it still runs fine (with all the original motor parts) and does freeway speeds.
-Not desirable to consumers: Marketing studies show otherwise. GM's EV-1 had a waiting list of 5,000 people - for a car that was only available in one corner of the country. Scale that demand up to the world, and we're talking 100,000 cars - or lots more if a real marketing campaign had been launched.
-Battery tech sucks, range is terrible: With NIMH batteries, the EV1 could go over 125 miles per charge, and the few surviving NIMH-powered EVs from that era are still running today, with over 100,000 miles on the battery packs. EV NIMHs were game-changing technology, which is why an oil company bought the patents and pulled the EV-sized batteries from the marketplace. - vosik, on 06/03/2008, -0/+2Looks like nano-tech has its first impact on the batteries industry. Annouced yesterday by Hitachi maxell:
http://digg.com/tech_news/Hitachi_Maxell_claims_ne ...
Expected to be mass produced in 3-4 years from now - drivin98, on 06/04/2008, -0/+1This version of the story offers a bit more skepticism, http://www.autobloggreen.com/2008/06/03/superlatti ...
- LokitheComplex, on 06/03/2008, -0/+1Yeah but we could have had at earlier if we'd had some leadership over this rather waiting for the crisis.
- Culyt, on 06/03/2008, -1/+2The why exactly are you posting this to what is effectively liberal media?
This is just a massively piss poor attempt to emulate the Obama/Ron Paul social networking, except most people on these sites are liberal so it will never go anywhere.
In the end the Digg users them selfs will 'censor' you.
☢ - darkciti2, on 06/03/2008, -0/+1Release the information! If it's real, many business models will arise to support your research. The only thing keeping humankind grounded is the corporate stranglehold on science and information.
Bring it forth for the betterment of all mankind! - warriorscot, on 06/03/2008, -0/+1Big Oil developed most of the green technologies we use today, hell even Big Oil is getting out of oil these days.
You would be truly surprised at how much technology that we hail as miracles of green was developed by an oil company, The first department for renewable research was with an Oil company one of the biggest and they still do most of the research into the technology and spend allot of money implementing it and buying it up.
You are talking about companies run by engineers, and not just any engineers but the best ones, the ones with the best balance between theoretical knowledge and practical application who strive for maximum efficiency and safety in everything. Big Oil isn't Big Oil it is Big Energy and they don't care what they make the money from that is why they buy allot of potential technologies and if they don't take it to market it means it was either prohibitively expensive or just didn't work. They understand what Finite means, the two biggest research types they do are how to maximise the finite resource and replacing the Finite with the infinite and turning a buck from it. - inactive, on 06/03/2008, -0/+1Sweet! Now Calacanis can drive through my town!
- JettaMan, on 06/03/2008, -1/+1Ease up there psycho. Consumers are not idiots, they buy what best suits their needs and resources. And no, they made no economic sense for a *long* time. Only recently have they become desirable due to high oil prices. The free market is now churning them out.
- Amazetbm, on 06/03/2008, -1/+1You're a person who actually looks at the big picture...one who actually looks at the whole picture I made my statement knowing that the average American doesn't think like that...if it isn't plug-in play. And if they're getting an electric car for global warming issues they're actually defeating their own purpose.
There are still a good percentage of well to do folks who would buy an electric car and not think about supplementing their home electricity with an alternative source. They'll just buy the thing and plug it in. These are the same type of folks who buy HDTV, without having an HD receiver or buying an HDMI cable then get pissed because they're still getting a standard definition image. - ousthouse, on 06/03/2008, -4/+3This is exciting. Usually when new lithium based cathode materials are used to produced superlattice ultracapacitors to consume the dielectric, the oxidation point of the cathater becomes compromised... just kidding, I just used a bunch of words you smarter guys just used. I don't what any of this crap means.
- Amazetbm, on 06/03/2008, -2/+1"The biggest hurdle facing widespread adoption of the electric car industry has been battery technology."
The other big hurdle is over 50% of America's power grid still run by CO2 belching, coal fired plants. - inactive, on 06/03/2008, -1/+0
Try this …. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHCF_ajYkng - zfolwick, on 06/04/2008, -1/+0owned
- zfolwick, on 06/04/2008, -1/+0>>consumers are not idiots
Yes... they are. If people were actually informed about the decisions they made, or made their decisions rationally, then our economy would be far worse than it is today.
eg: "the best thing the average American can do to thwart terrorists is to go out and buy". -GWBush - tito13kfm, on 06/03/2008, -5/+4Dude, you're making other replubicans look bad. Shut up.
You're almost as bad as the Paulites. - inactive, on 06/03/2008, -2/+0World's most popular news!!!!!
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- JettaMan, on 06/03/2008, -8/+3Having fun playing make believe, kiddies? The truth is there was no conspiracy to stop the electric car. It just wasn't economically viable or desirable to consumers until recently with gas prices. The electric car is now unstoppable, but I certainly would not have bought one in the 1990's. The battery technology sucked, the range was terrible, the price was prohibitive for the actual car.
- inactive, on 06/03/2008, -6/+0 With extremely high gas prices straining consumers pockets in recent months, it is only natural for people to wonder where all the money they pay at the pump goes..I install fuel saver on my car after i found this web site..
http://fuel-savermagnetic.blogspot.com/ - inactive, on 06/03/2008, -10/+1***** electric. Low MPG ICE SUV's FTW!!!
- inactive, on 06/03/2008, -19/+1John McCain will put the national interest ahead of partisanship, he will work with anyone who sincerely wants to get this country moving again. If John McCain is elected President, the era of the permanent campaign will end. The era of problem solving will begin.
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