What is Digg?78 Comments
- JMellissa, on 09/23/2008, -6/+34Nothing wrong with this planet except an infestation of humans!
- Someguy101, on 02/19/2009, -3/+23Great video! I love seeing articles like this that help people understand our effect on life in the ocean. I don't think people do things maliciously, they just don't realize there is a problem until those that spend their lives studying it say something. So yeah, it's great to see stories like this getting some exposure.
The ocean isn't like land. Seemingly insignificant things like sonar in this example or trash or other types of pollution, warming of the oceans, and on and on have much farther reaching impact in the marine environment than most people may realize. It's important to be extra careful so that we don't accidentally damage delicate aquatic ecosystems. - jonamerica, on 09/23/2008, -3/+21Yeah, the ocean is pretty loud. Sometimes I wish it would just stop with it's splashing all night. "HEY, OCEAN! Some of us are tying to sleep!"
- badwithcomputer, on 09/22/2008, -8/+26save the fish so i can eat them later as sushi
- Mangoose, on 09/23/2008, -3/+15Frightening.
- Kurlumbenus, on 09/23/2008, -1/+12"Sleeping with the fishes is getting a lot harder these days. And not because the FBI finally has the mob on the run, either"
This is horribly written. - andj, on 09/23/2008, -2/+11this information needs more exposure, we are doing considerable damage to oceans, and i for one was not that aware sonar waves have on whales and other sea creatures.
- Dumbledorito, on 09/23/2008, -2/+11New? Carl Sagan mentioned this in his "Cosmos" program in the 70's.
- gridity, on 09/23/2008, -1/+10Quality of life comes with a price:
- endangered species
- totally extinct species
- polluted water
- polluted farmland
- polluted air
Perhaps we need to start rethinking this "quality" of our lives again. We'd be a lot better off if we weren't polluting the whole world with our amazing feats of "technology" - we'd have fresh air, clean water and great soil, and we could actually SHARE all this with the other forms of life on this planet, instead of taking it away from everyone - including ourselves. - iamghost, on 09/23/2008, -0/+9i blame Death Magnetic for the Ocean noise pollution.
@Metallica...please stop making music. - john570, on 09/23/2008, -3/+10Umm... How is this new??? It has been a known problem for over three decades.
- munawarali2, on 09/23/2008, -1/+5If you read the article, you'll see that it's killing fish. I don't think it's "Too environmentally" concerned when fish are dieing, and it requires only a little bit of work on our part.
- AtraNoxVII, on 09/23/2008, -3/+7That is without doubt the most ignorant, arrogant, egotistical, bastardish thing I've heard today. You sir are an ass.
- inactive, on 09/23/2008, -0/+4Strangely, you're pic is of a cute young lady, yet you comment like a 14-year-old knobhead.
- edrodgers731, on 09/23/2008, -0/+4Yeah, like at the start of world war II when the Germans were sinking merchant ships off our east coast. We didn't have sonar (or radar), and everything was fine. Except for the tens of thousands of people that died because we couldn't see the u-boats at night.
But both of the beluga whales in the area were happy.
/s - CyphreDias, on 09/23/2008, -3/+7Yea! we all need to go. You first. Make yourself carbon neutral!!!!
- reyalp, on 09/23/2008, -2/+5It's Global Noising!
- stealthc, on 09/23/2008, -0/+3The heart of the environmentalist argument right there. "Humans are a disease." Take it to its logical conclusion, and you'll find the environmentalism movement sharing several ambitions with the insane few among the power elite who would like to see 4 billion people exterminated for the sake of "sustainability."
- inactive, on 09/23/2008, -0/+3*your
-self-inflicting spelling nazi - StrangeFamous, on 09/23/2008, -1/+3It makes me wonder if this is part of the reason why whales and other sea mammals beach themselves for seemingly no reason.
Since they rely on sonar for navigation, it makes sense that they would get confused by all the different noises and lose their sense of direction. - MorganMghee, on 09/24/2008, -0/+23/4 of the planet is ocean. the ocean is murky and hard to see in. how many of the oceans lifeforms do you think evolved to use hearing as a primary sense ahead of vision? why would you think that a whales song evolved to be heard a thousand miles away if they didn't need it? nature doesn't commonly waste resources.
Please Vote YES on Education. - Someguy101, on 02/19/2009, -0/+2I'm not sure if we saw the same video. The whole video was the citing of facts, with video to back it up. Maybe you're not picking up on it because you haven't been studying a particular pod of whales over a long period of time. They observed a difference in behavior when sonar was present, very clear and distinct changes in behavior.
If fact checking and research is your concern all you need to do is google "documented effects of sonar on whales" or something similar. There are tons of articles listing various incidents, do you think that all of these observed incidents were due to something other than SONAR? Not all of these sources are unbiased but some of them have a decent level of credibility. - kmand, on 09/23/2008, -1/+3A hundred years ago we all lived without sonar. No one seemed particularly sad for not having it.
- kmand, on 09/23/2008, -0/+2I wasn't saying that it is possible for any one country to stop using new technology, I was just saying that we as a species do not actually need any of these technological "advancements" to exist or even be content.
Of course we also can't make humankind as a whole go back to a lower state of technology. That would require some sort of a cataclysm or something (like an overpopulation problem).
@edrodgers731: so when we did get sonar and radar, things went great all the sudden and people stopped dying in ww2? Offensive technologies advanced together with defensive ones. Besides, would those tens of thousands of people have died on those ships if not for the advancements in our "quality of life" and technology that brought to us the u-boat? - IamZed, on 09/23/2008, -1/+3This is new if you just heard about it, I guess.
- rye425, on 09/23/2008, -0/+2Kill all humans...Kill all humans...Hey sexy mama, wanna kill all humans?
- kmand, on 09/23/2008, -1/+3You might have heard somewhere that we are killing of a large part of the marine ecology. While most of this is caused by overfishing and overconsumption of fish, as you described, there are other factors, like marine noise pollution, which are a lot easier to get rid of.
Also, this is from Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish_%28food%29#Consu ...
"Fish is consumed as food all over the world; with other seafoods, it provides the world's prime source of high-quality protein: 14–16% of the animal protein consumed world-wide; over one billion people rely on fish as their primary source of animal protein."
If you cannot bring yourself to be concerned about other species, then perhaps you will care about your own. - evilregis, on 09/23/2008, -1/+3Fish are always eating other fish. If fish could scream, the ocean would be loud as *****. You would not want to submerge your head, nothing but fish going "Ahhh, *****! I thought I looked like that rock!"
Mitch was the man. - Jkylman, on 09/23/2008, -0/+2So Apparently Rock and Roll IS noise pollution.
- N2KINDOM, on 09/23/2008, -2/+4Thank you for this important story and for using this video to further impress upon us our significant environmental impact. We do have the power to choose, harness and direct the ways in which we impact our ecosystems.
- Bith8654, on 09/23/2008, -0/+2@kmand: I'm sorry but that's the way it is with any tech, we managed without it before but would be put at a severe disadvantage it we just stopped using it, because our rivals wouldn't. It's the same with nukes, we were fine without them but we can't get rid of them now since the rest of the world won't. Hell it can be applied to just about anything; cars, guns, boats, etc.
- icndvl, on 09/23/2008, -0/+1This isn't the cold war, there aren't enemy submarines looking to sink your ships, and even if there are, they are not hostile. Is detecting them that important? Also what kind of retarded submarine crew is gonna waltz into range of a boat delivering a 5000 mile radius beckon.
- slapthemonkey, on 09/23/2008, -1/+2Helpless beings are affected, naturally
- inactive, on 09/23/2008, -0/+1I was thinking the same thing
- john570, on 09/27/2008, -0/+1Oh. You must have been born yesterday.
- AtraNoxVII, on 09/23/2008, -3/+4Environmental nazi? Hardly.
I just condemn human activity that is purely based upon greed, egotism, and ignorance that impacts and harms...which pretty much condemns all human activity, you're right, which is more sad than it should be. - donsmini92102, on 09/23/2008, -7/+8Complete and utter trash. No facts cited, simply opinion except that it was someone Else's opinion with no fact checking or research.
The fact is that there is no link to the deaths of any marine mammals and Navy SONAR other than the two being in the same ocean. The death of mammals is of course a terrible thing, but being on those ships for 22 years, as a sonar-man, I've seen the SONAR working with the mammals around observing no ill effects. There is something going on, and it needs to be researched and corrected, but it's not SONAR. - edrodgers731, on 09/23/2008, -0/+1@kmand: Yes actually. People stopped dying in the Atlantic because of radar and sonar. As soon as we sunk most of their subs, the Atlantic has been a very safe place since. SOSUS kept us safe during the cold war, and the current active net will keep us safer from rogue diesel sub threats from any group that feels like buying a cheap Kilo class from Russia or China.
Not only that.. Ever been on a cruise ship? How do you think they know the water depth? That would be sonar. Without it, they would run aground frequently, kind of like they did before sonar.
You want oil tankers to start scraping bottom because they don't know the depth below them?
How do marine mammals navigate? Oh, yeah. Sonar. I wonder if they disorient other species that are trying to use the same frequencies.
Sonar is your friend. That's a fact.
There is a reason we are intentionally causing a few whales to lose their bearings. It is a good reason, and it should be considered before we talk about going without it.
We were fine before computers as well. Maybe you should just turn yours off and go about your business. - talonstriker, on 09/23/2008, -1/+2I always get woken up in the middle of the night by gunshots. ***** noise pollution.
(I live in PG County, MD) - mouthymadness, on 09/23/2008, -0/+1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGoi1MSGu64
- calOchat, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1 You sure did surprised me, i actually thought you might have given me reasons why you wrote such a dumb ***** statement in the first place.
- stealthc, on 09/23/2008, -1/+2No it's not. It's about returning the environment to some imaginary Eden state which includes either the extermination of humanity or a return to the caves.
Environmentalists are the ones who make cute little videos comparing humans to terminal diseases. - wunksta, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1haha oh lulz
- wunksta, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1take some responsibility man, we cant just live like slobs and not expect any repercussions.
- MorganMghee, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1and the pub's kept that case in court until just a few weeks ago, they finally lost. i'm sure there will be yet another appeal, but for now, unless this stays in the headlines people will forget.
- inactive, on 09/23/2008, -0/+1Very ironic in calling me dumb but not being smart enough yourself to use the right form of "you're." Idiot.
- mouthymadness, on 09/23/2008, -1/+2It's new to the people born recently.
- robopuppy, on 09/23/2008, -1/+2This is a big problem if you actually work in noise analysis and know something about it, unlike all of the doubters in these comments. The main location where this is going on is somewhere very cold, oily, and governed by a sarcastic harpy. These are very fragile environments, and much more studying needs to be done to avoid severely damaging the environment. It's easy to talk about noise on land, but even the biological effects on land animals have not been well-studied or use strange and sometimes ridiculously stupid metrics. You'll just have to trust me, because it is a highly specialized field.
Too bad that offshore drilling will just make it a much bigger problem, especially since they will undoubtedly rush these studies and put incredible pressure on those involved to give them a pass. Big environmental consulting firms are paid lots of money by other, much larger energy firms to conduct underwater biological noise surveys in regions where drilling may or may not be taking/schedule to take place. -
Show 51 - 80 of 80 discussions
The Digg Toolbar for Firefox lets you Digg, submit content, and keep track of Digg even when you're not on the Digg site. Download the official 
© Digg Inc. 2009
— Content created and posted by Digg users is