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- marleysm, on 10/12/2007, -8/+70about damn time!!!!!! Other stores should have atleast a recycling center for old ones too. No food store have them execpt whole foods
- primehifi, on 10/12/2007, -7/+54Now where will I score all of my garbage bags for my car, house and place of work?
- dolemite5005, on 10/12/2007, -0/+30So now I won't be able to bring my new book shelf, dresser, and coffee table home in a plastic bag? Darn.
On a more serious note, paper bags are way better anyway as they can hold much more. I can get a cart full of groceries which will be bagged in 16 plastic bags or 3 paper. Also, whoever decided to recently add on heavy-duty paper handles to paper bags was a genius. - loker269, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23Meijer gives you $0.05 off your order for each bag you bring in to bag your items.....
I think a lot of other stores have the same policy marlesym - EzarKun, on 10/12/2007, -6/+21Everyone should do it!
So as food chains, people should pay for the cups and paper bags!
I cant believe the amount of garbage people throw around!
And smokers should get fined for throwing cigarette buds on the ground. I dont care if they are killing themselves, but please, atleast burn out the flame, and dispose it. - towca, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14"if Ikea really wanted to save the environment they'd charge $100 per bag and donate any money earned to environmental causes"
You're not a business major are you? even if they REALLY cared about the environment, they couldn't do that.
and besides, it's not the 5c, it's the fact that you have to ask for them. It does make you think. Saying 10 when you only need 6 makes you feel like a pig. I sometimes shop at a grocery where they charge you a nickel/bag. I always use less bags there. - mamefreak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Hannaford (East cost supermarket chain) recycles all, and i mean ALL plastic. I supervise at the NY warehouse and we receive at least 500 60gallon trash bags of bags back daily from the stores. These are compacted and sent off to be recycled. Not as direct an impact as reusing the bags, but it helps.
- VeganBob, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Wholefoods will give you a 5-cent refund per bag you bring on your own (reusable canvas bags or reusing their bags).
- wqwert, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10"Meijer gives you $0.05 off your order for each bag you bring in to bag your items....."
My intuition is that the stick is stronger than the carrot, particularly for small gains and loses. If you believe that, then small penalties are more of a deterrent than small bonuses are as an incentive. For reading on this idea, check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prospect_theory - Habemus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8When I was in England I went to Tesco and bought a bunch of groceries. The cashier checked them all through then pushed them down past her and said what my charge was. I figured they didn't bag them for you like they do in American and I was supposed to bag them since the girl there obviously wasn't going to do it, so I asked for some bags. She asked how many. I said "uh, four?" So she rang up four bags at 5p each and handed them to me. No free bags in England. McDonald's in England charged me for ketchup at 10p a packet too.
- GoDawgs7, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9What are you talking about? The case you cited involved Pfizer, not ikea. I should know, I talked about it in a Law exam today. The reason New London got away with it was because eminent domain was defined as "public interest" and not "public use," which meant that it could go to private developers as long as there was public interest (read: higher taxes...).
- uaioe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5What's the big deal? In Canada, Safeway and Superstore have been doing this for over a decade...
- magicRob, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6They've always charged (10c) for plastic bags here in their Australian stores. I'm surprised they don't do this in all of their stores.
- JavertHolmes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Apparently having free access to plastic bags was written in the bill of rights and Ikea is now violating it. At least that's what you'd think from some of the comments.
The supermarkets I've gone to that charge a menial price per bag can probably tell people that they use a lot less bags than they used to. I know I do my damnedest to buy the fewest bags possible and pack other items into a laptop bag that I bring. My only concern is packing meats into a reuseable bag that can't readily be washed. Ikea does not have this problem until they start selling ground beef sofas. - ihaveplans, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6@dolemite5005
Paper bags might hold more than plastic ones, but you can hold a hell of a lot more plastic bags at once, which equals less trips. - lutey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Its great that someone is finally sacking up and making the first move. Lord knows our government is too scared to do it. When I lived in ireland everyone was up in arms about how a bag tax there would cause havoc. It didn't. You get to wrap your veggies and meat in those thinner bags for free but all the other ones cost 10 cents. It cut the yearly total of plastic bags used by 90%, from 1.2 billion to just over 100 million plastic bags a year. Now thats in a country of 4 million people... imagine the savings for 300 million consumers. Thats a lot of barrels of oil.
- steger, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@coolcut
"I'd buy this garbage if perhaps they would take the ($0.05 x 35 million bags = $1,750,000) in bag sales and donate it to environmental or recycling causes"
Did you RTFA?
FTA: "Proceeds of up to $1.75 million (that's a whole lot of bags) from the bag campaign will go to American Forests, the nation's oldest non-profit citizens conservation organization, to plant trees to restore forests and offset CO2 emissions..."
I plan on to continue to shop at Ikea and buy their blue bag to shop. And why are you mad about IKEA making/saving money and using it for good? You know they are a corporation in it for profit, but most of it will go to charity. - tdp05, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4All the supermarkets I went to in Amsterdam, France, Germany and Italy charged 2 euro cents for a bag, or something near that. Crazy bastards also charged to use the restroom in alot of places, which I'm not in favor of. But the bags, I'm fine with. I don't throw them out, I have a bunch sitting under my sink. I use them for trashbags or to put recycling in.
- scagnetti, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I don't remember plastic (disposable) bags even being an option in the German Ikeas. You had to spend a couple of euro to buy a bag that was constructed of blue tarp. I still have a couple in my attic that are great for carrying large quantities of fabricated crap. Regardless, once you get used to the paradigm you get off your high horse and just accept it as a way of life. Next step, bring our own bags! Too bad you'd end up getting jumped by security for suspected shoplifting in the US of A.
- mdshoreboy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4i dunno about that... ikea today is like the walmart of sweden. cheap cheap cheap. You pay for what you get! I found that when i went to college instead of loading up my apartment with ikea goods like everyone else, i just went antique shopping and now I have collectable furniture. quite an investment.
- Raian, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5To all the whiners-- they aren't making money off bags... they are just offloading the minimal cost to the consumer and making the business more efficient. They could have easily raised the price on a couple of items to offset the cost, but instead they gave the consumer the option, which is great.
The more shocking thing is that Wal Mart, the bastion of efficiency, isn't doing the same thing. - Omnianimosity, on 10/12/2007, -13/+16Or they could just increase the quality of their product so it lasts more than 6 months
- ForlornHope, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6You had a law exam in February? What school do you go to??
- igyigyigy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4We have this in Ireland, a government tax on the cheap thin plastic bags (15c euro - about 20c in dollars).
I work in a supermarket, and before this came in, people were complaining 'oh it's just a hidden tax, it wont encourage people to reuse bags at all!'
They were wrong, about 2 weeks into it maybe 10-20% of people took more than 1 bag, versus almost 100% before, people started bringing in heavier reusable bags multiple times.
BBC story about it, and talking about possible bans/taxes elsewhere: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2205419.stm - KraigR, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Hannaford supermarkets does.
- igyigyigy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Here in Ireland you can still get your bags packed, and brought to your car if you want, but they're usually large reusable bags that you bring yourself, or you pay the tax on the flimsy plastic bags. Customer service isnt materially affected, really, just for those that are too forgetful to bring their bags
- JavertHolmes, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"Cut bag use in half? Good luck. It won't change anything."
From the article: "This program was launched in IKEA stores in the UK in late Spring 2006, and reduction has been an impressive 95 percent."
"This PR move will cost more money to manage than it will generate in plastic bag sales."
Again, as the article implies, it's done to cut down on bag consumption, not make Ikea $4.3 trillion in plastic bag sales. They knew reduction was 95% in the UK and are now doing it in the US. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Yeah, I saw it, but I realize that the biggest ***** part of ***** is people who take the show as anything other than ENTERTAINMENT. They freely admit that the they are presenting a biased view of their own. They are ***** MAGICIANS. Not scientists, etc.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Um...yes they do. People in all states DO recycle bottles and cans whrehtere is a deposit. Not all, but LOTS of people do. Especially individual ones. Myself, I bring my cans back because I buy soda in 12 packs for $2.50. So I am paying almost 25% in deposits above the cost of the product. However, on the off chance that I get a 2 liter bottle, I have no problem throwing it in the recycling bin for my building since it is only 4-5% of the cost. I am definitely not alone. Were I live, there is a business that does nothing but take bottle returns. For the life of me I have no idea how he makes money because unlike some of these bulk return places, he gives the full 5 cents per can/bottle. But somehow he makes enough money to have TWO locations.
So people DO return 5 cent deposit bottles. Lots of people. - kwulf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3wrong. here in iowa we get 5 cents for a bottle and people do it all the time. There are businesses whose sole purpose is taking your cans, so obviously enough do it to keep them going.
- TheCount, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I gotta agree with primehifi, I've been using grocery bags to line my trash cans and pick up dog poop for ages, now I'll have to actually buy plastic bags instead of reusing them.
- algorythm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3good. They should start doing this everywhere. I get upset when they pack one item per bag. This especially happens at grocery stores. I reuse my plastic bags but i am sure many just toss them.
- zizzybaloobah, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Damn, IKEA was always a great source for poopie bags for our dogs. That's OK, ever since they fired a 40-something friend of mine who was about to rack up some serious seniority, vacation time, and other benefits, I've kinda soured on them anyway.
- kwulf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Think about how many bags walk out of WALMART each day!!!
If they could implement this, it would just be amazing. Granted they never will, because its devil walmart - rogueifer, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4their products last forever, that is if you put it together correctly. i've had my ikea bed for almost 20 years now. the only thing i've had to do is replace the foam mattress.
i think ikea could definitely find a better way to go about encouraging their customers to use recycled bags. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"Crazy bastards also charged to use the restroom in alot of places, which I'm not in favor of."
Really? That's what I loved about Europe. In Germany I had to pay to use washrooms, but they were damn clean because of that. It's nicer to pay 50 cents and have a nice place to use the washroom rather than pay nothing but having to maneuver your way around other people's piss everywhere. - kwulf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2but do you really need hundreds. I'm sure you will still have plenty of waste bags from other stores.
- DyDx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The Giant by my house takes bags for recycling..
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4All the grocery stores near me (Ontario) make you pay $.05 per bag, but they also stick a bunch of boxes they don't need at the front, so if you don't want to play for bags you can use old boxes. And it does seem to make a difference, but that may just be because the stores want it to look like it's making a difference.
- rabadi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2They have been doing this in Sweden for a long time now. Almost every supermarket you go to in Sweden charges a small amount for plastic bags. This seems to have worked since the majority of the Swedes opt out for tote bags they bring from home as an alternative. As a result, this made me more aware of recycling and encouraged me to bring along a tote bag every time I shop while in Sweden. This didn't last, however, as soon as I came back to the country of the spoiled....the U.S. of A. Maybe it's time to bring back the habit of using a tote bag every time I shop.
- JavertHolmes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Apparently your comment was so horrendously offensive and disgusting that you are now into the negative Digg range. People reduced to moving their groceries from their trunk to their home in a cardboard box? Paying $0.05 not to face such embarrassment? The horror! The horror!
The point of the $0.05 is to make people realize that plastic bags don't come down from the plastic bag fairy. They cost economically and environmentally. If you deny these facts then you are not living in reality. - jercraigs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The bags are not free... they just don't charge you for them outright. Most places that charge for bags charge less for the groceries. Congratulations, you are proud of paying too much for something!
- 3-6-0, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2shop rite just throws out returned bags instead of recycling them because its too expensive to recycle. Dont ever sell ur soul to shop rite by getting a job there
- igyigyigy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Surely if they use 70 million now, and you don't think that's going to drop with the charge, that would increase their profits by 70 million nickles? :)
Seriously though, it will marginally discourage bag use, 5c isn't enough for most people to even notice it. - techware, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5I guess us Southern morons don't get high falooten places like IKEA.
Winn Dixie, Bi-Lo, Wal-Mart, and Ingles are about it.
Course no self respecting southerner would PAY a store for bags for groceries I just BOUGHT from THEM.
Heck, we even have people who carry our groceries out to our cars and load them up for us, for FREE.
Meanwhile, 500 miles north of me you folk are paying for the privilege of having to bag your own groceries.
Amazing what people will put up with.
This is another example of why customer service is dying.
You lay down like dogs and take it up the rear.
I bet you good money that if say Bi-Lo stopped bagging groceries or started charging you for bags, Bi-Lo would go out of business very fast.
Any of you yanks want to move down here, the winters are pretty warm, the girls even warmer and bags are always FREE. - Progression, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This would make a profound difference if grocery stores followed suit.
- urbn, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6Uhhh, they wont use less bags, they will make more money. I'm sure the number of people that use, and will continue to use plastic bags use them because they not have, or will not use reusable bags, and will just thow them out once they get home. Most likely they will cut it down to 1-5% because of people not getting bags for their 1-2 items they buy.
NOTE that they are trying to SELL these bags to people to reuse the bags when they come to the store, and I'm willing to bet most people will not remember to bring their .59 cent bag with them when they go shopping there. - dojobi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Why is this being dugg down? This happens all the time in the US. When I lived there I would always say that I didn't need a bag and they'd still force one on me.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2There are many ways of reducing plastic. One small chain I visit sells you a cloth bag for $1. If you bring the same bag to any of their stores next time you get $1 off on your purchase.
- slimnickyy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1That's how it is in the UK. Deal with it. You could take your own bags don't forget. Just stuff old grocery bags somewhere and take them with you to IKEA or whatever and stop bitching.
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