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Every box of Thin Mints you enjoy helps destroy an....

seattletimes.nwsource.com — ....Orangutan's habitat. Girl Scouts take a stand: Just say no to Thin Mints.

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  • InRussetShadows, on 04/17/2008, -60/+150I'm freaking sick to death of being made to feel guilty over things like EATING COOKIES. My gosh. Why does the left want to eliminate, reduce, or subvert for retarded socialistic ends all human pleasure? Enough already!
    • chanop, on 04/17/2008, -8/+123Your comment on Digg just killed 4 starving children in somalia
      • slvrbullet87, on 04/17/2008, -7/+10If comments on digg kill people in the third world there shouldnt be any left soon... a step in the right direction to stop over population
      • TheUngod, on 04/17/2008, -1/+1What doesn't kill starving children in somalia?
    • halobender, on 04/17/2008, -32/+56Those people are telling you to be aware of what you are buying. Why is it that so many people insist on being ignorant, stupid Americans? They know everything about American Idol and nothing about world affairs.

      /I'm an American.
      • MacParrot, on 04/17/2008, -5/+19Right, because only US Girl Scouts make cookies with these same ingredients anywhere in the world
        • mjfitzge, on 04/17/2008, -4/+10i get your point - but, i don't think that was halobender's point. the OP said that he is sick of being made to feel guilty. well it's up to the individual whether they feel guilty about something or not. it seems like he is getting upset at people for presenting him with facts about the consequences of his purchases.

          misdirected hostilities if you ask me.
      • cdahlkvist, on 04/17/2008, -4/+14Right, be aware of what you are buying. Like the magazine they sold instead of cookies. How many rain forests were destroyed for the paper needed to print on?

        The OP is spot on. There is always someone screaming death and doom over anything we do.
        • willfe, on 04/17/2008, -2/+4"There is always someone screaming death and doom over anything we do."

          Of course, the fact that almost everything we do has some kind of impact (usually negative) doesn't actually matter -- all these worry worts are just totally killing the buzz :)

          Look, I agree that this is a bit on a sensationalist side (no matter what you do, you *are* generally screwed :)), but it's nuts to just stick our heads in the sand and ignore everyone that says "by the way, when you do [X], a bunch of [Y] gets killed/consumed." We don't quite have unlimited resources, y'know :)
        • WanderlustX2, on 04/17/2008, -3/+1Hey an asteroid is going to destroy much of the earth as we know it in 21 to 28 years... So live it up on the Girl Scout cookies...
      • tuflehundon, on 04/17/2008, -7/+2Oh ya America is the route of all evil, bunch of Hippy Tree Huggers. They already said in the article that they don't use the oil from those areas, or did you forget to read the article before you commented on it.
      • Vic333, on 04/17/2008, -1/+3You know, I was one of the first to speak out against Thin Mints.
    • tenaciousdino, on 04/17/2008, -7/+33"Why does the left want to eliminate, reduce, or subvert for retarded socialistic ends all human pleasure? Enough already!"

      Yeah those 2 twelve year old girls are a couple of pinko commies i tell ya.
      • cubeblue, on 04/17/2008, -15/+4Exactly, and these two girls alone represent the entirety of "The Left".
    • cabooglio2, on 04/17/2008, -15/+3There is nothing pleasurable about eating Girl Scout cookies. I would sooner eat the box.
      • MacParrot, on 04/17/2008, -3/+7Now Girl Scouts on the other hand...wait, did I say that out loud?
        • Sibre, on 04/17/2008, -3/+1If you could please take a seat over there..
      • cdahlkvist, on 04/17/2008, -3/+12"I would sooner eat the box."

        Pedophile.
    • chronichyjinx, on 04/17/2008, -3/+2To each their own.
    • Arcesius, on 04/17/2008, -13/+18Dude, could it just be possible that something you do might, just MIGHT, not be good? Or are you entitled to anything you want just because you're an American?
      • cawpin, on 04/17/2008, -6/+3No, I'm not entitled to anything and everything because I'm an American. But am I not allowed to do anything because it may harm just one somebody?
        • EarlOfLade, on 04/17/2008, -1/+4Logical fallacy.
          Nobody said that, besides why destroy when there are better ways to achieve the same goal and which does not harm?
      • drgreenberg, on 04/17/2008, -4/+3Are you entitled to making bigoted remarks just because you believe that if someone says something you find stupid, it must be their nationality? I think the OP was ignorant, too, but it seems like you need a look in the mirror.
        • shcon, on 04/17/2008, -1/+2You know thats a good point... sometimes I jump to the "stupid American" stance pretty quickly. Its a broad statement made popular by the overwhelming apathy lots of Americans seem to have. Why are Americans an easy target? Well maybe because they consume 80-90% of the entire planet's natural resources and don't seem to think twice about the repercussions. Yes its bigoted, but I'm an American and I DON'T CARE!
      • AMSRay, on 04/17/2008, -4/+12It is not Americans ravaging those rain forests, it is the citizens and the governments of those countries who choose to do this. If some Americans wish to boycott palm oil, it is their right. If others continue buying palm oil, it is their right to buy a product that is legal to purchase and own and there is nothing wrong with them for buying it. They're not doing good or evil. It is the people cutting down the forests that are the problem. Quit trying to blame Americans for everything evil in the world. There was plenty of evil before 1776 and there will be evil long after we're ancient history.
        • EarlOfLade, on 04/17/2008, -4/+5300 million people consuming 25% of the worlds raw materials. You do the math.
        • kaluzak, on 04/17/2008, -2/+2@Earl
          we stay up late and we're hungry.

          done.
      • BTime, on 04/17/2008, -0/+28 out of 10 americans probably think so
    • prleet, on 04/17/2008, -11/+10In response to your pleasure InRussetShadows, "Worthless people live only to eat and drink; people of worth eat and drink only to live," Socrates.
      Dugg me down!
      • rogersj3, on 04/17/2008, -3/+1Will do!
      • kaluzak, on 04/17/2008, -0/+1Logical Fallacy: Appeal to Authority, although subtly done so points there.
    • Sinai, on 04/17/2008, -4/+5Rather than feeling guilty, this article made me feel better about Thin Mints since they don't have trans-saturated fats and orangutans are way too few in number too high up in the food chain have any real effect on the environment.
      • MoofTheStoof, on 04/17/2008, -2/+1Then it won't take much effort to take care of our unique cousins who surely are worth more to us than a few fields to produce palm oil.
    • Zippo, on 04/17/2008, -0/+11Not all of the "left" wants to make people feel guilty about everything. I, for one, enjoy eating cookies, meat, and fast food. Will it kill something, or me, down the road? Maybe.
      On the flip side, it is important to recognize that humans are destroying parts of the environment, though. We need to live our lives, but we need to make sure we're not ***** over the entire planet in the process.
    • directive0, on 04/17/2008, -2/+6And this is precisely why we as a species are doomed. Our selfish attitude of entitlement will be our undoing long before our greed or bloodlust.
    • rheaume, on 04/17/2008, -1/+4"Palm oil, which is produced from a fernlike plant, is grown after the rain forest is logged and burned, the agricultural technique practiced for centuries in tropical areas. The deforestation is increasing rapidly, partly because of the rising demand for palm oil, which is trans-fat-free, the girls said."

      What an ***** comment, jJust keep driving that stars and stripes hummer buddy
    • nycmac247, on 04/17/2008, -0/+3"The left" -- lulz
    • CryRightardCry, on 04/17/2008, -4/+2Yeah, god forbid being a decent human being interferes with you stuffing your face.
      Typical rightard.
      Thanks for being a poster child for selfish assholes.
      You rightards refuse to accept responsibility for ANY of your actions, why should this be different, right?
      Yep, those are those right wing attitudes that made the right wing synonymous with failure and greed.
      • linuxpenguin, on 04/18/2008, -0/+1I hereby find myself guilty of EATING COOKIES! I accept full responsibility for my cookie-eating, and acknowledge that it was I who stole the cookie from the cookie jar.
    • linuxpenguin, on 04/17/2008, -0/+2Everyone else seems to be calling you an ignorant American *****. . . so I'll just say that there's nothing I see here to show that any of the stuff they use in Girl Scout Cookies comes from their habitat. Sure, maybe this oil can come from their portion of the forest - but so what? Beef can come from the rainforest, but is that a reason to not eat hamburgers? It can come from America too - or maybe Canada, or somewhere else.
  • xdeliriumx, on 04/17/2008, -9/+6Girl Scout response in FAQ
    http://www.girlscouts.org/program/gs_cookies/faqs. ...
    • vault, on 04/17/2008, -1/+12their response is "page not found"
      • cquinnd, on 04/17/2008, -2/+3add the asp at the end that digg truncated.
    • pika, on 04/17/2008, -0/+4made it into a tinyurl just in case
      http://tinyurl.com/4djga2
      And in case u dont wanna click, here is what it says

      Q: Why do you still use tropical oils such as palm oil?

      A: Our cookie bakers tell us it is still necessary to use tropical oils for the production of compound coating. Many top bakers have tried to stop using it, but without it, their products do not meet production standards. There are currently eight varieties of Girl Scout Cookies produced by each baker licensed to produce Girl Scout Cookies. Each baker produces Girl Scout Cookie varieties without palm oil. For more information, check the bakers' Web sites:

      * Little Brownie Bakers
      * ABC/Interbake
    • toekneebullard, on 04/17/2008, -1/+10They're response to "Why do you use palm oils?" is essentially, "Cause without Palm Oil, there's no cookies..."
    • apackofmonkeys, on 04/17/2008, -3/+10From TFA: "She also said that ABC Bakers, which produces cookies sold by the council, has committed to using palm oil grown on rehabilitated or previously cleared land rather than on land that is deforested specifically for palm-oil production."
      So.... Thin Mints don't even contribute to the deforestation? These girls have just been brainwashed by the knee-jerk environmentalist influence in our schools, where the short-term gain is more important to them than the long-term ramifications.

      Other examples of knee-jerk environmentalism:
      --"Hydrogen cells are clean and earth friendly, contribute tax dollars or you hate the earth!" A lot of money later, we find that the production of hydrogen cells pollutes just as bad our current cars, so the enviros back off.
      --"Change to more expensive flourescent bulbs to save engery or you hate the earth!" Then we find out that the bulbs contain enough mercury that we have to spend huge $$$ to dispose of them, or else both the earth and our health is polluted.
      --"Palm oil is low in trans-fats, and the government should be our mommy and make us eat less trans fats." This one isn't enviromentalist, but leftist in general, and now we see that the increased need for low-trans fat items is killing monkeys.
      --"Ethanol is our energy savior! Give tons of taxpayer money to farmers to just grow corn!" For the first time in years, the shearing of the rainforest in Brazil has actually increased, because the farmers all want in on the corn -for-ethanol profit. And it's the biggest reason for the increase in food prices, which hits the poor the hardest, a group the left supposedly cares the most about. Besides, E85 gas may be cheaper, but you get much lower MPG, and have to stop and refuel more. And refueling itself leaks an amount of chemicals into the air.
      The point is: STOP KNEE-JERK ENVIRONMENTALISM, and embrace an environmentalism that considers all consequences. It's no different than Bush's mentality: Bush wants to promote democracy (a good thing), but didn't consider all the consequences before acting ($$$ wasted, lives spent on both sides). Do things that help the environment without negative consequences, like picking up trash, buying fuel-efficient cars, supporting companies that promote low energy usage in their products, etc, etc. It's the intelligent thing to do.
      • skilless, on 04/17/2008, -0/+3I'd be interested in citations for any of your points, particularly on the mercury in CFLs. Measuring by mercury alone a CFL that lasts 5 years will have a net loss in mercury when powered by a coal plant (depending on where you are, this may be quite likely). When you consider all other polutants, from many other possible methods of generating electricity, the difference is starkly in favor of CFLs.

        Also, remember that CFLs are just compact versions of the fluorescent lighting used in businesses for decades, so proper disposal of these lights as it relates to mercury is already established and available nearly anywhere.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_fluorescent_l ...

        Furthermore, just to drive the point home, any right-wing or otherwise self-interested person that choses to ignore the environmental advantages of CFLs should still use them due to the fact that they undeniably save their users money. Basically, anyone who doesn't use CFLs by claiming that it has some disadvantage is likely just resistant to change; by every measure CFLs are an improvement over the incandescent bulbs they replace.
        • apackofmonkeys, on 04/17/2008, -1/+0I do, in fact, use CFLs myself because of the long-term cost savings, and I'm aware of what needs to be done in an emergency. But they are so hazardous that there are twelve steps you have to perform to clean a broken one up. TWELVE steps, including immediately ventilating your whole house, and shutting off your central heating and air system for the next several times your vacuum:

          http://www.epa.gov/mercury/spills/index.htm#fl

          So for governments to ban incandenscents and force you to use CFLs instead, (Australia, attempts in American states, see the wikipedia article you cited) is a very irresponsble government invasion of your privacy and health, especially considering the special instructions for breakage and disposal aren't printed on the box CFLs come in. There's scarcely any up-front consumer education on the risks.
          As for the mercury from coal plants, as you can see in the same wikipedia article you cited, there's only a small net loss in the switch to CFLs, but the biggest difference is that instead of it dissipating in billions of cubic feet of air, it's now packed and concentrated right in your home, with a level 100 times the reccomended maximum level of chronic exposure. (http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2008/02/ ...

          For the hydrogen problems, see here: http://www.communitysolution.org/fcf-8.html and the chemical equations here (scroll down a bit): http://www.thenewatlantis.com/archive/15/zubrin.ht ...

          For ethanol's rainforest destruction and poor-starving see here: http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=biofuels-bad-f ... and here: http://news.mongabay.com/2007/1213-amazon_corn_sub ...

          There's some citations you wanted.
  • vault, on 04/17/2008, -24/+69Sounds like these two girl scouts couldn't compete and sell enough cookies so now they're acting like they didn't want to sell them in the first place.

    Anyway, I would much rather have a box of thin mints than another orangutan in the world.
    • Forsakenmantra, on 04/17/2008, -0/+2I have a box on my desk right now...but its only got 1 sleeve in it. Does that mean I can only destroy 1/2 a habitat before I go home from work?
  • HookmasterCH47, on 04/17/2008, -21/+98***** Orangutans. Thin Mints FTW!
    • techweenie1, on 04/17/2008, -0/+3***** little brainwashed lesbian libtard *****...Thin Mints FTW!
    • TheUngod, on 04/17/2008, -0/+1So I get to kill Orangutans AND eat cookies? Killing 2 birds!...er...Orangutans!
  • boxoman, on 04/17/2008, -12/+21Orangutans are not allowed to eat cookies anyway, so why does it matter?
    • dayalsoap, on 04/17/2008, -2/+1We should just completely whipe out any animals that we don't crop for food so the hippie tree huggers will have nothing to complain about.

      Who cares about the food chain, we can just manufacture and farm everything we need.
  • elevatedms, on 04/17/2008, -9/+67Orangutans leave a greasy film in my mouth for hours, I prefer Thin Mints.
    • MacParrot, on 04/17/2008, -1/+4Yes but as Clint Eastwood showed us they're also capable of driving cars and being indescribably cute...well and also able to rip us to shreds if we really piss them off and they figure out the whole commute to US cities thing
      • heliox, on 04/17/2008, -1/+11Likewise, Charlton Heston showed they can be mean, maniacal assholes.
      • TekTrixter, on 04/17/2008, -0/+1Right turn, Clyde
    • itsgotyou, on 04/17/2008, -2/+3you shouldn't be sucking on those. or at least wash them first before you do.
    • marcusbrutus, on 04/17/2008, -0/+1Elevatedms FTW
    • Sinnic, on 04/17/2008, -0/+2You've got a future in endorsements, my son.
  • dagr8tim, on 04/17/2008, -10/+31That reminds me, I have an open box of thin mints on the counter. BRB.............

    Mmmmmmm.......Endangered Primates............
  • slappy83, on 04/17/2008, -4/+105"Although the two have sold many boxes of cookies over the years, this year they sold magazines instead."
    So I guess orangutans don't need trees.
    • noahhoward, on 04/17/2008, -0/+13baZING!
    • tuflehundon, on 04/17/2008, -1/+2That's just like most Hippy Tree Huggers. I have had the left wing Hippy Vegetarians argue with me about eating meat, and they are wearing really expensive leather shoes, and carrying a leather purse. They jump on the bandwagon for one thing only to do something else just as bad.
      • techweenie1, on 04/17/2008, -0/+3I really wish it was legal to eat left wing hippy vegetarians...but I have a feeling they won't taste very good.
    • badenglishihave, on 04/17/2008, -0/+2Undoubtedly they used recycled paper for their magazines. That way they could feel good about themselves while ignoring the toxic waste that is generated from paper recycling processes in a plant.
      • techweenie1, on 04/17/2008, -0/+4I'm pretty sure they also produced a lot of "smug" throughout the process...which is also bad for the environment in addition to human to human relations.
    • soupnrc, on 04/17/2008, -1/+3I wish I could digg you up 5... 6 times.
    • nevpayne, on 04/18/2008, -0/+4Its as ironic as the pro-Tibet activist with "made in china" stamped on everything.
  • VIPAccess, on 04/17/2008, -7/+5I can't they are far too delicious.
  • mst3kcrow, on 04/17/2008, -5/+12Save an Orangutan, eat a Brownie.
    • diggstown, on 04/17/2008, -1/+5Save a Thin Mint, eat an Orangutan.
      • mst3kcrow, on 04/17/2008, -0/+1But they're not delicious and moist!
        • texpundit, on 04/17/2008, -0/+5Then you're roasting them too long or over too high heat.
    • pentalive, on 04/17/2008, -1/+2NO! Brownies endanger snail monkeys in Tasmainia you insensitive clod!
      And candy causes global warming^H^H^H^H^H^H^H cooling.
      Here have a nice rutabaga.
    • TekTrixter, on 04/17/2008, -0/+6Take a seat over there...
    • edwartica, on 04/17/2008, -0/+1Maybe special brownies instead.
    • turkoftheplains, on 04/17/2008, -0/+4I see what you did there (and so does Chris Hansen.)
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  • MacParrot, on 04/17/2008, -6/+10But it's only wafer thin...
    Oh...all right
    BOOM!
    • MacParrot, on 04/17/2008, -1/+2No Monty Python fans?
      • iguanapunk, on 04/17/2008, -0/+3Yes but everybody who came onto the comments page wanted to put that quote and you took that from us, therefore you're dugg down you bastard!
        • MacParrot, on 04/17/2008, -0/+2That's because I'm SO much smarter than everyone else!
          (Good God, please for the sake of killing my ego digg this down)
      • plainOldFool, on 04/17/2008, -0/+1Bring me a bucket
      • nevpayne, on 04/18/2008, -0/+1Une bucket for monsieur!
  • insanecee, on 04/17/2008, -9/+4You can't eat Samoas either its made with coconuts from the coconut palm a member of the palm tree... that will hurt them too lol give me a break.
  • RogaDanar, on 04/17/2008, -8/+23If I can't eat my Thin Mints, the terrorists win.
  • drmangrum, on 04/17/2008, -6/+45Buried for misleading title. Palm oil is in lots of products, Girl Scout cookies being near the bottom of that list. Would be more appropriate to boycott items with palm oil in them. Too bad consumers have short attention spans.
  • jlowe64, on 04/17/2008, -3/+17....so they stop selling palm oil infested thin mints for magazines? WTF? Aren't magazines made of paper?

    Slippery slope, indeed.
    • jonmlm, on 04/17/2008, -2/+2um. often it's recycled paper. which hasn't been a tree in quite a long time.
    • drmangrum, on 04/17/2008, -0/+5There are tree groves that are n harvest rotations specifically for paper production. Very little, if any, paper is made from old growth forests.
      • AlanLivingston, on 04/17/2008, -0/+1I don't remember where I was, but my Dad was driving and I was staring out the window and I saw a field of thin trees all planted in rows. The field (what I could see of it) was surrounded by a pretty tall chain link fence. I remember thinking, who's gonna steal trees.

        Anyway, when I looked over to my Dad to point this out to him, I noticed a big Weyerhauser building on the left. I don't think this field was for production. I assumed it was for research, but I really don't know.
        • thesonofdarwin, on 04/17/2008, -0/+2The fence is to keep deer and similar growth-destroying creatures out till the trees have a chance to grow above their reach, which is extremely high. Your state Forest & Wildlife division is likely responsible, but universities and corporations also use these for research as you suggested. It's the perfect place to go for a university-level Ecology class to see the distinction between growth free of wildlife destruction and without.

          Oh, I just wanted to add, tree theft actually happens quite often. It's not totally uncommon for individuals to have old, larger trees cut down from their front yards while they aren't home.
      • kaluzak, on 04/17/2008, -1/+0So, since the paper the magazines are created from is regulated, it's ok to sell magazines. By that same methodology, since the Oil in Girl Scout Cookies comes, not from burned rain forests, from regulated lots, it's ok to sell Girl Scout cookies.

        I blame the parents....one of whom is probably name Wind, or Apple.
    • tuflehundon, on 04/17/2008, -0/+0Yes, I live in Fl were we have several forests that are used for paper production and for lumber. Them will clear cut an area on summer, and then come back the next year to start a new area and replant the area from the previos year. They have a several year rotation for this. In some areas they do use the fences to keep deer out of these areas until the trees are tall enouph. This also make s these areas a good spot to hunt.
  • kcmedic, on 04/17/2008, -1/+18"Palm-oil production leads to conflict between orangutans and people, the girls said."

    That sucks. Thin Mints are my favorite. I think it's the conflict that makes them taste so damn good.
    • SpaceMonkeyZero, on 04/17/2008, -0/+1It's all that adrenaline coursing through the thin mints' veins.
    • pentalive, on 04/17/2008, -0/+0I liked the lemony ones better anyway.
    • mindwax, on 04/17/2008, -0/+1Mmm conflict cookies.
  • davewashere, on 04/17/2008, -3/+23Wait a second, the production of palm oil used in Girl Scout cookies was causing the destruction of Orangutans habitat, so the girls decided to sell magazines instead? Let's not tell them what magazines are made from.
    • coollettuce, on 04/17/2008, -1/+9Trees that were specifically grown for use in paper?
    • jonmlm, on 04/17/2008, -3/+1recycled materials? yea, i'm sure they wouldn't understand that like some diggers
      • coollettuce, on 04/17/2008, -2/+5Recycling paper is retarded. It takes more energy than using new tress.
        Watch this if you don't believe me.
        http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-144439167 ...
        • AlanLivingston, on 04/17/2008, -2/+1Penn and Teller being the leading authorities on energy use during paper manufacturing, of course.

          I always kind of thought the whole reason for the "*****!" series was to make people think for themselves. I'm waiting for P&T to do a "*****!" episode on how "*****!" is *****. They could spend 15 minutes of the episode pointing out all the people quoting their show as "proof" right here on Digg.
        • jonmlm, on 04/17/2008, -1/+1um. retarded or not - the point is that it was suggested that their magazines have to be made of the exact trees in which orangutans live.
      • morpheus69, on 04/17/2008, -0/+4Right on! Trees are a renewable resource. Why is it people say "save the trees" but they don't say "save the corn?" They are both resources that are grown and can easily be planted and cultivated to meet demand.
        • SpaceMonkeyZero, on 04/17/2008, -0/+1They read The Lorax one too many times as a kid.
        • thesonofdarwin, on 04/17/2008, -1/+2Corn is not a serious habitat for an extremely large proportion of species, it's short-lived, and it's replaced very quickly. Trees/Forests on the other hand provide homes to a significant number of the known animal species, they are replaced very slowly compared to their consumption rate, and in most situations aren't replanted to help replenish what was lost. Habitat destruction is a very, very serious problem that the majority of the population will not realize until it's too late.
      • aladrin, on 04/17/2008, -0/+2Read the article next time. The company that makes the cookies only uses palm oil that was grown on land that was previously cleared. They are -not- responsible for the deforestation, just as much as the recycled paper isn't.
  • joeyGibson, on 04/17/2008, -3/+6Thin Mints? Pah! Samoas, FTW!
    • jjpertusch, on 04/17/2008, -0/+3i moved to philadelphia and samoas are called "caramel delights" there. no one would hear me out when i told them the real name was samoas so i did some research and apparently there are two different bakeries and where you get your cookies from depends on the shipping costs. same cookies and same organizations, but i guess one doesn't like the word samoa.

      samoas ftw
    • Taiyoryu, on 04/17/2008, -0/+0bump!
    • TsuruchiBrian, on 04/17/2008, -0/+1Dugg for being 100% correct.
  • plizard, on 04/17/2008, -7/+4instead of palm oil, they should just use foot oil.
  • insanecee, on 04/17/2008, -3/+2You can't eat Samoas either because they have coconuts in them and the coconut is part of the coconut palm a member of the palm tree family... damn these girl scouts.......
    • DreKor, on 04/17/2008, -0/+7No, you can't eat Samoas because they're made with parts of endangered Samoans.
  • displaced1, on 04/17/2008, -5/+16I think if the Orangutan's got to taste the thin mint cookies, they would understand why we need thier land/homes.
  • hughesj919, on 04/17/2008, -4/+12helps destroy your wallet at 4 bucks a box...
    • SpaceMonkeyZero, on 04/17/2008, -0/+4I swear it's a shakedown. 5 neighborhood girls come knocking at your door a day apart (or all in one day!) and demand you buy cookies. Then you go into work, and the parents of the lazy girl scouts are pressuring you to buy cookies so their poor Sally doesn't have to go door to door...
  • BoneStamp, on 04/17/2008, -6/+9From article, "Although the two have sold many boxes of cookies over the years, this year they sold magazines instead." So, they're cool with deforestation for paper but not for palm oil? I guess they're 12, so although it doesn't make a lot of sense, it's better than hanging out at the mall.
    • tuflehundon, on 04/17/2008, -0/+2They can't see the animals that deforestation harts so they don't care.
  • jlunski, on 04/17/2008, -5/+2Have tree, must hug... UGH!
  • mattgarcia, on 04/17/2008, -3/+2Eff that, I want my thin mints either way!
  • maxer64, on 04/17/2008, -2/+1Only in Ann Arbor. Sadly I bought Thin Mints outside of the Union maybe a month ago. Must've been these girls' competition.
  • billflu, on 04/17/2008, -3/+3The alternative to the palm oil probably ruins some other animals habitat... there's no winning here, except for the tasty cookies.
  • D14BL0, on 04/17/2008, -4/+4Which would I rather have? A box of thin mints which make me feel warm and fuzzy inside, or an orangutan who's done nothing in it's life other than throw its feces around?

    ***** the orangutans. Give me my thin mints.
    • drmangrum, on 04/17/2008, -3/+1You're thinking of chimpanzees. Orangutans are usually very docile animals; except when the males wander into town and throw a temper tantrum. If you can find it, look for the video of it. You quickly learn to appreciate the strength they have at their disposal.
  • ViciousSquallD, on 04/17/2008, -3/+3I feel bad about damn near everything I consume already, but I will be damned if I feel guilty about Thin Mints. Those guys are little disks of heaven.
  • PyrosMagus, on 04/17/2008, -4/+3So Thin Mints are made with real Orangutans...Awesome.
  • noahhoward, on 04/17/2008, -2/+6... oh well.
  • PacketScan, on 04/17/2008, -2/+3Ok, So instead of taking out rain forest for palm oil, it's ok to do it for paper?
  • licoricewhip, on 04/17/2008, -5/+2I snore in this general direction.
  • fr3ddie, on 04/17/2008, -7/+1we need cookies to survive????? (fat people dont answer this question)
  • 1timeuser, on 04/17/2008, -2/+2nom nom nom.
  • Raian, on 04/17/2008, -7/+1When are people going to realize boy scouts and girl guides are just vile organizations created by a freakishly religious man who enjoyed taking pictures of little boys naked.... and I am not joking.
  • therealkdog, on 04/17/2008, -5/+17"She also said that ABC Bakers, which produces cookies sold by the council, has committed to using palm oil grown on rehabilitated or previously cleared land rather than on land that is deforested specifically for palm-oil production"

    So STFU hoes and NOM NOM NOM on some cookies.
    • CygnusTM, on 04/17/2008, -0/+8So Thin Mints aren't even made from the palm oil that threatens the habitats?!? Buried as inaccurate.
  • cabooglio2, on 04/17/2008, -1/+4I understand how one could be put off by the constant barrage of "socially aware" consumerism that is so popular of late. However, any intelligent person should see value in being given to option to make informed decisions about what we buy. Willful ignorance is a sure sign of personal weakness. If you can't handle knowing the effect you have on the world, just don't read about it. Sit quietly in the dark and eat your cookies. The rest of us are curious.

    ... plus, Girl Scout cookies suck out loud.
  • tjmosback, on 04/17/2008, -4/+5Thin Mints are definitely more delicious than Orangutans. I'm not stopping.
  • YodaJones, on 04/17/2008, -2/+4Orangutans, like Pandas, are the new chicken.
    • tuflehundon, on 04/17/2008, -0/+0Monkey meat is a little stringier than Chicken, Cat tastes better. Hey when you are in Asia don't ask what it is just eat it.
  • xhb1, on 04/17/2008, -3/+2"Although the two have sold many boxes of cookies over the years, this year they sold magazines instead." HAH, wtf? Like selling magazines doesn't cause deforestation...very smart...
    • mashw, on 04/17/2008, -0/+1Actually most of the time it doesn't.
    • shcon, on 04/17/2008, -0/+1haven't you heard of recycling? What did you time-warp here from the 80's??
  • prleet, on 04/17/2008, -2/+0Sounds like another dog needs to be killed by a Marine in order for these diggers to come to their senses again..ooops wait, dog is greater than a monkey/sarcasm
    • vbeast, on 04/17/2008, -0/+0The Orangutan is a member of the great ape family first of all, and second, yes Dog's are better than Apes. Otherwise we'd all have Apes for pets.
  • WileyK, on 04/17/2008, -5/+2Totally worth it. Thin Mints are ***** delicious.
  • PiratedTVPro, on 04/17/2008, -4/+3You know what then? Screw Orangutans. Thin Mints are one of my few guilty pleasures in life and I'll be damned if an Orangutan is going to ruin them for me.
  • jcaino, on 04/17/2008, -0/+9but are they made with real girl scouts?
  • noahhoward, on 04/17/2008, -1/+6"... ABC Bakers, which produces cookies sold by the council, has committed to using palm oil grown on rehabilitated or previously cleared land rather than on land that is deforested specifically for palm-oil production. Raycraft also provided a letter from the company saying it is researching how to use as little palm oil as possible.

    advertising

    The girls said the explanation does not satisfy them and they plan to continue their boycott."

    So the explanation that Thin Mints DON'T cause any harm to the environment doesn't satisfy them? Now they're just ***** with my cookies, I say we dump them in the rainforest.
    • fredhag, on 04/17/2008, -0/+1I wouldn't take the explanation either. ABC Bakers are just one customer of palm oil. The suppliers can send them rehab/cleared-land palm oil but then they need to sell the newly-cleared-land palm oil to someone else. I don't fault ABC because that's all a customer can do shy of switching ingredients.

      I'm with the 3+ commenters about magazines being questionably better than the cookies.
      • noahhoward, on 04/17/2008, -0/+1Yeah that's no excuse. If you boycott the ones that ARE doing good then you put them out of business you are left with the problem. How about they do some research and campaign against the real culprits?
    • plainOldFool, on 04/17/2008, -0/+3Getting gay with kids is here ....
  • Arcesius, on 04/17/2008, -4/+6Holy *****, after reading all these comments, there goes my perception that Digg has environmentalist leanings. No one cares about Orangutans, though? Sad! =(
    • soupdawg30, on 04/17/2008, -2/+2No we just really like Thin Mints...
    • EarlOfLade, on 04/17/2008, -2/+4Sad reading indeed. Ignorance is flourishing in the US and it was made obvious through the comments to this article.
      • techweenie1, on 04/17/2008, -1/+2Nope we are just doing our part to reduce smug, it's pretty epidemic you see.
    • shcon, on 04/17/2008, -0/+1Seriously, this is un-*****-believable!!
  • oakj423, on 04/17/2008, -0/+6side note: one of my friends is on the thin mints box. she's the asian girl in a bike helmet with braces. ...boxes haven't changed in 15+ years
  • tcorlen, on 04/17/2008, -5/+17If hooking up an Orangutan to a car battery will get me more Thin Mints, I only have two things to say: Red is positive and Black in negative.
  • morpheus69, on 04/17/2008, -1/+1OK, here's why this is so ***** stupid. And NO, I am not going to be the 20th person to mention that magazines are made from trees.
    The real reason palm oil production is skyrocketing is BIO-DIESEL which is made primarily from palm oil. And what's the reason for the skyrocketing demand for bio diesel? New European regulations that favor bio diesel over other fuels in order to "save the environment."
    So, eat your thin mints and blame the dead orangutans on European environmentalists.
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