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- MorganMghee, on 11/25/2008, -2/+16cool, but I was expecting a bigger number.
- SheilaNoya, on 11/26/2008, -0/+9L.A. is a hell of a lot bigger than San Francisco, so you shouldn't assume that 10% of the power is the same for both cities. We also have a lot more sunny days than San Francisco.
Either way, it's nice to see California taking this seriously and acting on it. - jodimcmullen, on 11/25/2008, -2/+11Me too, and by a closer date.
- Observant1, on 11/25/2008, -1/+9lets see.. 4.3 trillion divided by 200 million is 21,500 each. more than enough to put solar and wind power on every rooftop saving everyone over 1,000 every year. GM could go into producing permanent magnet versions of their own alternators for small windmills (for less than small aftermarket companies do) and might not need a bailout, someone(s) mass producing grid-feed inverters, so battery storage is not required, brings the price of inverters down. the surplus energy would pay for servicing and replacements. "carbon footprint" is reduced and no need for the whole ***** carbon tax. Geothermal power could replace the nuclear power plants so we arent running around throwing depleted uranium at each other, Iran could have electricity without a potential for nuclear weapons and Israel could maybe STFU with their fear mongering threats about it, if the US were to able show them the program. big foreign corporations want US land to build MEGA-WINDMILLS and charge us for the electricity, and that kind of idea gets approval with eminent domain land seizure, gee thanks?
big energy isnt gonna go out of business or stop making money if all the homes producing power are grid connected, they're going to need more service techs to maintain it. so theres manufacturing, installation, maintenance, JOBS.. always means taxes and profits doesnt it?
$1000 a year saved by 200 million homes is 2 trillion dollars, the government will end up with half of it anyway, it is what they do.
its a better solution than what these thieving looters are doing. power to the people.
we'd be "going green" and creating tons of work doing it instead of doing nothing and carbon taxing the people while looting an already bankrupt treasury. 4 billion invested returning a billion every year for many many years (life expectancy of solar cells about 20-25 years) while giving cleaner power to BE productive with. it makes a lot more sense than a bunch of illiterate non-productive "youth brigades" running around, they could learn some real skills instead. manufacturers could have electricity very cheap, more production and profit is more taxes, every time. decentralized electric power also means less power failures, especially with some storage cells added later. one bomb wouldnt be wiping out a nuclear power plant and knocking all the power out, so wouldnt doing this take away terrorist targets? theres a few reasons why to go all out with it. - inactive, on 11/26/2008, -1/+8I'm beginning to think that Villaraigosa is all hair and no policy, he's more of an LA machine politician than a true Democrat.
10% by 2020 is a pretty weak number considering the energy challenge LA faces. - SheilaNoya, on 11/26/2008, -1/+6There are 13 million people in the L.A. basin and we have a massive infrastructure.
10% of our power consumption would be a HUGE accomplishment. I'd like to see it be more, but this is still pretty damn impressive for a metropolitan area this size. - Cglass, on 11/26/2008, -1/+4You are just NOW beginning to think something is wrong with Mayor Villar?!
What the half dozen trees in the 1,000,000 tree planting mission didn't clue you in
Or maybe the supposed 1,000,000 potholes he filled, but didn't really.
I'm surprised he didn't claim to put in 1,000,000 solar panels. - momomorrell, on 11/26/2008, -0/+3alternative energy sources can definitely pull us out of this downturn.
right now you buy an electric car, you still have to plug it into a system that in many cases is still using fuels to generate electricity...
our whole way of life is based on cheap fossil fuels...its scary really. - roostersheep, on 01/16/2009, -0/+2Thanks for the AMAZING LINK, friend. Reported.
- skittlebomb101, on 11/26/2008, -0/+2If only people started acting more like solar panels...
sarc - yehaww, on 11/26/2008, -0/+2It never ceases to amaze me how the haters come out every time a city decides to do something environmentally beneficial. All of a sudden everyone is an expert in solar technology. Sure, by 2020 things will be totally different. But you gotta start somewhere and this is a good step in the right direction for this city and this country.
- Gemfinder, on 11/26/2008, -0/+1He could do it on a bigger scale, sooner, if he just got everyone that owned a building in the city to put solar panels on their roof. Give 'em a city tax cut commensurate to the investment.
- phreak79, on 11/26/2008, -0/+1Cool. 2020. Plenty of time to wriggle out of that one then.
- caivp, on 02/09/2009, -0/+1In California, local and state governments are supporting “greening” measures to help the environment and raise accountability. With going green comes lucrative spending contracts to update infrastructure. New construction creates new jobs.
http://www.caivp.org/article/issues/2009/2/9/green - Barackalypse, on 11/26/2008, -1/+2Solar power in the smog capital of the US, brilliant idea, take something with a questionable economic payback to begin with and hinder its full efficiency with all the particulate crap in your air. *
"That explains why the American Lung Assn. released its new study announcing that Los Angeles is still the smog capitol of the United States."
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-rodrigue ...
*Yes, I know the majority of it will be from the Mojave Desert. - GlobalPatriot, on 11/28/2008, -0/+1It's not the dramatic shift most had hoped for, but it's a step in the right direction and has the potential to sift the focus of attention in L.A.
- inactive, on 11/26/2008, -0/+1April 1st 2012
Breaking News:
Cold Fusion is now a reality! Safe means for energy to take United States by storm!
LA: "*****!....wait.." - tatebruin, on 11/26/2008, -1/+1It's a matter of scale. Not only is L.A. literally five times larger than San Francisco (800,000 vs. 4 million +) but also LA will be getting 35% of its electricity from renewable sources (solar, wind, geothermal, etc.) by 2020. Thus, by 2020, LA's renewable energy generating capacity will probably exceed the ENTIRE generating capacity of the City of San Francisco.
- warrior43, on 11/26/2008, -0/+0bangwagon?
- jaypooner, on 11/26/2008, -2/+2YES!! the city of angels never fails to disappoint. for you naysayers out there, the number is pretty small, but it is a huge step in the right direction
- jerryjamesstone, on 11/25/2008, -6/+6I lived in LA for three years, hated it...bout time they did something cool
- inactive, on 11/26/2008, -2/+1i believe it said "worlds largest" - seriously think about that - before you open your trap.
- inactive, on 11/26/2008, -2/+1Or they could wait until 2020 and have much more efficient solar technology power a larger amount of the population for much less money.
But ohhhh the bangwagon.... - inactive, on 11/26/2008, -4/+1i believe it said "worlds largest" - seriously think about that - before you open your trap.
- karmastic, on 11/26/2008, -6/+210% by 2020, Los Angeles is so cute. I don't see the city truly competing with San Francisco with numbers like that.
- NonLeftistDiggr, on 11/26/2008, -6/+2My Xbox 360 through my HDTV and 5.1 surround sound, network bridged through my computer, while the clothes are drying, my girlfriend is cooking, and the refrigerator is plugged in says you can take my government mandated personal solar panel system and shove it...... (and I'm not even somebody who uses AC very often)
AHHHHHh I just tricked you there!! I'm just kidding, none of that will be happening in the future because I will still be at work in the evening trying to pay for my portion of CA state debt, half of which was created with ballot propositions (like the one Mayor debt-iosa is talking about) the sheeple perpetually passed for generations because they were never shown the true cost of all this up front.
I can't imagine what the environmental impact of creating 200 million solar panel/wind systems, and installing them in every house would be; but I highly doubt that GINORMOUS conversion would pay off in reduced environmental impacts with only a 20-25 year life span.
Give me green power, give me common sense, give me nuclear.
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