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- inactive, on 07/18/2008, -47/+166I'll trust Gore when he, as a millionaire, starts contributing half of his money to this effort. Until then, he is nothing more than a manipulative, self-serving politician who LOVES to use everyone else's tax money for his own purposes.
There are two excellent ways to determine what people really value - how they spend their time and how they spend their money.
Al Gore seems to spend most of his time giving speeches, hanging out in his multi-million dollar mansion which uses more energy than some city blocks, flying in his leaded-fuel-burning private airplane, and making b-grade movies full of junk science.
...and he spends very little of his money, if any at all, on reducing his own carbon footprint on the planet.
Now, given this, do you really think that the Goracle is walking the walk or simply talking the talk? - Joshuarr, on 07/18/2008, -9/+79I hereby challenge America to be 100% carbon neutral by 2017, because I take a tougher and more progressive stance on environmental issues than Mr. Gore.
- pentupentropy, on 07/17/2008, -20/+86this is not achievable. It's a pipe dream. But if everyone tried to get there, at least by then we'd have made a substantial enough difference that might psych people up to keep going.
- CreateSomeNoise, on 07/18/2008, -30/+90You want to see an IMMEDIATE savings? Tell these fruitcake parents to STOP DRIVING THEIR BRATS TO SCHOOL and tell them to take the bus that our taxes are paying for. That bus will have to make the FULL ROUTE whether your brat is on the bus stop that morning or not. A waste of gas for the bus and a waste of gas for the maniac parents driving their precious cargo like bats out of hell. Nothing but brainless and irresponsible people these days.
- almostnormal, on 07/18/2008, -7/+482/27/07 - NASHVILLE, TN) -- Back home in Tennessee, safely ensconced in his suburban Nashville home, Vice President Al Gore is no doubt basking in the Oscar awarded to "An Inconvenient Truth," the documentary he inspired and in which he starred. But a local free-market think tank is trying to make that very home emblematic of what it deems Gore's environmental hypocrisy.
Armed with Gore's utility bills for the last two years, the Tennessee Center for Policy Research charged Monday that the gas and electric bills for the former vice president's 20-room home and pool house devoured nearly 221,000 kilowatt-hours in 2006, more than 20 times the national average of 10,656 kilowatt-hours.
"If this were any other person with $30,000-a-year in utility bills, I wouldn't care," says the Center's 27-year-old president, Drew Johnson. "But he tells other people how to live and he's not following his own rules."
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/nat ... - SheilaNoya, on 07/18/2008, -28/+63Everyone thought JFK's challenge to put a man on the moon within 10 years was impossible. However, we completed the task in only 8 years.
This task sounds less daunting since we already have most of the technology available. We just need the will to do it and a president who will push hard for it. Out of our only two realistic choices, Obama is the one who is surrounded by people who genuinely want this to become a reality.
In contrast, McCain is surrounded by the same old incompetent cronies that worked for Bush and even Bush's father. They've done nothing but block all previous attempts at creating alternative energy because they are too beholden to the oil, gas, and coal industry.
This will never even get off the ground unless we have new leadership who is willing to move us in a completely new direction. - stigma15, on 07/18/2008, -8/+36Make sure you buy those carbon credits from the firm Gore owns if you REALLY care...
- minox, on 07/18/2008, -12/+40Gore is a multi-millionaire, and he couldn't make himself 100% carbon neutral after he was criticized for excessive usage.
- HuskyPuzzle, on 07/17/2008, -40/+67I think this being achievable depends largely on who gets elected as our next President.
- kylere, on 07/18/2008, -6/+32Carbon offsets have as much real world value as monopoly money.
- bossm4n, on 07/18/2008, -4/+30Carbon offsets? You do realize who owns the company he pays those carbon offset credits to? Yep, he does. Generation Investment Management is partly owned and chaired by Al Gore. Expose this scam artist for the hypocrite he is.
"In other words, he 'buys' his 'carbon offsets' from himself, through a transaction designed to boost his own investments and return a profit to himself," Hobbs writes. "To be blunt, Gore doesn't buy 'carbon offsets' through Generation Investment Management – he buys stocks." - 1hrSleep, on 07/18/2008, -6/+32Hahaha... Carbon offsets. I'm going to go burn a stack of tires in my backyard now. Don't worry though, I'll buy carbon offsets for it. All good, yeah?
- Someguy101, on 02/19/2009, -11/+36True or false, none of that changes the importance of what he's trying to say.
Which is basically that we need to live responsibly. If Gore doesn't do this himself then I agree, he's an asshat. But that doesn't change the fact that we need to make some changes to our current way of life in preparation for future. - wazzledoozle2, on 07/18/2008, -4/+27We could do it with nuclear. Only realistic way to achieve such a goal by 2018.
- hpdarkman525, on 07/18/2008, -2/+22I would hope that a 16 year old would be living with their mother...
- poidh, on 07/18/2008, -4/+24I'll take your 2017 and raise you a 2016. Because my stance is tougher than yours.
- blurrie, on 07/18/2008, -9/+28he should start by making his mansion use less less energy than a small town.
- upick, on 07/18/2008, -16/+34in case you didn't know going carbon neutral is expensive and its costing tax payers... that the case in Australia the government will be passing a new law very soon about carbon emission.
- jaderobbins, on 07/18/2008, -3/+21I challenge that we should be 100% carbon neutral by TOMORROW. That is right, I care more than ALL of you!
And hey, if we do it by buying carbon offsets the environment will still be good, right? - sephiroth965, on 07/18/2008, -2/+20Not every kid can ride the bus to school for free. It depends on where you live. In my area it's only free if yu live a certain distance far away from the school and for everyone else it's really expensive.
- OmegaApex, on 07/18/2008, -9/+27..Coming from the guy that uses more energy in a month than i do in a year...right
- Blankcheque, on 07/18/2008, -14/+31What do you all say we figure out the ***** economy and figure out a way to end the conflicts we're involved in within the middle east. Before we start making pipe dreams like this?
- woodrow8292, on 07/18/2008, -8/+25Looks like Al doesn't pay for a thing when he gives speeches. Lets see free air fare, free car, 1000 per diem, free first class hotel, free phone calls. Yup sure looks like he's spending a lot of his own money to spread his message. Oh and he gets $100,000 per. Not a bad deal for "using his own resources". I am sure he fails to mention that he owns parts of companies that are benefiting from the whole green movement. It's like NBC pushing green green green in all their shows and news and everyone is like wow they care so much. But then oh wait I forgot GE owns them and they just rolled out a whole new line of "green" products. So GE pushes the green idea through NBC to profit from eveyone buying their green products. Sounds a lot like Al
- Soave, on 07/18/2008, -0/+15It costs money to ride the school bus where I live... dunno about those taxes.
- Spuy767, on 07/18/2008, -5/+20Less of a challenge, more of a publicity stunt. He wants the country to be carbon neutral, but he needs that Bombardier Global Express to get to his speeches about the environment.
- macwac, on 07/18/2008, -8/+22**deleted long rant about Al Gore being an opportunist** ....Al Gore make yourself 100% green with the same income of the average American with a desk job (9 to 5) and then come back to me without a dollar in loan, having paid your children's education, your taxes, your student loan, your house loan/mortgage, your bills and I will believe you! until then.. *input insult for Al Gore*.
- mfc5200, on 07/18/2008, -3/+16Day 3 - Obama actions completely contradict his words...
- inactive, on 07/18/2008, -11/+22Where does Al Gore get his money? Does he get paid by universities and organizations to speak? Oh yes, he does. Big time.
"The honoraria paid to all of the speakers appearing at this conference add up to less than the honorarium Al Gore gets paid for making a single speech, and less than what his company makes selling fake carbon “off-sets” in a week."
http://www.heartland.org/NewYork08/newyork08.cfm
Check this out:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/07 ...
http://www.parkwayreststop.com/archives/2728 - stupidStan, on 07/18/2008, -17/+28How can we even worry ourselves with this while ManBearPig is still on the loose!?
- inactive, on 07/18/2008, -9/+20Anger? Please. This critique has nothing to do with emotion. It's based on a logical assessment of the Goracle and politicians in general.
The fact that you assume any critique of Al Gore (perhaps a favorite politician of yours) is based on emotion betrays how YOU form your opinions and why.
Why do you think about anger and daddy so much? Hmmm??? - wexmajor, on 07/18/2008, -14/+24Do you know what happens when you implement extremely expensive and wide-ranging radical changes to the economy with arbitrary and extreme short-term goals?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward
People ***** starve to death en masse. This isn't a joke. This isn't the kind of thing where it's acceptable for leaders to "move" people in "the right direction" against their will. If they ***** up bad things will happen. - Ethek, on 07/18/2008, -12/+22President, yeah. All for the greater good. Tell my daughter the only vehicle with a 400 lb tounge weight rating was just banned so we cant take her power wheel-chair anywhere. Perhaps the millions in Africa that are starving becuase of the misguided attempts at ethanol with food staples would be ok with furthering the same hamfisted practices. Everything humans do, including breathing, expends carbon. Soon forced birth control and human culling will be acceptable 'policy' for our fascist leaders.
I'm not for ruining the environment but lets do this through motivation not coercion. - inactive, on 07/18/2008, -2/+12Al Gore benefits personally from the eco-crusade he is on thanks to his own connections to the energy industry. His family has deep connections to Armand Hammer's chemical empire. He is also profitably tied to contracts with the Tennessee Valley Authority. He is like a Dick Cheney for green technology...you can't really trust that he isn't using his cause to enrich himself and his cronies.
As for carbon offsets...that might be a good idea when it is transparent to regulation and oversight. Short of that, the public has no reason to believe that it isn't a scam that helps to enrich Gore personally. - OMightyColumbia, on 07/18/2008, -9/+19differences between this and the moon: you build one item for 17 people to go to the moon, vs building countless dams (the most effecient form of renewable, clean power) for 300,000,000 people. get a life al gore, you know about as much about power generation as elton john knows about vaginas.
- danielkempkens, on 07/18/2008, -4/+13I know where he could start doing it: http://tennesseepolicy.org/main/article.php?articl ...
- projectstartrek, on 07/18/2008, -2/+11I challenge us to do it by YESTERDAY!
- jgs6, on 07/18/2008, -13/+22When will people realize he is full of *****...
- urgeigh, on 07/18/2008, -3/+12How can this be any harder than putting a man on the moon?! Are you serious? We're talking a total revamp of everything that runs on fossil fuels in the country which consumes the most fossil fuels in the world. The estimates I've heard for "carbon neutralization" are in the ballpark of 20-35 trillion dollars. I don't think the space program, even if you accounted for inflation has come close to using nearly that much money from conception to this day, let alone just the costs up to getting to the moon. Even if it were at the low end of the estimates and only cost, say, 20 trillion dollars, that would KILL the United States over the next 10 years. We're already ~10 trillion in debt and the value of the dollar already blows.
- SmokedL, on 07/18/2008, -5/+14Not going renewable costs far more in the long run. Those "cheaper" alternatives like oil took hundreds of millions of years for the earth to produce, and now we are using all of it up within two centuries. Cheap? We are taking out a loan on natural resources that will take hundreds of millions of years to repay. It being cheap is an illusion. In reality, it's absurdly expensive.
There are countless things in our society that is produced from oil. And we are burning the last remaining oil like there's no tomorrow. Like there will be no consequences when it runs out.
It's much like the policies that created the current bank troubles. Only at a scale several orders of magnitude greater. It's insanity. - godzillaWax, on 07/18/2008, -3/+12Pipe dream? You said yourself, lets figure out a way to end conflicts in the middle east. This is a pretty large step in that direction.
- j0ew00ds, on 07/18/2008, -1/+9You're both stupid, but here's the point. As long as you don't complain about fuel prices when they double, you can keep driving little Timmy to school.
- Charlotte_Web, on 07/18/2008, -0/+8http://tierneylab.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/17/3-q ...
"Why hasn’t his one-year plan for energy worked at his own home? A year ago, after the embarrassing revelation that his home in Tennessee used 20 times as much electricity as the average home, he renovated his home to make it more energy-efficient. But a year later, the Tennessee Center for Policy Research reports that his home electricity usage has increased by 10 percent — an additional 1,638 kilowatts per month — since the renovations, which included solar panels, a geothermal system and a variety of conservation measures.
Does this inspire confidence in his 10-year plan for the rest of America?" - stupidStan, on 07/18/2008, -3/+11Oh ho, annoying fag in comments section. That's original.
- the6thReplicant, on 07/18/2008, -10/+18so is water but people still drown.
*thank you* *thank you* I too can argue like a 5 year old. - santaliqueur, on 07/18/2008, -0/+7HOLY ***** NO ***** WAI
- AlexWills, on 07/18/2008, -0/+7Even if he does buy carbon offsets what does that say for the poor? That they shouldn't be travelling because they can't afford to buy these offsets?
I just find it so hypocritical that the same people that claim they champion for the poor actually believe in these modern day indulgences. - apox24, on 07/18/2008, -8/+15Who said CO2 was a pollutant??!? Who said CO2 was the only greenhouse gas???! What the hell data have you been looking at to come to the direct opposite conclusion to thousands of the smartest and hardest working scientists in the field? And skip the part were you give your data as some propaganda website, give us REAL data from a technical paper or journal.
- Risingashes, on 07/18/2008, -6/+13Exxon is an emotionless corporation whose only motivation is profit maximisation- and can only legally care about secondary objectives when they directly impact profitability.
Just about every person alive cares more about the environment than Exxon. - mycatsasha, on 07/18/2008, -3/+10Exactly! Where do people think all of the money is going to come from to lower our carbon footprint? We need a better economy.
- Iztikeit, on 07/18/2008, -2/+9Day 4 Obama taking advice from global bankers (Rothschild, the usual), NAFTA and Henry Kissinger.
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