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- airwalkery2k, on 06/09/2009, -2/+96This isn't the best high schools... it's "the number of Advanced Placement, Intl. Baccalaureate and/or Cambridge tests taken by all students at a school in 2008 divided by the number of graduating seniors."
What a horrible way to rank things--it only looks at one dimension. That's like saying a meal is the best food ever based on how many calories it has divided by the price. - XenoSNK, on 06/09/2009, -0/+76Does anyone else just see a big empty space where the list should be?
- harrisbradley, on 06/09/2009, -14/+50San Dimas High School football rules!!
- AJShoes9789, on 06/09/2009, -0/+29No child left behind makes them all tied.
- FacePuncher, on 06/09/2009, -1/+29It's from Bill and Ted's excellent adventure. Thats where the ataris got it from.
- SmpleJohn, on 06/09/2009, -0/+24Don't worry guys. The ads are still up.
- dareme, on 06/09/2009, -2/+25<insert my school is missing >
- Hetman, on 06/09/2009, -0/+22They also probably all drank milk at one time.
- NathanielJ, on 06/09/2009, -0/+22Population of Baltimore: ~650,000
Population of United States: ~300 million
So if schools were randomly distributed throughout the United States based on their need by population, you would expect Baltimore to have one school in the top 500 or so. Saying that you don't have one in the top 100 isn't even close to indicative of poor education in Baltimore. - busterbros, on 06/09/2009, -1/+21It represents the top 6% of public schools in the country. 1300 isn't as big of a number as it sounds.
- emkaysmith, on 06/09/2009, -3/+21Better than ranking schools by how often their football team wins championships. I hear that a lot from parents. The kind of parents whose kids are most likely to end up in the food service industry.
- ControlcChris, on 06/09/2009, -0/+16its 1500 silly....
- dreicher, on 06/09/2009, -0/+14Thank god Forbes didn't do this!
- Blinker1315, on 06/09/2009, -9/+21What a surprise, not one of the top 100 is in Baltimore, where we live. One of the reasons we saved from early on to send our kids to private school.
- DeusGear, on 06/09/2009, -3/+14List is dead. Great
- briLo, on 06/09/2009, -1/+12To bad the web server admin did not graduate from one of those 1,300 high schools!!!! You're failing suckka!
- Bloodwine, on 06/09/2009, -0/+9The list itself takes a very long time to load. Go to the page, and then walk away and grab some coffee or take a smoke break. It should be loaded by then.
- ddawggin, on 06/09/2009, -0/+9I dont know... if we do calories/price that would put Taco Bell up towards the top. Accident or a sign?
- freeridstylee, on 06/09/2009, -1/+10Detroit Public Schools didn't make the list!?
- lepetitmousse, on 06/09/2009, -1/+10i agreed with you until you dissed the food service industry.
- UselessTrivia, on 06/09/2009, -0/+9I think a jar of crisco would win.
- serif69, on 06/09/2009, -1/+9So from what I can tell, the best public schools are those that have selective enrollment for the most gifted students. Shocker.
- kazacoff, on 06/09/2009, -0/+8I'm assuming these are man boobs your talking about.. maybe a little activity or exercise would have been good for you.
- CaptHuggyFace, on 06/09/2009, -0/+8So, the Dallas Science/Engineering Magnet and Raleigh Charter schools don't count? Not to mention all the others I saw just on the top 100...
- ippey, on 06/09/2009, -2/+9Everybody knows that O'doyle rules.
- ghatid, on 06/09/2009, -1/+8No because people in the non-fly over states are just as ignorant as everyone else. In California, we are completely closed minded and closed to the fact that there are actually educated people in the Midwest. Sorry!
- aladrin, on 06/09/2009, -1/+8Not every city can be in the top 100. Heck, the whole list is only the top 6%... If you got even one in there, you should be happy.
- gl77, on 06/09/2009, -0/+7the hamster running on the wheel that powers newsweek's server is getting mighty damn tired.
- CaptHuggyFace, on 06/09/2009, -0/+7705! Woot! Wait...after ditching all the pep rallies, not going to a single sporting event, and graduating early to escape, NOW I found school spirit? Nevermind.
- ZigVicious, on 06/09/2009, -0/+6Psh. This is just a measure of each school's AP-ness.
- felman87, on 06/09/2009, -1/+7And I bet those bastards actually breathed oxygen at one point.
- TheUngod, on 06/09/2009, -1/+7They tend to be more educated, not intelligent.
- ippey, on 06/09/2009, -0/+6Rockledge, FL made the list? That school was a ***** hole. The only reason it must have made the list is because the number of graduating seniors was reduced do to being stabbed or shot.
- sweetpea0624, on 06/09/2009, -0/+5I attend a magnet school and my school is in the top 20
- rjc309, on 06/09/2009, -1/+6good job newsweek! your servers are really doin' it!
- asgardshill, on 06/09/2009, -3/+8Buried because of no viewable list at the link.
- inactive, on 06/09/2009, -0/+5The school of how to make up ***** stories on the internet. He's failing his classes.
- emkaysmith, on 06/09/2009, -0/+4Well, they didn't have all this AP stuff when I graduated high school -- which was in 1962. I went to a very good public high school in a sort of moneyed enclave (we weren't wealthy but were right on the district borderline), which regularly ranked as one of the "best" in the state. With the taxes residents of that district could afford to pay, we had excellent teachers, first-rate equipment, and small classes.
We had summer school that offered almost any class you wanted to take -- not just make-ups for classes you failed -- so I ended up with about five years' worth of classes when I graduated. Gave me the chance to dabble in all sorts of things, like journalism, that I wouldn't have had room for in my schedule otherwise.
That kind of broad exposure materially contributed to high scores on standardized tests. We regularly had one of the highest average SAT/ACT scores in the state. In my graduating class of 330-odd, only one or two didn't go to college. And 90%+ of those who went, graduated. This was in the South, but a couple dozen people from my class went places like Harvard, Princeton, and Stanford -- a number of them on academic scholarships.
All of those kinds of things are measurable and would lead, I should think, to a school ranking high compared to other schools. How many people do you actually graduate, and how well do they do afterward? (I.e., how well did you school prepare them?) How high-ranked were the colleges they went to, and how many actually graduated from those schools?
I don't have a problem with standardized tests, either, even though No Child Left Behind is complete crap.
Alas, public schools aren't what they used to be. Louisiana just discovered this week that the percentage of high school dropouts statewide isn't 34%, like they thought. It's actually 46%. - ummmmmmmmmm, on 06/09/2009, -0/+4suncoast is a public magnet school, it's #7.
- ManUnitdFan, on 06/09/2009, -1/+5I 100% agree. This list basically says the best schools are the ones that force most of their kids to take AP tests, regardless of how well prepared they are. If you had an inner-city school that - by all other measures - was failing, and had every student take 2 AP tests, that school would shoot to the head of Newsweek's list. It's an absurd way to rank schools.
- nickv, on 06/09/2009, -1/+5Actually, the list excludes the magnet and charter schools that have admission requirements (test, application.) That's why schools like Stuyvesant and Thomas Jefferson are not on the list (which I think makes the list pretty flawed personally.)
- ddawggin, on 06/09/2009, -0/+4School right next to my old high school used to be Top 20 (Clarke County, Virginia) and it's full of some of the most ignorant rednecks I've ever met. It beat my school (John Handley) by a solid 200 spots... but I blame that on our large proportion of Emo kids.
- inactive, on 06/09/2009, -0/+42600 pages, yikes!
- nemomarlin, on 06/09/2009, -0/+4who dugg me? Why did you do that?? I am really asking the question, what's a better way to rank school? I am all ears!
- Nelagster, on 06/09/2009, -2/+6heck yea Dallas takes the first 2!! not to mention multiple others in the top 100
- ghatid, on 06/09/2009, -0/+4I think AP exams are *****. My school offered them, and I definitely benefited from them, but they don't work. You can't compare a high school class with that of a good college/university. For example, most of my friends did the Calculus AB/BC exam and we all got 5/5 (max points) pretty easily...When we got to College, we all decided to retake the Calculus course for an easy A.
Boy were we mistaken. That class was probably one of the hardest courses we had to take. Even though the exam made it so we were able to get out of taking the class, it didn't even prepare enough to do reasonably well. They really need to just get rid of it. I'm all for honors courses; we shouldn't ignore the smart kids, but AP classes are useless. - dmoney51, on 06/09/2009, -1/+5So many things to reply to here.
Useless:
You can just take an AP test even if your school doesn't offer the class. I took the AP Government and AP Physics 2 tests even though my school didn't have the class, and that was mainly because my school wanted to rank higher on this scale. That's why we had kids that could barely speak English in our AP English Lit and Language class.
ghatid:
That class was hard because Calc 1 and 2 are designed to be the major weeder courses for all engineering programs and you probably slacked off because of the "hey, I already know this stuff" syndrome. If you went straight to Calc 3, that would probably have been the easy A. But if you compare the AP Physics test to college physics at least in my case, AP test 4/5, so I didn't get credit, then the college class was incredibly easy and I finished up with an A. - doctadjones, on 06/09/2009, -0/+4"Look at me! Grade me! Evaluate and rank me! I'm good, good, good and oh so smart! Grade meeeeee!!"
-Lisa Simpson - serif69, on 06/09/2009, -0/+4"2 Science/Engineering Magnet Dallas Texas"
- Hoogs, on 06/09/2009, -0/+4Wait, your school had unisex locker rooms? Which school was this again?
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