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- perhapsimcrazy, on 01/22/2008, -11/+55I say, if the polar ice caps are such a problem, we just nuke them and get it over with.
I voted for Bush.
Ron Paul Sucks.
I prefer Windows.
Open Source is for Hippies. - inactive, on 01/22/2008, -5/+22actually,they said that the volcano actually is melting this one glacier in particular, just not all the rest of them.
- fatabbot, on 01/22/2008, -8/+16Interesting read, but a bit misleading... The article even says it's unlikely. Dugg anyway!
- metapop, on 01/22/2008, -3/+11you forgot "Fox is a perfectly good source for news".
- TheG2, on 01/22/2008, -0/+7You needed a reason to start drinking?
- samdu, on 01/22/2008, -6/+13Can't possibly be true as it would undermine the fear campaign of the extreme left. Despite the fact that volcanoes and other natural phenomena have been the culprit behind every single global warming trend in the past. Humans are evil, destructive entities and must be reigned in before the world is too comfy and enjoyable.
- janeuner, on 01/22/2008, -3/+10There is nothing misleading about alternate theory. Either way, it is still melting.
- SemiSarcastic, on 01/22/2008, -0/+7That's the spirit!
- Sil369, on 01/22/2008, -2/+8Omg, volcanos are causing global warming. Let's fill'em with dried corn and see what happens.
- Checkerd, on 01/22/2008, -3/+9You're crazy!
- inactive, on 01/22/2008, -3/+9Yet you readily swallow that us adding 0.0000002% more carbon to the atmosphere is going to end civilization as we know it and that only paying the UN and Al Gore money will keep the planet from imploding.
- zelig, on 01/22/2008, -14/+20The hottest years have already passed (1998, 2005)
Ice in Greenland is growing and temps are plummeting- http://www.cphpost.dk/get/105114.html
Arctic Chill Stretches Coast to Coast in US: http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/weather/01/21/bitter.co ... - valkyries, on 01/22/2008, -3/+9amen!
- nitsnipe, on 01/22/2008, -9/+14Either way, sooner or later. We're *****.
- EXreaction, on 01/22/2008, -5/+9You people can not seem to understand that we are talking average temperature increases over years and decades, not huge increases every year in temperature. Is that why you can not accept global warming? You just don't understand what you are talking about?
It's the same as the people who don't accept evolution, they simply do not understand and comprehend it. - Alex2, on 01/22/2008, -3/+7From your first link - Nearby glacier receding.
"The mayor cautioned against thinking that the freezing temperature indicated that global warming claims were overblown. He noted that a nearby glacier had retracted more in the past two decades than in recorded history."
As for your second link: you expect snow in January to debunk global warming? - crazywarthog, on 01/22/2008, -2/+6It must be global warming because Al Gore said so. Everyone knows politicians are very honest people and would never lie !!!
- inactive, on 01/22/2008, -1/+5Explain to me how the US, polluting the exact same amounts but paying some 3rd world african ***** hole for the privilege curbs global warming?
Explain to me how a person can pollute as much as he wants, but buy some carbon credits and all of a sudden is a hero for saving the planet and is actually curbing global warming?
Do 1000 politicians and warm-mongers flying to Bali on private jets to talk about global warming help curb global warming or cause more global warming? - Hobolord, on 01/22/2008, -0/+4Glacier Vs. Volcano: Whoever wins, we lose.
- kday, on 01/22/2008, -0/+4It's still not known how much effect humans have on global warming. Science can prove that global warming is occurring by looking back at history (about .75ยบ C hotter in the last 100 years), but there is not conclusive evidence that humans are effecting the rate of warming to any significance.
What's wrong with questioning global warming? Is it bad to be skeptical? Why should I believe what a politician tells me?
That being said, discussing whether or not global warming is human caused is starting to make me sick. The arguing will be going on forever amongst both the science community, and politicians. Instead of arguing about global warming, let's find and create alternative fuels because WE CAN. Introducing alternative fuels will only help the economy, the environment, and improve air quality. If this ends up solving global warming, great. If it doesn't we'll still have a better, cleaner, more efficient fuel sources, and most likely, a healthier economy. Either way, it's a win-win situation. - jkizzle, on 01/22/2008, -2/+6pine trees never were endangered.
if glaciers were naturally melting, it would be for a natural reason. the problem is that glaciers are melting unnaturally, due to unnatural reasons.
you lose. - tsaylor, on 01/22/2008, -2/+6"Coming up next, can bees think? A new study confirms that no, they cannot."
- jjmac, on 01/22/2008, -1/+4Millions of gallons of molten rock melting ice? nah...
- masterm1nd, on 01/22/2008, -0/+3No one seems to know that while 60% of glaciers are receding, 40% are growing. That is how we estimate the temperature of the earth (satellites measuring glaciers). In a dynamic climate on a dynamic earth, why would it be 50/50 or static? I just don't find this alarming or unnatural. Btw, how do they accurately compare this to 100 years ago?
- MacSuxWindozSux, on 01/22/2008, -2/+5Don't forget to screw Tibet.
- MacSuxWindozSux, on 01/22/2008, -3/+6It's a land mass larger than the United States.
It's covered with a 2km/mile deep sheet of ice. (It's big whatever)
There's a mountain near one of the edges with volcanic activity.
I'm supposed to entertain the thought that it could be melting the entire continent.
Yeah right. - aliengoods, on 01/22/2008, -1/+4That's exactly why I started drinking.
- ironhide, on 01/22/2008, -6/+9do yourself a favor..and stop talking.
- KnightMareInc, on 01/22/2008, -2/+5skip the blog spam
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/21/world/21volcano. ... - HanSolo69, on 01/22/2008, -1/+4None of us alive today will be alive long enough to see that global warming is a cycle.
- EXreaction, on 01/22/2008, -1/+4You speak as if nature is a sentient being.
- ftx437, on 01/22/2008, -0/+3You can't take the average temp of the world just by taking temperature readings from places across the world..There are to many other factors involved..besides of course the average temp would increase when you close down the monitoring stations in the cold areas.
- metapop, on 01/22/2008, -0/+3don't forget the butter & salt!
- masterm1nd, on 01/22/2008, -0/+2Just not the rest of them? They're not all melting, only 60% of the worlds glaciers are melting. What's making the other 40% of glaciers grow?
- Noctem, on 01/22/2008, -1/+3Apparently my sarcasm was missed by most. jjmac down below did a better job.
- inactive, on 01/22/2008, -0/+2This is just another example of what is still unknown and left out of the vaunted climate models.
These all add up to make any model meaningless in the real world.
The most glaring omission is a real model for solar activity, which is impossible due to the chaotic nature of solar outbursts.
The fact none of the models can or do properly model solar activity has been glossed over from the beginning and if pressed the modelers will assure you they have perfect accounting of everything solar, never mind the mountains of data that clearly show otherwise. Another BIG problem for the carbon truthers is mounting evidence that solar interaction with the earths magnetic field (yes it's variable as well) is yet another factor that cannot and will not be modeled (much thanks to Vincent Courtillot and his team for having the courage to follow the truth in such dark times). If you take these and the dozens of other factors the modelers ignore a clear modus operandi emerges, "if it cannot be modeled discredit it." This just happens to be a hallmark of all religions........ - skyshock1, on 01/22/2008, -3/+5Then why is Mars experiencing planetary warming? Is our massive presence on that planet causing it to warm as well?
It's not humans, it's the sun. - InfiniteNothing, on 01/22/2008, -0/+2Dust storms: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/04/07 ...
- ultralights, on 01/22/2008, -0/+2when are we going to realise, we are all living on the very thin crust on top of a planet made of MOLTEN ROCK, being soaked in light from a Nuclear Furnace in space, thousands of times bigger than our little planet, and we think adding a tiny amount of CO2 to the already massive levels making up 0.001 of our atmosphere will cause us all to roast to death and drown by tomorrow night?
- masterm1nd, on 01/22/2008, -0/+2But that still doesn't give a complete picture of the entire earth's climate, just that particular location. In the same way that one or even many thermometers can not measure the temperature of earth's entire climate.... I just see a much larger margin of error than the one degree difference, on top of change being the norm...
- MacSuxWindozSux, on 01/22/2008, -3/+5There's a "Global Warming" disinformation campaign underway lead by oil and energy companies.
The idea is to confuse the public and discredit real information.
It's just like what happened when people discovered smoking was deadly. - pintomp3, on 01/22/2008, -0/+2you're right, nature will heal itself by getting rid of us.
- bdbElysian, on 01/22/2008, -0/+2How about this line: Your skin also heals when i cut it but if i don't stop cutting there will be no finder to heal.
- inactive, on 01/22/2008, -1/+3For the past 29-ish years we have been able to use satellite data for global temperature measurement. Interpretation of these data puts us on no/negligible warming over that period. This is presumed to be the most accurate source of information. Since the record has not passed the 30-year climatological threshold, we do not see it featured in journals or publications. Yet.
GISS data are provided from weather stations. These are little boxes of instruments with a variety of error margins. They are also subject to UHI (urban heat island) which would generate a rise in temperature due to nearby effects such as conversion from dirt road to asphalt or a new building with HVAC exhausts. Since the data from weather stations reach back over a hundred years, they can be called climate measurements. But, the accuracy of this method is terribly suspect. - q314, on 01/22/2008, -1/+3problems ARE solved by working harder.
Want to try a social experiement? Ban Televisions from people on welfare. Take away the idiot box that preaches all day about how great everything is and how worthless we are as humans because we don't live luxurious lives and always have perfect complexions. Where white people rule everything and black people are "black, but nice."
Take the ***** lies out of people's lives. Tell them they're NOT going to be rock stars. They're NOT going to win the lottery. Nothing comes for free.
There ARE people who need help, and time has shown that it is not governments that supply this help, it is other people. People are not all bad. We need to wake up from this zombie sleepwalk.
If you really believe that socialism is the only way to solve these problems, all is already lost.
We stand at attention, ready to vote in dictators that will solve all of our problems, when the real solution lies within ourselves.
Ron Paul - The only Presidential Candidate offering you NOTHING but the truth. - paker, on 01/22/2008, -0/+2Wait, I just read a DIgg article on how Antarctica hasn't been effected by any ice loss. WTF, now it is?
- orca94, on 01/22/2008, -0/+2They take ice core samples from deep below the glacier surfaces that give them a relatively accurate description of what weather conditions were like in the past via chemical composition analysis.
- honkaform, on 01/22/2008, -0/+2I think, it being late and all, that it's safe to say my mind is in the gutter, but that pic has some... sexual undertones...
- orca94, on 01/22/2008, -0/+2It's not 100.000% accurate. But I do believe they have it down to at least Biological bordering Chemistry type precision these days. They take several hundred, even thousands of core samples from various different areas to do the analysis. The composition of various other elements other than water in the ice and their relative abundance in the samples give a fair approximation of what temperatures were like (to again Biological type precision, not modern high precision thermocouple type precision) and the general state of glaciers at the time the sample was created. Research like this is part of the reason why there are scientists stationed at the poles (some of the only people that live there permanently).
As for it not giving a complete picture of the entire earth's climate, that is true with respect to ice core samples. But there are other clever methods people have come up with to gauge those temperatures. That and I believe (again I may be mistaken) the poles do act as relative indicators as to the state of the rest of the globe's climate, at least with respect to more simplistic measurements like temperature as opposed to hurricanes and thing such as that.
Granted any claim that human interference is responsible for global warming is certainly not a definite one. There's no way to be 100% sure, and global warming and cooling are certainly cyclical. However, despite the staggering scales I do personally believe human development has had a notable change on the climate, and there is at least some evidence with some level of significance to suggest that(though it could all be statistical noise, error in measurement etc...). Though, I nor anybody for that matter can say for absolute certain what really is the truth. The planet is definitely not *****, but caring for the environment would certainly help some other issues even if Global Warming turns out to be a huge mistake. - inactive, on 01/22/2008, -2/+4That is officially THE most ignorant thing I've come across today. Yeah thats it! If people don't accept what you tell them its their own fault! EXreaction, go and spread that vast knowledge, so that others may one day have at least a sliver of your intellect...
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