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- SeaweedWater, on 05/19/2008, -9/+23611.Paris Hilton
- Nidy1, on 05/19/2008, -1/+87Dugg for only one page.
- chazizzle, on 05/19/2008, -12/+91where's pamela anderson?
- crazyjake, on 05/19/2008, -8/+84there is about 100+ mom jokes here...
- deathweaver108, on 05/19/2008, -2/+62RIP Gandalf
- badassninja, on 05/19/2008, -1/+35This page made me wish I was bad ass and able to explore places like this.
- inactive, on 05/19/2008, -2/+33The list of deepest caves keeps changing. During the last three years, there have been three caves that have been found to be the deepest in the world. People are still at this very moment researching and exploring caves. In the last decade the list of the deepest caves has been changed 7 times.
- Checkerd, on 05/19/2008, -4/+32You're mom's cave is so deep, you had to walk 15 miles just to be born.
/lame - maelnum, on 05/19/2008, -3/+2612. Your mom
13. Still your mom.
14. This cave in France....just kidding, still your mom. - comicalZombie, on 05/19/2008, -1/+21Just watch out for Deep Crows...
- mareacaspica, on 05/19/2008, -10/+25so can i like get to the center of the earth and stuff ? :D
- BXRWXR, on 05/19/2008, -9/+20It's Your Mom.
Get it right, you dumb *****. - insomniacal, on 05/19/2008, -0/+11Too bad photos can't convey the size of these caves.
I've been to Mammoth Cave, Kentucky several times. Multiple tours available, each one several hours' trek. Always worth the trip. - inactive, on 05/19/2008, -0/+11You could get her pregnant and get a free ride like KFed.
- domfosnz, on 05/19/2008, -1/+11You just got to be careful you don't fall out the other side.
- div2n, on 05/19/2008, -0/+10All the caves I've ever known do what cave folk call "breathe" where the air flows in and out depending on a variety of factors including temperature and air pressure of outside vs inside the cave.
Keep in mind also that many caves have multiple entrances which assist in air flow. - jasdf, on 05/19/2008, -1/+11I realize they are deep, but how far below sea-level do they go? If a 5,000' deep cave starts 7,000' above sea-level it isn't quite as interesting (to me).
- bobbarkerbilly, on 05/19/2008, -0/+8pppffffft... the Mines of Moria go all the way down to Khazad-dûm.
/dork - a2fan, on 05/19/2008, -1/+9The Earth's crust is only about 25 miles deep. After that, you reach the mantle which is magma... then comes the iron core. So, to answer the poster's question: "Far less than 25 miles."
- ApokalypseNow, on 05/20/2008, -1/+9Love does not require the supernatural.
- alkajazz, on 05/20/2008, -1/+9Oh yes kenrayd lets list some of the loving things in nature!
Black holes, Supernovas, Gamma Ray Bursts, Radiation, Volcanoes, Disease, Famine, Floods, Tornadoes, Hurricanes, Earthquakes, Asteroids, Tsunamis, I'm feelin' the love. - Merendino, on 05/19/2008, -0/+8That was actually a very cool read.
- maelnum, on 05/19/2008, -0/+8Yeah, I thought about going spelunking into a deep cavern system with only a flashlight, a pickaxe and just my survival instincts and wits to rely on.
and a little bit of pee came out. - ApokalypseNow, on 05/23/2008, -0/+7I'm sorry, I should have been more specific - Objective, empirical evidence?
- ApokalypseNow, on 05/23/2008, -0/+7I specifically said to the empty air, "If there is a supernatural force listening, please provide me with some form of objective, empirical evidence for your existence." None was forthcoming.
Here's a study that shows that prayer has no effect.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4681771.stm - Squidwalk, on 05/27/2008, -0/+7Now now, it's only proper procedure to provide a simple refutation to people using the "mysterious ways" argument.
kenrayd, if men submit god to man-made conditions and he doesn't hold up, how can anyone tell if that god is an evil or impartial god? If men are to submit god to god-made conditions, it means those men surpass the limitations of being men, and should be considered gods themselves. This would clearly be an affront to your god though.
I'm a bit interested in your "rebel angels" though. Reminds me of Cartesian skepticism. If you believe in them, how do you get out of that one? - ApokalypseNow, on 05/23/2008, -1/+8Sorry, I should have been more specific - objective, empirical evidence?
- lydecker, on 05/27/2008, -0/+7Kenrayd believes there is a point in attempting them, but it would not provide objective empirical evidence you ask for.
In essence, kenrayd doesn't have the ability to reason God or religion with to objective empirical evidence. By praying, you don't learn anything either, because God still operates how God wants to.
Kenrayd, what is the theory of prayer? What predictions have we hypothesized about prayer? What observations do we record when testing prayer? What are the possible sources of error in the testing phase? What are the possible explanations for what we observed during prayer? - ApokalypseNow, on 05/27/2008, -0/+7"You're example of the praying amputee reveals that you're still placing your conditions above God's conditions blah blah blah"
Oh look, a "mysterious ways" argument. Or rather, a non-argument, since again, there's no objective, empirical evidence for this position. Followers of any mythology can make the same baseless assertion - yours isn't special. - inactive, on 05/19/2008, -2/+9your thinly veiled archaic belief system has nothing to do with this.
- StaticThunder, on 05/27/2008, -0/+7If God can not be held to any man made condition, then I can't test whether he is real or not, thats why I left this discussion. Kenrayd doesn't understand what knowledge is. Arguing with him is useless.
He'd just say "if you would just try believing, then you would believe." Its too bad that God expects me to have low standards for evidence then. - ApokalypseNow, on 05/27/2008, -0/+7"If God doesn't hold up to your man-made conditions, then you lose, that's all. You're trying to make yourself a competitor to God which at the heart, is what the rebel angels have attempted to do."
...and you still haven't provided any objective, empirical evidence for the existence of angels, rebel or otherwise. Same goes for your god. Once more, without evidence for the existence of such things, asserting their existence is irrational. - StaticThunder, on 05/23/2008, -0/+7Unbiased praying is an oxymoron. It only works if you already believe it will work. Sorry. What goes on in your head doesn't affect the external world, anything other is magical thinking.
- eir574, on 05/27/2008, -1/+8I've just been lurking here, but this caught my attention:
"Until you try prayer in combination with study of Seventh-day Adventist Biblical teaching, then you have no right to define reality."
Your church is the only one with the right to define reality? That's a new one. - ApokalypseNow, on 05/27/2008, -0/+7No, as I said, the methods you suggest for obtaining evidence cannot provide objective, empirical evidence, so there is no point in attempting.
I note that you have not attempted my suggested method of getting in touch with the invisible technicolor pachyderm in William Shatner's sock drawer - afraid to try? - inactive, on 05/19/2008, -1/+7It is pitch black; you are likely to be eaten by a Grue.
- ApokalypseNow, on 05/23/2008, -0/+6"Where's your head?"
If you pulled yours out of your ass you might see it. Evidence that these are "rebel angels"? - mattyd12466, on 05/19/2008, -2/+8obviously he hasn't met my ex wife
- inactive, on 05/19/2008, -1/+7Most caves dont really go straight down.
- Talphin, on 05/19/2008, -0/+6I love caves... I don't know what exactly it is about them, but every time I am in a cave, I have this strange feeling of "being home". Maybe it is just a primal emotion or something.
- StaticThunder, on 05/20/2008, -1/+7Don't forget mosquitoes, malaria, hemorrhagic fevers, cancer, the bubonic plague, gangrene, anthrax, herpes, smallpox, lightning, wildfires, leeches, tapeworms, athlete's foot, leprosy, Huntington's disease, and my favorite, Naegleria, the brain eating amoeba, that you get as punishment for going swimming in warm water.
Somebody sure loves us a lot, so much I wish they'd stop loving us so much.
kenrayd, you're like a puddle. You look at the hole you are in and say, "Wow, look how great this hole fits me, somebody must have put it there for me! Boy, they sure are swell!" - wjackson, on 05/19/2008, -0/+6*whoosh*
- StaticThunder, on 05/23/2008, -0/+6I don't need to deserve it kenrayd. I'm not carrying around any "original sin" in the first place and I don't acknowledge anyone fit to tell me what I deserve and don't deserve spiritually. If God has a problem with me, he should let me know, because I'm certainly not going to believe the outragous claims of the likes of you.
You don't know what an oxymoron is and you are bending over backwards to ignore what everyone is saying. An oxymoron is something that is contradictory by definition. Unconditional prayer. The condition is that we believe there is a God to hear us in the first place. How can you pray if you have no one to talk to?
It doesn't work for people without faith, and in fact doesn't work for people with. Period. How many devout amputees have prayed to have their limbs regrown successfully? Convincing yourself it does work through fervent mental artistry doesn't change that fact.
OOoooh, I really want to believe in God, so I'll believe really hard that theres a God and whoa, I have a religious experience so there must be a God. You're having a spiritual masturbatory experience in your head. Its NOT REAL. - ApokalypseNow, on 05/27/2008, -0/+6"But you are assuming that the supernatural is not factual because it doesn't fit into your man-made natural design."
No, I'm disregarding assertions of the existence of the supernatural because it lacks evidence. Big difference there.
"The supernatural is real"
EVIDENCE?!?
The invisible technicolor pachyderm living in William Shatner's sock drawer is real, but by rejecting the spiritual exercises I mentioned, you close the door to your potential for knowing him. What I have shared are the divine provisions, but they are meant to sift out the humans who are too proud to listen to his mighty trumpet and so far, you are a living demonstration of that.
All you have provided here is a just-so story - circular reasoning at its finest. - StaticThunder, on 05/23/2008, -1/+6Oh you of little intelligence at all.
- onionlayer, on 05/19/2008, -0/+5from wiki page: "explorers have mapped 118 miles (190 km) of passages and have pushed the depth of the cave to 1,604 feet (489 m), ranking Lechuguilla as the 5th longest cave in the world"
so it's the 5th longest not the 5th deepest - speleo, on 05/19/2008, -0/+5Your second assumption would be correct. The greatest depth is what is a factor here, and not the greatest length.
- yuanzhoulu, on 05/19/2008, -0/+5you won't be crushed to a singularity if you drill a hole (hypothetically, temperature and molten rock issues asied) to the middle of the earth. if the earth were solid and you drilled such a hole and sat at the center, you'd feel just as if you were in outer-space -- weightless.
if you don't understand why, read up on Newton's Shell Theorem. - crocheoni, on 05/19/2008, -0/+5http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0505/feature ...
cool nat geo walk through the deepest cave - ApokalypseNow, on 05/23/2008, -1/+6Evidence of this "spirit"?
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