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- dotlizard, on 03/16/2008, -12/+175Well somebody told me
You had a boyfriend
Who looked like a girlfriend
That I had in February of last year
dammit now i'm going to have that stupid song stuck in my head all day. - PATSCRU, on 03/16/2008, -13/+82This week in reactionary bigots who misrepresent their religion to include doctrines of hate: JimmySpaza!
- Adamande, on 03/16/2008, -9/+70During college I met a girl I became quite good friends with. After a few months she revealed to me she used to be a boy. I couldn't have guessed by looking at her but when she told me I didn't really find it disturbing or strange in any way. It didn't change who she was to me. I think it's utterly silly to criticize people for changing their gender. Just let a person be who they want to be. If you can't accept that everyone in the world don't share your own perception of gender and sexuality, you're a compulsive control freak and should seriously consider seeing a psychologist.
- vroom101, on 03/16/2008, -1/+55Article on one page: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/16/magazine/16stude ...
- CkMaverick, on 03/16/2008, -15/+65Quagmire: "Hey there little lady. Why don't you turn around and show me your Lower East Side."
Woman (man voice) : "Sure."
Quagmire: "Whoa, transvestite, back off! Wait a minute...pre-op or post-op?"
Woman: "Pre-op."
Quagmire: "Whoa, transvestite, back off!" - inactive, on 03/16/2008, -9/+54very interesting debate issue.
Personally, I'm not sure I agree with the concept of same-sex colleges in the first place. While I certainly understand the desire to avoid an ostensibly, historically patriarchal establishment of higher academia, I think it does more harm than good in the long run by enforcing the belief that femininity is "weak" and much be protected from "maleness", and is inherently hypocritical to a certain extent. So in that regard I applaud these trans men for exposing such hypocrisy and dismantling out-dated binary gender/sex categorizations.
That being said, I have seen firsthand the subvert (not overt) sexist discrimination in the higher academic environment, and so I recognize that these institutions may definitely still have a utility. If that is the case, I fully understand the desire of such women who choose to go to an all-female school to remain in a male-free environment, as that was their understanding. But, then at the same time; perhaps it the shared firsthand experience of being perceived as female that is truly more important; and as a case-in-point, how many trans women have been accepted to all-female institutions? - DiggLive, on 03/16/2008, -4/+43It's not confidential, I've got potential.
- deviouskoopa, on 03/16/2008, -13/+47In case you didn't know
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: : : : : : :¯’’~~~~~~’’’ : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : | : : : : : : : : : - phazon88, on 03/16/2008, -39/+73Here's a video of Rick Astley singing Never Gonna Give You Up - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU
- Narpas, on 03/16/2008, -12/+45That was so godamned funny the first time somebody posted it like three weeks ago.
- inactive, on 03/16/2008, -0/+32what are the odds of that?
- isunktheship, on 03/16/2008, -6/+35interesting story, I stuck around for the first page, and then my fingers told me that I shouldn't have to "turn pages" since this isn't a ***** magazine.
- bjornski, on 03/16/2008, -3/+32You would be a blast to get drunk with at a party.
- civilizedevil, on 03/16/2008, -5/+33If you were a girl you'd be ugly as hell and broke.
- usingpond, on 03/16/2008, -7/+34Lesbians at a women's college? Well I never!!!
- inactive, on 03/16/2008, -3/+30There are feminists that denounce trans-identities and there are feminists that embrace them (this is addressed in the article)
To say that this is somehow the "fault of feminism" is a massive, massive generalization. - AzureRise, on 03/16/2008, -2/+2714,000 songs x 15 articles on main page = 210,000
Probability is 1/210,000. Of course it's even less than that when factoring in the time at which you looked at digg, chances you'd be doing other activities, whether you usually read the comments or not, the chances you would listen to music at that moment based on if you usually listen to music at this hour, your mood, device and accessibility...... - chlsmith, on 03/16/2008, -0/+25For the chicks. Duh.
- Flappy3, on 03/16/2008, -4/+27Rick Rolling - You're doing it wrong.
- ChromaVita, on 03/16/2008, -5/+28Dugg.
- BTConan, on 03/16/2008, -7/+30He's pretty much a recurring guest star.
- bjornski, on 03/16/2008, -4/+25Three weeks ago? Are you new to the Digg and the internet?
- EyeSurgery, on 03/16/2008, -7/+28That's addressed in the article.
- MiserJ, on 03/16/2008, -2/+22So if you found out your biological girlfriend was infertile would you kick her to the curb?
- KataLieb, on 03/16/2008, -3/+23I am married to a transgendered person, thou a preop, but hes still more a man than a woman. I didnt know this when we started dating, and when he told me, I thought about it for a while, and said, "What the hell! It doesnt change the fact that I love you as a person, your sex is inconsequential really." I will support him if he wants to go thru the hormone therapy some day.
He too has been that way from a very early age: When he still used womens clothing, he didnt look at all like a woman, or like being comfortable with the identity. - thelastcivilian, on 03/16/2008, -28/+47Pardon my ignorance, but if you don't really feel like a woman, why would you choose to enroll at a women’s college? Wouldn't the pressure to fit into a certain "gender" only be magnified in a sex-segregated school?
- inactive, on 03/16/2008, -0/+18What about the alternative of enrolling in a school without gender restrictions?
- StaticThunder, on 03/16/2008, -4/+21Wow. What a great troll. I almost felt compelled to write a well thought out philosophical response, and then realized I was dealing with an intellectual juvenile who does what he is told because it was written in a book his parents indoctrinated him into, not because he was capable of critical analysis.
You are mistaken. There is no truth to be rejected. - StaticThunder, on 03/16/2008, -7/+23No CrackIsWack, he's delivering the truth unto us. We only digg him down because we are lost little sheep that haven't yet come back to the fold. He will continue, stoically, trying to save us, even as we reject him out of ignorance.
GET BENT, JIMMYSPAZA! - robphillips, on 03/16/2008, -6/+22What are the odds I'd be listening to that exact song, when opening this article.. and then seeing your post? Seriously, come on, we need a figure of how many possible songs I could be listening to. If we go with my library, it's around 14,000 songs. However, universally that number would be much higher.
- NeoCortex, on 03/16/2008, -5/+21I love how it's un-PC to have a men's only college nowadays, but nobody bats an eye at a women's school. I think equality should work both ways.
- sleeknerve, on 03/16/2008, -4/+18It was submitted by Mr. BabyMan, you might as well book your funeral now
- CrackIsWack, on 03/16/2008, -9/+22ANOTHER JimmySpaza comment? If all of your comments are consistently dugg down into oblivion and people systematically disprove you, at what point do you finally come to the realization that you're a complete idiot?
- ed3r, on 03/16/2008, -3/+16The article does not want to be bound to definitions of 'Magazine' or 'Website article', to it, definitions are fluid.
- Adamande, on 03/16/2008, -2/+14I believe so. I'm old enough to focus on other things than pure appearance in a partner, and my bro has been a legal adult for over 10 years. He is his own person and frankly I don't care if his girlfriend has two horns and a tail as long as he's happy with her.
- inactive, on 03/16/2008, -2/+14spam
dang, I got excited at first that somebody might have something genuinely insightful and interesting to say in response to a comment of mine in particular. Then I realize that it was nothing but spam.... *sigh* buried, reported, and blocked. - inactive, on 03/16/2008, -5/+17transgender != homosexual
- SarahC, on 03/16/2008, -4/+16*claps*
You're my hero. - AngelBunny, on 03/16/2008, -5/+16Amazing that ftm are actually in the news. 99% of the news seems to only want to talk about mtf like transitioning only happens one way. I'm glad that the news is now showing ftm. It will stop a lot of ignorant people and actually get them to think, hopefully.
- jhall49, on 03/16/2008, -4/+15I think it's awesome how the Digg community steps up to bury ignorant, discriminating *****. Whether the story's about gays, transgendered people, black people, whoever, you guys are always here to back up whoever is at bat.
I think that's awesome and really exhibits the character of Digg's users.
Dugg. - TastyLamp, on 03/16/2008, -2/+12A rushing and rushing around.
- inactive, on 03/16/2008, -3/+13alrighty then, if you want to get into a debate about it, rather than just slinging empty potshots (hey, you started it...):
Gender is a societal perception and a personal identity. Sex is a biological fact (usually defined either by chromosomes or shape of the genitalia; although either of these definitions also have exceptions that break the rule). Look it up in Webster, or the, even better, the New Oxford.
When you meet somebody, you don't check underneath their pants or pull a chromosomal blood test to determine whether to refer to them using masculine or feminine pronouns; most people will make the distinction based on visual and auditory clues of appearance, mannerism, voice, and body language within a few split seconds of interaction. This is gender. You may be the type of person who will (upon discovery of an individuals transgender status) "un-gender" them and begin to use the opposite pronouns, or perhaps "it" to refer to them. Clearly something has changed, but as you admit yourself "you can't change your sex"; you have merely changed your perception of their gender. The belief that somehow the ability or acceptability to wear a skirt or put on makeup (necessarily nothing more than a byproduct of civilization; with no biological or genetic basis) is inherently tied to a chromosome, or a dangly bit of flesh is ludicrous. Gender (for transgendered *and* cisgendered individuals) is a presentation, a perception, an act; nothing more. - Adamande, on 03/16/2008, -0/+10And that's fine, mate. In my opinion you should be free to choose your own path, decide who you want to be and who you want to be with. But I hope you will agree it's fair to also grant that freedom to others and not be judgmental or put them down cause they choose another path than you.
- starfisch, on 03/16/2008, -4/+14Oh man, you showed them.
- fedak, on 03/16/2008, -3/+13If you were a female planning on a sex change, why the heck would you decide to go to an all-female school?
- octophobic, on 03/16/2008, -0/+10Buried for using "it" to describe another human being. I doubt transgender people want to be treated as "special" because from what I gather they want to be treated as Joe or Jane human.
- springhell, on 03/16/2008, -11/+20I love my college. All of our women programs are titled for "Women and Transgendered People." The trans story is such a heart-breaking one, and still, so many people are so prejudiced against it (even at my college!). I'm glad this article was made, and I hope more steps can be made toward understanding.
- lisaawesome, on 03/16/2008, -2/+11I have to agree with you on the uncertainty of the same-sex educational concept. As a woman who has always been in a co-ed classroom from kindergarten through college, I feel it is generally unnecessary to separate the sexes. I have never felt discriminated against or at any disadvantage because of the presence of boys/men in my classes. To me removing men from the environment creates an artificial bubble putting women at a disadvantage when they go onto "the real world." If we are not comfortable learning and competing with men and do not understand how women are perceived versus men I believe we will never achieve more than being doormat housewives.
I've only known one person who went to a same-sex college and she said many of her classmates had experiences some kind of abuse from men in their past and were using the school as a way to escape from their resulting anxieties about men. These are the kind of reasons for attending same-sex schools that bother me. The isolation will inevitably end leaving these girls with what? The inability to cope with their abuse, the lack of opposite sex communication skills? You mentioned seeing subvert sexism in the university system but does removing yourself entirely from the situation rather than working to correct it teach us anything? It happens in the workplace too, so the skills to identify/handle/report the situation is vital. I just really don't see any advantage to these schools. They appear to be escape mechanisms. - LacY, on 03/16/2008, -0/+9Well who determines who he "is?" If in his mind, he's a male, then why does anyone care that he chooses to live as a male?
- inactive, on 03/16/2008, -3/+12Admiral Ackbar!
i wouldn't have expected to see *you* in this thread.... -
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