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79 Comments
- ChromaVita, on 10/19/2007, -1/+79You made me think someone shot down a MiG with a sword...
- Ducksa, on 10/26/2007, -0/+46Not enough swords in this video.
- SilentJay74, on 10/18/2007, -4/+31The vid had the original radio broadcasts but I hate to let you guys down, the rest was staged. This is not actual footage. Some may have been real but you just do not mount cameras in a cockpit or on the underside of the plane. Most military footage is from targeting systems or spy cameras. The beginning of the vid showed two F-14s how could they have been filmed unless there was a third plane?
- mitzishorrr, on 10/23/2007, -0/+25Sorry wrote Swordfighters but meant Swordsmen. The VF-32 Swordsmen were the US Navy F-14 Fighter squadron stationed at NAS Oceana. The squadron transitioned to the F/A-18F Super Hornet in 2005 after the F-14 tomcat was retired. Sorry, I think i wanted to say too much with one word :)
- Rahodeb, on 10/19/2007, -0/+23Yeah, I'm a lot less impressed now.
- sparkey182, on 10/20/2007, -1/+24Wait so its just a cool write up and a video? There isn't some political agenda to vote for Ron Paul or something? Awesome! I can digg again!
- MalcolmG, on 10/18/2007, -1/+21link to video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAHHXAIazqQ&eurl=ht ... - zephc, on 10/18/2007, -0/+18"SWORD FIGHT!"
/Tarantino - inactive, on 10/19/2007, -1/+17The MiGs had plenty of time to disengage and turn around. They wanted a fight, they got it.
- crashflow, on 10/18/2007, -1/+17Somehow, I ended up thinking of some really bad-ass matadors. "Ha, we do not fight bulls... that is child's play."
- ShooterMcGavin, on 10/23/2007, -0/+14You do realize that is exactly what the History or Discovery channels do all the time right? They use re-enactments, spliced video, audio, and whatnot to tell a compelling story.
This is no different. - Nantel, on 10/18/2007, -3/+17Web page is dead but I initially thought that this story was related to the computer game Civilization where Pikemen can theoretically destroy Abrams tanks.
- Bggnz, on 10/18/2007, -0/+12That was pretty intense and it was only 2 vs 2. I cant even imagine the chaos that would go down if it were larger numbers.
cool vid. "I DONT HAVE TONE!" - SilentJay74, on 10/18/2007, -0/+9This is real stuff: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2IOyddVRSs
- mitzishorrr, on 10/18/2007, -0/+8First of all the beginning of the vid shows two MiG-23s. The radio broadcasts are the real thing. As for the "you just do not mount cameras in a cockpit or on the underside of the plane" part... In 1989 Tomcat squadrons started a 15 year old tradition. They made movies with all the F-14 Tomcat squadrons. These flick were named Fighter Fling and the series ended in 2004. If you don't believe me check it out http://www.military-heat.com/17/f14-tomcat-fighter ...
- PRlME, on 10/18/2007, -1/+8and you are diggs filter?
- sdcarter, on 10/18/2007, -1/+6GOOSE!!!
- fourcylthrill, on 10/17/2007, -0/+5Rest of page:
Gulf of Sidra incident, 1989
On January 4, 1989, two US F-14 Tomcats downed two Libyan MiG-23 Flogger Es in an engagement that has come to be known as the Gulf of Sidra incident. This was the second Gulf of Sidra incident following the downing of two Libyan Sukhoi Su-22 Fitters in August 19, 1981.
In 1973 Libyan leader Muammar al-Gaddafi claimed the Gulf of Sidra as territorial waters. Gaddafi named it The Line of Death, crossing this line would invite a military response. The USS John F. Kennedy was deployed near the Libyan coast. Late in the morning on January 4, 1989, Combat Air Patrol station was taken by two F-14A Tomcats belonging to the VF-32 Swordsmen squadron.Due to the presence of the Kennedy battle group near the Libyan coast, pilots were advised to expect some hostilities.
CDR Joseph Bernard Connelly and CDR Leo F. Enright were in F-14 AC207 (AC was the tail code for VF-32 Swordsmen) and LT Hermon C. Cook III and CDR Steven Patrick Collins were in AC204. At 11:50 the two aircraft were informed by a Grumman E-2 Hawkeye Airborne Early Warning (AEW) aircraft that four Libyan MiG-23 Floggers had taken off from Al Bumbaw airfield near Tobruk. The Tomcats turned for an intercept, the first two MiGs were 50 km ahead of the rear pair. The common procedure at the time was to acquire and lock the enemy aircraft with the Tomcats powerful AWG-9 radar, a maneuver that generally ended with the enemy aircraft reversing their course and avoiding an engagement. The Tomcats locked the Floggers from 72 nautical miles away. The Tomcats then turned away from the head-on approach, thus indicating to the Floggers they do not wish to engage in combat.
The two Libyan MiGs changed their course and gained speed. They accelerated to 870 KTS (1,600 km/h) and were on an intercepting course, heading towards the two Tomcats. The Tomcats descended to 3,000 feet with their radars still tracking the Floggers. Due to the low altitude of the Tomcats, the Flogger pilots had no clear radar image of the Tomcats. This diving and climbing maneuver was executed four times, hoping the Floggers will be intimated and reverse heading.
“Warning Yellow weapons hold” was heard over the radio at 11:59 meaning the Tomcats were authorized to fire if threatened. The order to arm the Sidewinder and Sparrow missiles was given by the lead Tomcat’s RIO (Radar Intercept Officer). You can clearly hear him say “Master arm on, Master arm on” followed by “Bogeys have jinked back at me again”. At a range of 14 miles AC207’s RIO launches an AIM-7M Sparrow, surprising his pilot. “Fox 1 Fox 1″ was heard over the radio. The missile failed to track so a second missile was launched “Fox 1 again”.
The Tomcats split. As the lead tomcat was circling to get a tail angle, the wingman engaged a Flogger with a Sparrow. The words “Good kill! Good kill!” and “Pilot ejected” can be heard over the radio. The last Flogger is shot down by the lead Tomcat using a Sidewinder missile. Both pilots were seen safely ejecting their planes. They were however lost at sea. The Tomcats set course for home, after one pilot broadcasts over the radio “Let’s get out of here.” - theskyman, on 10/18/2007, -1/+6Exactly!
- noahhoward, on 10/19/2007, -1/+6A hostile Mig-23 is a hostile Mig-23 third world country or not.
- sparkey182, on 10/18/2007, -1/+6wow, look at 2 comments above me.... political agenda, that was not even there when i posted mine! How Crazy!
- jennamalia, on 10/18/2007, -0/+4There were TWO Gulf of Sidra incidents:
Incident 1:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Sidra
Incident 2:
Aftermath
No one is sure to why the two MiGs operated in this manner and provoked an engagement, and the Libyans did not launch a successful rescue operation to recover the pilots. The following day, the Libyans accused the US of attacking two unarmed reconnaissance planes, but the footage, also called the gun-camera videos, showed that the Libyans had been armed with AA-7 Apex missiles. Depending on the model, this can be either a semi-active radar-homing missile or an infrared-homing (heat-seeking) missile.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Sidra_inciden ... - widman, on 10/18/2007, -0/+4America! ***** yeah!
- glasnostic, on 10/18/2007, -3/+7anybody else have the top-gun theme in their head as they watched that?
- TheLoneHoot, on 10/18/2007, -1/+4of all the cockpit video footage out there, you chose to submit something from 1989?!
- noahhoward, on 10/21/2007, -1/+4What? All the other ***** people post and you pick on one of the first interesting things to come through? It may not be news but neither is 9% of all the other ***** here.
- Gigabutt, on 10/18/2007, -0/+3build up = awesome
- LaueOfficer, on 10/18/2007, -0/+3Why are YOU on Digg?
- 2gig, on 10/22/2007, -0/+3So, not to over-debate something that happened more than 20 years ago, and I'm a patriot and a flag waver and al that, but just reading the text.. the Libyans are locked onto, but do not lock onto the US planes.. the US planes are instructed they can fire if fired upon, but then fire anyway.. "surpising the pilot" who was in command.. and this all happens in international waters?
So.. yay USA or something? Go.. 20 years ago US Navy!!! woo?! - hawk0168, on 10/18/2007, -0/+3So you're saying that with inferior radar and missiles, a russian pilot could shoot down an F-14? I don't think so. The F-14 could engage from 115 miles away. Take a seat. They'd be shot down before they even knew who was attacking them.
- sdcarter, on 10/18/2007, -1/+3I feel the need... the need for speed.
- vidar808, on 10/18/2007, -0/+2Don't visit site. It is trying to install some sort of malware.
- HanSolo69, on 10/17/2007, -0/+2were they using swords or guns? get it straight.
- TokenWhiteGuy, on 10/18/2007, -1/+3Again, ***** off.
- mwalker05, on 10/18/2007, -0/+2the squadron the fighters were in was the swordsmen.
- mrlost117, on 10/18/2007, -1/+3it was easily the coolest thing Ive seen on Digg.
- SilentJay74, on 10/18/2007, -0/+2I did state in my comment that some of it may have been real but not the entire thing. I am aware that History channel and National Geographic splice actual footage with re-enactments. I do think it was a good story I just stated that some of the footage was not real.
- IHaveIssues, on 10/19/2007, -0/+1Not since I found out that movie is about gayness.
- mtrip, on 10/19/2007, -1/+2Negative Ghost Rider.
- noahhoward, on 10/18/2007, -0/+1There is one basic human right: The right to do as you please.
With that right is the one basic human responsibility: Accept the consequences. - one2k, on 10/18/2007, -0/+1You should read it again then. Who said anything about a Sukhoi being a Mig? There were two incidents. "This was the SECOND Gulf of Sidra incident following the downing of two Libyan Sukhoi Su-22 Fitters in August 19, 1981". Proof:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Sidra_inciden ... The first Gulf of Sidra incident, August 19, 1981, was an incident in which two Libyan Sukhoi Su-22 Fitter fighter jets engaged and were shot down by two US F-14 Tomcats off of the Libyan coast.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Sidra_inciden ... The second Gulf of Sidra incident, January 4, 1989, occurred when two US F-14 Tomcats shot down two Libyan MiG-23 Flogger Es that appeared to be attempting to engage them, as had happened previously in the first Gulf of Sidra incident (1981). - S1ngular1ty1, on 10/18/2007, -1/+2International waters man. Anyone can do as they wish in them.
- inactive, on 10/17/2007, -0/+1I'm clicking over as I speak. HOLY JESUS! Look at that ***** movie! I am now entering my credit card information....
- fascistpig, on 10/18/2007, -0/+1Didn't they show this in Top Gun? Maverick saved Ice-Man's ass! Remember? Remember!
- boobsbr, on 10/18/2007, -0/+1F-14s were the sexiest jet fighters ever, followed by the F-15s.
- noahhoward, on 10/18/2007, -0/+1The F35 is intended to replace the F-16, AV-8B Harrier, and F/A-18, there is not a comparable replacement for the F-14.
The F-18 has no where close to the performance characteristics of the F-14 and cannot carry the Phoenix Missile.
The F-35 only surpasses the F-14 in combat radius. - TokenWhiteGuy, on 10/18/2007, -2/+3The MiGs had plenty of time to disengage and turn around. They wanted a fight, they got it.
by Reedan. - inactive, on 10/22/2007, -0/+1"The Tomcats locked the Floggers from 72 nautical miles away. The Tomcats then turned away from the head-on approach, thus indicating to the Floggers they do not wish to engage in combat."
I wonder if turning away from a head on approach is a universal communication for pilots. Then again if I got locked onto by an Aircraft with far superior weapon systems from 72 miles away, common sense would follow... besides, the max range of a sparrow missile is about 44 miles (10 -18 for sidewinders, pending altitude) - IareKEVLAR, on 10/18/2007, -1/+2Buried as inaccurate.
- Tetraca, on 10/17/2007, -0/+1I thought there was some nut with a katana and gun shooting two Libyans who have a thing for flogging MiG-23s....
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