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- barbobot, on 10/12/2007, -3/+73The Creationists in this video _only_ (TRY to) refute evolutionism. They never "prove" creationism.
That's because creationism can't be proven, it's not science. - zookee, on 10/12/2007, -10/+42Great episode.
- david76, on 10/12/2007, -5/+32Great episode. To follow up, the Cobb County stickers were ruled unconstitutional in 2005.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/cobb/selman-v-cobb.html
BTW, Kansas also reversed previously pro-Intelligent Design language in the science curriculum this year. - cwshea, on 10/12/2007, -5/+30The Creationists in this video _only_ (TRY to) refute evolutionism. They never "prove" creationism.
Eh. - Odweaver, on 10/12/2007, -4/+22We have people who don't accept evolution, and you have soccer fans.
- kibiz0r, on 10/12/2007, -6/+22Because science doesn't deal in absolutes, it deals in probabilities. That's why there is no such thing as scientific fact. If it was definite, it could never be disproven.
That's faith, NOT science. - barbobot, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17http://www.re-discovery.org/gravity_1.html
Gravity, Just a theory! - grevvvvvv, on 10/12/2007, -7/+19Good to hear.
- Waterispoison, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15Xian? Is that like the opposite of Scientology? Are you a follower of Xenu?
- Kingfisherx, on 10/12/2007, -5/+15Every time a creationist said in that video "it's theory, not fact" they illustrated their idiocy. Apparently not one of them understands the frickin definition of the term "theory."
From Websters:
Main Entry: the·o·ry
Pronunciation: 'thE-&-rE, 'thir-E
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -ries
Etymology: Late Latin theoria, from Greek theOria, from theOrein
1 : the analysis of a set of facts in their relation to one another
2 : abstract thought : SPECULATION
3 : the general or abstract principles of a body of fact, a science, or an art
That's right theory means the correlative concept of a group of facts. They don't even know how to use the English language, and they want to force there BS content into the science curriculum of the school systems?!?! - Kingfisherx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10And I screwed up the "their" with "there" went ranting about use of the English language. Idiot points for me.
- lexington86, on 10/12/2007, -8/+17Science is not (and never has been) about "proving" something to be fact. Science is about finding and using overwhelming evidence to construct a scientific _theory_. If other scientists don't think a theory is correct, then they work to find other evidence to provide an overwhelming counter-example to said theory.
It's not about something being "right" or "wrong", its about what theory has the most _probability_ (and thus the most scientific evidence) of being correct. Evolution (and its compliment, Natural Selection) is one of these theories that has vast amounts of scientific evidence to support it, and thus has a very high probability of being correct. - Tenetri, on 10/12/2007, -7/+15Well, people, like the ones in this video, will never believe in evolution. Its a little known scientific fact that these people are ar-tards. Having any sort of religion taught as science in public schools, just blows my mind.
Only other thing I want to say is... Please stop saying "Its crazy to believe in evolution because it can't be proven, Look at the facts people!" I asked someone who said that before, and he told me it was a fact of the bible. Anyone mind explaining to me how the bible can be sited as factual information, and not a well written-brain washing book? - Niten, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12@rkettner: The Big Bang Theory makes several predictions about cosmological features such as redshift, expansion rate, and the distribution of background radiation. If, for example, we found a galaxy somewhere zooming *toward* us when we would expect it to be moving away, then that would seem to falsify at least our current version of the Big Bang Theory.
Big Bang Theory is based on observable evidence and makes predictions about observable evidence: it is a falsifiable theory of the highest caliber. Nothing of the sort can be said for "creationism". - Poco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8So this
"As an Xian, I'm getting a kick out of these replies."
Really means this?
"As an Christian, I'm getting a kick out of these replies."
In that case we can at least pick on him for his grammar. - zephc, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8The universe was created 28 years ago when I was born, and everything before that is an illusion and false memories put in place by the Yrth-amana, the true pantheon of creators of the universe.
- patrickloggins, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Holy *****!
I live in Cobb County.
The school they show, Lassiter, is MY SCHOOL. My Biology teacher from last year is in there.
The stickers WERE ruled unconstitutional in 2005, and I wasn't taught creationism last year, so I guess that was too.
I also think that the episode was a little biased against Marietta.. YES, there are TOO MANY religious fanatics here, but there's also a large group in support of evolution, and all of my science teachers think that the whole idea of teaching creationism is rediculous. It's good to know that people all aren't as crazy as it looks. - screamthenrun, on 10/12/2007, -7/+14personally i think this video is a little biased against judeo-christians in general... im a catholic and i strongly believe in evolution--
IN FACT MY CATHOLIC HIGH SCHOOL teaches evolution as a fact (by the way its the "theory of natural selection" not evolution...) evolution is a fact... natural selection is the theory that makes it work... scientists do debate over it, but not to the extent that those moron fundamentalists say... there are two "subtheories" that are debated over: 1. punctuated equilibrium 2. Gradualism... and both of these "subtheories are based in natural selection as the mechanism for evolution - Nick22, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7"Because science doesn't deal in absolutes, it deals in probabilities"
Also, if science did deal in absolutes, that would make them a Sith. - CharliesRevenge, on 10/12/2007, -7/+12The words "intelligent design" make me sick. To me it feels like they are stealing all the thoughts and good ideas of evolution and slapping the title of "God" over it.
"Hmmm... how can we get rid of this theory of evolution? It has science and evidence to back itself up and it's becoming a problem to us creationists."
"I know! We say God 'INVENTED' evolution! Problem solved!" - r2builder, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7"The problem is that a 6000 year old earth can NEVER be proven or debated."
What about carbon dating?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dating - DeskFlyer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Flying Spaghetti Monster unavailable for questioning.
- Dested, on 10/12/2007, -7/+11Its starting to get pretty hard to determine who's a troll and who's a fundamentalist Christian...
- Moocat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@jjesusfreak01
Just so you're aware, there are people who are resistant to the AIDS virus nowadays. On a study done in Russia, about 1% of the population was so resistant they may as well be immune. - Fordi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Heh. Not everyone here in the states thinks a magic man done it.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9in the ***** department a business man cant hold a candle to a clergyman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uBAPbOWLxc - Poco, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8Well, that is easy to understand since Penn and Teller are devout athiests (Well, Penn is, I don't know about Teller, he doesn't say much). They tend to go pretty hard on the church, and anyone with blind faith, whenever they can (with good reason).
BTW, I like your description of evolution and natural selection. - Gizza, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5God put all those fossils and stuff there just to trick us and test our faith. He's a tricky one that way.
- Gizza, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Yeah, only about 97% do.
http://www.adherents.com/largecom/com_atheist.html
According to that, USA has the lowest percentage of atheists/agnostics of any country. - Zreitan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3The issue of Evolution vs Creationism is really complex and very hard to fully understand. Just like it takes years of English class, years of math. It takes years of learning to come to an understanding of what evolution 'really' is and how it 'really' works.
- stigma15, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The unfortunate thing is it seems that Richard Dawkins and his ilk will never do anything but preach to the converted, as it were. When you come from a religious environment (i.e. family, culture, country), becoming an atheist/agnostic and/or accepting evolution is a slow process that often takes place over years. Religious people can't be swayed by merely placing evidence in front of them. Believe me, I've tried.
- noisician, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5don't worry, they're spreading
Rise of Creationism in UK Schools:
http://education.guardian.co.uk/schools/story/0,,1957858,00.html - cycledesign, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I can't help but think that this video was posted as a "response" to the last two (Wal-Mart and Gun Control).
- Crass22, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Theory: A comprehensive explanation of a given set of data that has been repeatedly confirmed by observation and experimentation and has gained general acceptance within the scientific community but has not yet been decisively proven.
When an observation is confirmed repeatedly and by many independent and competent observers, it can become a fact.
So Evolution Theory is a Fact. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I’m going to make this whole Evolution vs. Creation thing real simple; the Bible is nothing more than a thousand ass ignorant pages of ***** smeared nonsense.
There, that should about clear it up.
Seriously, anybody that believes in the Bible is a ***** retard. I can’t wait until mankind evolves out of this current stage where such a large percentage of the population believes in such ancient ridiculous *****.
Now all you Bible licking ***** can dig me down, go on, you know you have to, for “I AM SATAN!” or “SATAN IS SPEAKING THROUGH ME!” or whatever the ***** you think you primitive loser. - gurra, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I am so grateful that I live in Sweden.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"Lets compare and contrast evolution with intelligent design. Its a great way to teach kids to tell the difference between good science and non-science.
Good science changes, we learn more, it begins with observation and moves to hypothesis, testing and debate, while non science is rigid, it begins with works of fiction and proceeds to asserting, insisting, twisting the facts and sometimes even torchuring those who disagree.
You can learn something from that. Whether intelligent design makes sense to you or sounds just ***** crazy doesn't matter, it just not science" - offwithyourtv, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'm not sure why everyone is digging you down, mininger711. If I read correctly, you're saying that you, even as a Christian, are logical enough to see through the ***** of creationism. Everyone else missed the point of what you were saying, which is that creationists' argument of "God made it that way" clearly doesn't stand up to the plethora of scientific evidence we have in modern time. Even though you have a point about teaching evolution and creation side-by-side so that any rational being will see the obvious winner, I still must say I'd prefer only science to be taught in science class, especially since people can be taught about creation in church. Why would Christians want to hear the same lecture twice? I highly doubt any non-Christians (or intelligent Christians) need to have a side-by-side comparison to see how strong the evolution argument is when it is taught thoroughly and correctly.
- Fordi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4http://themodulator.org/archives/002739.html
- Waterispoison, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6Hmmm...I'm sorry, did I hit a nerve there? Let me say this, I have made plenty of intelligent remarks on digg. If you want you can go read them under my profile page. You will also find out that I like to make comedic remarks, like the one I made to you. Finally, I love to insult people who are obviously less-intelligent than me.
/egotistical - englishganxta, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6@p0und
America is the only country where they hold "Stop teaching Evolution" rallies...
I know many people that do not believe it.
And yes I am living in the US, but orignally from the UK. - Fordi, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5No scientific theory, to date, has gotten the kind of rigorous investigation as evolution. The reason for this is primarily due to the controversy surrounding it in the US (that's right! Europe doesn't deal with this *****!). As a result, we have gathered more evidence in the defense of evolution, more ideas and research surrounding the evolution of specific organisms, and more data concerning observed evolutionary mechanism, in a shorter time than any other field of scientific inquiry.
By the way, please stop touting 'micro-' and 'macro-' evolution as separate things. It makes you look stupid. So-called macro evolution is well-explained and investigated under the moniker of 'speciation', which is an intermediate point between natural selection and full-on evolution where a breeding colony forks off into two similar but genetically incompatible groups, well on their way to becoming distinc species. The reason for this is usually due to geographic isolation; the two groups can't breed with one another and undergo different environmental pressures. As their lines reproduce, their genes drift apart until they are no longer capable of recombining via normal reproductive method. - hmcook87, on 04/20/2008, -0/+1no no no, the earth was created 5 minutes ago by a holy turtle, who created the world with everyone's memories intact, artificial history planted and light rays from stars already in position to look like they have been traveling millions of years. the holy turtle did this because he moves in mysterious ways. now prove me wrong.
- pennvneff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Why am I not surprised these people are from the South. I feel like I'm watching the prequel to the movie Idiocracy. Our country is going down the ***** and it's because of dumb inbred retards like this. It makes me sick to my stomach.
- JesterFPS, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Funny mustache at 15:31.
- hmcook87, on 04/20/2008, -0/+1yes, intelligent design could be used in science classes to illustrate exactly what constitutes a scientific theory, and to show the importance of evidence and how science is vastly more reliable than faith based stabs in the dark.
- hmcook87, on 04/20/2008, -0/+1i think this is why so many creationist parents home school their kids, much easier to indoctrinate them when they're not exposed to those pesky outside influences. just because YOU don't want creationism pushed into schools does not mean that those who do are not creationists. I am pleased that you do not pretend your belief in creationism has any basis in science, and that is of course the appropriate position to take if you're going to believe in that kind of thing. but there ARE creationists out there who want everyone to pretend that creationism (dressed up as "intelligent design") has a valid scientific basis, and that is what we are arguing against.
- mb3581, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1there is nothing in the constitution about seperation of church and state. this is a myth. it does not exist in the consititution. never has. dont beleive me? look it up.
- Mutton, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1lopla, asking a question such as that only shows your ignorance of the Bible and Christianity. Do some research and I'm sure you'll understand why Christians don't follow the Jewish Law of the Old Testament.
- danjeeva, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's not about letting the student choose between creationism and evolution, it is about teaching creationism in science classes. Once you teach creationism in a science class it is no longer science. These ***** have to realize that the whole of the science community accepts Evolution and that it is key stone in many fields. Hey today they teach creationism in science classes and who knows maybe tomorrow they'll start teaching astrology and palmistry and flying unicorns, etc, etc... There is only one place for creationism in schools and that is in Religion class or Philosophy.
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