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- replaysMike, on 11/22/2008, -5/+23In Soviet Russia, the economy helps global warming.
- sanman, on 11/22/2008, -1/+11Россия, вперед!
- greenfyre, on 11/22/2008, -5/+13In the short term.
One of the problems with a lot of the climate change reporting is it talks about predictions on a time frame of 20, 30, 50 or so years in a way as to suggest that things then stabalize. This is almost certainly not the case, so it is very misleading. - gjokkel, on 11/22/2008, -0/+7Ad 2: Billions of tons of methane gas will be freed from the Siberian permafrost and methane is a 24 times stronger greenhouse gas compared to CO2.
Ad 1: Mmmm... the problem is that there is absolutely no evidence that it is NOT caused by human activity. There are, however, lots of hints that it is. None of them is "evidence", though.
But when it will be evident then it is going to be too late. So we must be sure to exclude the human factor as a possible cause. On the other hand "human activity" == "burning fossil energy" and we are going to run out of it anyways, so we'd better switch to renewable energy ASAP. - Luizzle, on 11/22/2008, -0/+7Actually, a bit of warning DOES make quite a difference.. Like Thomas Friedman says:
" the global climate system, is a lot like your body. If your body temperature goes from 98.5 to 100.6, you don't feel so good. If it goes from 100.6 to 102.6, you go to the hospital. So does Mother Nature." - frieddonuts, on 11/22/2008, -0/+6you need to calm down and think about how stupid that comment sounded.
- Isidore, on 11/22/2008, -1/+6AsylumAleikum
The scientists at NASA believe that humans are now changing this planet's climate - see their evidence and learn http://climate.jpl.nasa.gov/evidence/
Maybe they know more than you, or maybe you think they faked the moon landings as well. - thealsir, on 11/22/2008, -0/+5Just because there is no reliable scientific evidence to support something does not necessarily make it a myth. It makes it unproven.
That's beside the point though; there is evidence that CO2 concentrations have been rising and rising, well above the mean of the past 20,000 years. The fact that its rise has been so dramatic in the last 100 years points to anthropogenic causes.
As CO2 is a greenhouse gas, a higher concentration in the atmosphere will eventually lead to warming. This is proven fact. - sanman, on 11/22/2008, -0/+4meanwhile Detroit is going to implode like it was hit by an asteroid. good luck with that.
born in 78, huh? So that means you'll have nothing to retire on. - schkura, on 11/22/2008, -5/+9Maybe this will get some neocons on the green bandwagon.
- Dralha, on 11/22/2008, -0/+4No, it's a theory because it's based on solid scientific evidence (like evolution, gravity, etc.), evidence that is either ignored, distorted, or cherry-picked by global warming denialists more interested in advancing a religious/political/economic agenda than in understanding how the world works.
- xander, on 11/22/2008, -0/+3//I, on the other hand, finished my undergrad, partied/travelled the world for 5 years
wow you're so cool - jamesgray78, on 11/22/2008, -8/+11Yes, unfortunately the Russian economy will continue to be screwed by graft, nepotism, extortion, fascism, widespread general corruption, lack of desire to implement free market ideals, xenophobia, populism, the remnants of the KGB...
- Wryly, on 11/22/2008, -4/+7For now.
- wunksta, on 11/22/2008, -1/+4haha really, if you get down to it, you cant really classify russia as fascist if you are going by textbook historical examples. if you are just throwing fascism around colloquially in terms of a dictator like government then thats debatable i think
but you can use all those same things to describe america as well, just replace kgb with cia. - GT35R, on 11/22/2008, -2/+4I'm back in the USSR. You don't know how lucky you are.
- MrSlumberjack, on 11/22/2008, -0/+2No one ever said CO2 is a bad thing, but too much of a good thing can be detrimental.
- MrSlumberjack, on 11/22/2008, -0/+2So the industrial revolution began in 1000 AD?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hockey_stick_ch ...
These aren't human recorded temperatures. They are data from the reconstruction of paleoclimatic proxies (ice cores, tree rings, marine sediments, etc...) - wunksta, on 11/22/2008, -0/+2http://splendidelles.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/s ...
- monoa, on 11/22/2008, -2/+4Let's see how much benefit any single country enjoys when surrounding areas suffer drought, flooding, increased frequency and power of storms, spread of disease and non-native species. Any theoretical short term gains will quickly be engulfed by much larger problems.
- Trent1492, on 11/22/2008, -3/+5Oh, man, someone else who mistakes weather for climate. I just got to shake my head disbelief at the ignorance demonstrated
- jamesgray78, on 11/22/2008, -0/+2A theory is an absense of knowledge? That's ridiculous. A theory is based on measurable information, facts, and testings - any unknowns are discatded. Theories are the culmination of knowledge.
- inactive, on 11/22/2008, -5/+7And this is americans whining, why exactly? I though the murrcans had figured it out all for themselves, voted for a retard throwback twice, waged genocides for oil contracts - because "the american way of life is not negotiable".
So you dug a hole too deep and fell in a sewer. And the rest of the world should give a *****, why exactly? - subterfuge, on 11/22/2008, -2/+4A few hundred million years ago, the average surface temperature was a few degrees higher than it is now. however, the ice caps were entirely melted and earth's poles were so warm that crocodilians were able to live in the arctic ocean (crocodilian fossils from this period have been found on the shores of this ancient ocean). at first, one would think, "how is this possible if the surface temperature was only a few degrees higher? that would still mean the poles were below freezing?"
the current explanation is that the small increase in surface temperature increased the prevalence of cyclones that were created near the equator and moved south. these cyclones "stirred" the ocean and carried heat from the equator to the poles, melting the ice caps. so the result of global warming was not a hot equator with cold poles, but an earth whose oceans were relatively close in temperature.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19826611.200 ... - inactive, on 11/22/2008, -3/+4Global warming will be sent to Siberia for reeducation.
- inactive, on 11/23/2008, -0/+1Who says they're not? (McCain, for example, is probably as fully on the global warming bandwagon as any Democrat)... Ah, "choice."
- makbryan2, on 11/23/2008, -0/+1If this is what it takes to convince Americans to do something about climate change, so be it...
- inactive, on 11/23/2008, -0/+1extra! extra!
james gray is an idiot! - inactive, on 11/22/2008, -1/+2Yah, so? We will be talking a significantly enlarged EU by then. That's good for me.
Yanno, unilateralism. - lusenok2, on 11/23/2008, -0/+1What a joke...
Melting of permafrost will destroy gas and oil pipelines which lie there.
And Russian economy is entirely dependent on oil and gas export now. - blackturtleus, on 11/22/2008, -2/+3As the country with the largest oil reserve in the world and as a country with the largest surface area in the world (and most of it too cold to comfortably inhabit), global warming probably doesn't sound all that bad. So, myth or not there is little incentive for Russia to become involved in measures to prevent it!
- visiblepulse, on 11/22/2008, -1/+2lots of Methane under the permafrost. Whoa Nellie!
- annenk38, on 11/23/2008, -0/+1In a truly free market economy, everything and everyone is for sale. That includes services rendered by "public servants". Greasing the wheels is a well-understood concept even in the west.
- thegamingguy, on 11/22/2008, -1/+2There's a lady up in Alaska that is keeping a close eye on this dog gone it.
- gfryesc, on 11/22/2008, -5/+6How global warming helps Russia is they don't listen to Al Gore and we do. They're not about to spend 15% of GDP to limit CO2, a naturally occurring gas that is crucial to life on Earth! I think exporting liberalism to our enemies is one of the most important things we can do to compete in a world economy. If we tie them up in politically correct knots and idiotic causes, we'll be much more attractive, in macroeconomic terms.
- BootsElectric, on 11/22/2008, -0/+1And how it actually is funny because while being a successful reversal, it's still contextually true, the Russian economy adds to global warming. At least that's where I saw the joke, this is the first time in several years of visiting digg I've actually found a Russian Reversal to have a modicum of humor.
- HappyMonk, on 11/22/2008, -1/+2hopefully it will bring russian into world to connect
- stonebear, on 11/22/2008, -3/+3Unless it warms too quickly and shuts down the ocean heat conveyors. In that case, Russia will become an arctic wasteland.
- elperegrino, on 11/22/2008, -1/+1crocodilians
- dbzssj44676, on 11/23/2008, -1/+1Russians haven't heard of Global Warming. And no, you hippies will help the Russian and Chinese economy, by crushing ours.
- theadvinci, on 11/22/2008, -3/+3"This will be a great success for the Russian economy..." a success is something that comes from deliberate actions not from a global ***** up.
- snowblind113, on 11/22/2008, -1/+1no evidence global warming is not caused by human activity? how about us coming out of an ice age starting in the 2nd half of the 20th century... wow just wow
- OMnicient, on 11/23/2008, -0/+0The article noted the longer sowing season. Does anyone here know of the implications of this for not only Russia, but Canada also?
Maybe it would be worth looking at the export tax on wheat from Russia?
If they would only grow more corn... - wastelander, on 11/22/2008, -1/+1Wow, both China AND India may have the 2nd largest economy by 2025.. I wonder how many other countries may have the 2nd largest economy?
- MrSlumberjack, on 11/22/2008, -1/+1N. Atlantic thermohaline circulation doesn't really have much of an effect on Russia... mainly just northern Europe
- inactive, on 11/22/2008, -1/+1In soviet russia... globe warm you.
- inactive, on 11/22/2008, -2/+2We've been coming out of an iceage since the middle ages, and that infamous hockey stick graphic, what does that prove, we only began recording temperatures since the beginning of the industrial revolution in the first place so if temperatures were rising naturally they would coincide by happenstance with the beginnings of record keeping.
- dbzssj44676, on 11/23/2008, -1/+1Dug, for many reasons.
- inactive, on 11/22/2008, -12/+111. Global warming is a myth. There is no reliable scientific evidence that human activity causes the planet's temperatures to rise.
2. Global warming would turn permafrost-covered Siberia and Russia's Arctic into a giant cesspool of (currently frozen) mammoth *****, and make the entire area uninhabitable.
3. ‘Global Trends 2025: A Transformed World’ is a politically-motivated report tailored to the DemocRATS' radical environmental agenda. -
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