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- Alphabet, on 07/18/2009, -0/+43Here's the image without all the stupid flash *****. Seriously, who thought that it was a good idea to make your site have a cumbersome design entirely based on flash?
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/4711/image1uno. ... - benroy, on 07/18/2009, -3/+33I love overly complicated and cumbersome infographs that lack any information relevant to myself! Oh happy day!
- zacharycohen, on 07/17/2009, -2/+30it truly is the great equalizer, when education improves, lives get better, nations get wealthier and progress is made
- ripple123, on 07/18/2009, -3/+18ok repeat after me kids, "infographics are not education"
- unclesol, on 07/18/2009, -2/+17Your statistics are misleading. Studies have shown time and time again that women are attracted to professions that generally earn less in income than men. When you look at what women earn when the have the exact same degrees as men, they actually earn more than those men. You can't look at just "bachelor's degrees" because the variants are far too wide. But when you look at "masters degrees in finance" you get a much more clear picture. Women earn more than men when they have the exact same education. It just so happens that less women are attracted to higher earning occupations.
- skipgamer, on 07/18/2009, -0/+14buried for stupid flash design.
If I wanted to scroll I'd have a 12 inch monitor -_- - smacksaw, on 07/18/2009, -0/+11I'll be brutally honest with you jaybol. I think that zooming in crap is garbage. It's certainly an interesting article, but scrollbars and the magnifying glass that is part of any browser works fine.
I don't know if you get anything for submitting that, but if you have any contact with the designer, my feedback is that it's just too much of a pain in the ass. - inactive, on 07/18/2009, -3/+14As industrialization exploded at the close of the 1800s, the United States had quite a free-market society. The result were trusts of immense power which chewed up workers and spat them out, caused a constant boom-and-bust economy with one deep recession/depression after another, and hoarded wealth to a degree almost unimaginable.
Hardly close to ideal, but maybe close to hell. - cJw314, on 07/18/2009, -0/+11/agree
Could that be any more difficult to navigate? - robinthehood, on 07/18/2009, -0/+11It's not just education... I've been theorizing this for the past 3 years for a book I'm writing.
The main equalizers:
Education
Health Care
Shelter
Food
Think about it.
If you don't have shelter, your main concern is finding somewhere warm and dry to sleep at night.
If you don't have health care, you get sick and are unable to survive it.
If you don't have education, you cannot function at the level that the rest of society functions at.
If you don't have food, you are left wondering where/what you're going to eat each day.
Now think about it in terms of control. If you want to be in power who do you want control over?
1. Educated, well fed, healthy people with houses that are able to discern and take apart everything you do and say?
2. Uneducated, starving, unhealthy people that are looking for shelter and have neither the time or education to criticize your rule?
In America you have millions without healthcare, you have a blatantly 2-tier education system, you have people being evicted from their homes and you have fast food/supermarket food that is doing more bad than it is good.
Someone in America is playing the game really well, if you think of it in terms of a giant political theory experiment (which life is).
In short, inevitably the world is heading towards an educated, well fed healthy people with homes regardless of what those in power try to stop it. Future governments are going to look nothing like we have now. Our current power structures are created to rule over uneducated, starving unhealthy people without homes (ie. Feudal).
We are on the cusp of societal evolution, I just can't tell you when it comes. - ZenMojo, on 07/18/2009, -2/+11Why do you think there are so many attempts to give primary education over to the free market even though private school students perform worse on tests on average than public school students? Because when the wealthy and privileged control all of the country's knowledge and academic prowess, they can create a permanent underclass.
Education in this country sucks, but it could be a lot worse. - Manchildcartoon, on 07/18/2009, -0/+8I'm pretty sure it's death
Powerful or weak, loved or hated...no one escapes death. - j035u5, on 07/18/2009, -0/+8Don't forget the fact that its displayed in a hideous interface! why do I have to scroll around an image smaller than my screen because its in a tiny window.
- robinthehood, on 07/18/2009, -0/+8My problem is why does "equalizing" automatically mean money? It's a real dumbing down of what equalization really means.
Were I a woman and a feminist this graphic would insult me. Money has little to do with what makes me equal. - nepidae, on 07/18/2009, -0/+8holy ***** on a stick. taking fail infographics to a new low. not only is it an "info"graphic, but it runs multiple sequences of javascript to load a god damn image. something i remember seeing in like 1995 ...
- smacksaw, on 07/18/2009, -0/+7Thank you. That's all that I wanted. You sir are a saint.
- ZenMojo, on 07/18/2009, -0/+7Agreed. Still, it's not that we're not seeing more wealth concentrated in fewer hands or anything....oh, wait...
- paulwe, on 07/18/2009, -0/+7correlation is not causation... women are excluded from participation in society in these countries, it's not because they're stupid. keeping them uneducated just saves resources, educating them does no good if they're still treated as second class citizens by law.
- BasalCellBossk, on 07/18/2009, -2/+8Answer: you're a ***** racist.
- dumptaker, on 07/18/2009, -1/+6Unclesol is absolutely correct. Women in my industry (aerospace) are few and far between. The ones that I work with are always the top performers of the company, get faster promotions, and definitely earn more than the guys do.
I know a lot more women that go into social work and teaching than men. You can't take all the numbers from social work, teaching and aerospace, average them together and then starting complaining about disparity between men and women. It's disparity between JOBS.
Paranor01 is the bigoted troll. - jeffhughes, on 07/18/2009, -0/+5K how about some useful statistics, like the correlation between these numbers? It doesn't look to me like the gender parity index has much of an effect on any of the other stats. Democratic Republic of the Congo is at 0.81, and it has 8% of women in parliament. Benin is at 0.83, and also has 8%. In between, Pakistan is at 0.82, but has 21%. This just tells me that the graphic is useless.
It's pretty impossible to tell, though, whether these numbers have any real meaning, without some sort of correlative factor to work with. - inactive, on 07/18/2009, -0/+5I came here for an article on Edward Woodward, and I must say I'm sorely disappointed.
- robinthehood, on 07/18/2009, -0/+4seriously WTF? I just read this...
INACTIVE - you do realize that schools in America receive funding based on the property values in their neighbourhoods, which is to say that rich areas have schools that are far better funded than poor areas.
Then there's the whole issue of the fact that America has been designing a 2-tier school system in the hopes of completely privatizing it.
You want proof? Go to New Orleans. After the hurricane New Orleans got a lot older and a lot whiter. They've shut down almost all the public schools to create private schools that everyone gets "vouchers" for.
BasalCellBossk- this guy isn't just a racist he's ***** ignorant as *****. - elnerdo, on 07/18/2009, -1/+5I'd like to see something to back up this claim, "private school students perform worse on tests on average than public school students". I don't believe it.
- Paranor01, on 07/18/2009, -1/+5Teachers are overpaid? You must not be talking about public education teachers.
- Gravey9, on 07/18/2009, -0/+3What the hell is going on in that infographic?
- davethemac, on 07/18/2009, -1/+4Guys... while I whole heartedly agree with want you're saying, though I'll be pleasantly suprised if i live long enough to see it happen, is this not actually a car advert?
- NeoMark627, on 07/18/2009, -1/+4Unclesol is correct to some extent. http://thechoice.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/01/vale ...
There probably is some sexism but I don't believe it is as bad the graph would imply. - generalalcazar, on 07/19/2009, -0/+3Although the site looks very pretty, that infographic is terrible. 50% of the page is filled with giant illustrations that provide absolutely no meaning, while the data is forced into tiny sizes on the margins. They could have used all that space to provide more data and metrics. Useless!
- TekTrixter, on 07/18/2009, -2/+5"It could be worse" is never an excuse to accept the status quo.
- LBWayward, on 07/18/2009, -0/+3That sounds a bit conspiratorial. You think that the parents of private school kids aren't trying to buy their kids a better education, they're actually conspiring to create a permanent underclass?
- gt845i4u, on 07/18/2009, -0/+3nice flash and everything. zooming/panning take forever. Use the whole page please.
- raggles, on 07/18/2009, -0/+3Unfortunately, wealth does not always come of intelligence. Education is not 'The Great Equalizer' as far as making poor countries wealthy is concerned.
- Whatasillyhat, on 07/18/2009, -1/+3That's a stupid thing to say. There are plenty of facts on there I didn't know, it may not be in great detail, but statistics are still statistics. If I want to learn more on the topic these infographics are a great place to start and get people interested in the subject.
I hate how people dismiss infographics....still, this site is pretty tedious. - cJw314, on 07/18/2009, -0/+2Huzzah!
Three cheers for Alphabet! (Why does that sound so odd?) - morefrommoe, on 07/18/2009, -0/+2buried for wrong colors on german flag on the renewable resources infographic..
- doctressjulia, on 07/18/2009, -0/+2Word to that.
- LBWayward, on 07/18/2009, -0/+2This is a protracted Prius commercial. If you get the print version of this info graphic then its really clear. It's just a bout the Prius.
- Metasquares, on 07/18/2009, -1/+3The equalizer in a knowledge based economy is a university education, not a primary one. The work you are capable of doing with a high school diploma only pays marginally better than the work you may do without one; both are classified as "unskilled" more often than not.
And the educational system at that level remains as tiered as can possibly be. - piattorney, on 07/19/2009, -0/+2Yeah working Americans should be forced to pay for the non workers. Sounds fair to me!
- k3rfuffl3, on 07/18/2009, -0/+1Female web designer
- psolms, on 07/19/2009, -0/+1"FREE college education"
i doubt that very much. - cfuse, on 07/18/2009, -0/+1That's far too chicken and egg for my liking.
- vegr, on 07/18/2009, -0/+1It's not the parents, LBWaward, it's the people marketing for the parents.
- ikeeel4money, on 07/18/2009, -8/+9The answer is no. Education is not the great equalizer.
"in the United States, boys and girls have equal access to education, women earn 62% of what men earn "
I just calculated the one for Niger and found that women earn 56.56% which means that the US women earn 5.43% more than one of the poorest countries in the world.
Looking at Iran. the girl to boy education ratio is 1.29 so that means that more girls go to school than boys yet they earn 40.91% of what boys get. - inactive, on 07/18/2009, -1/+2I agree somewhat, the Rockefellers, Morgans, and Rothschilds had immense power. Now they have infinite power. They can print as much money as they want, and we can't audit them. They fall outside the system. Their power is essentially unlimited. This is not progress for the people, it's enslavement for all. What the U.S. experienced in the 1800s was similar to what China is experiencing now, it's growth. Prosperity is what the U.S. experienced in the 1900s, and now what we're experiencing is massive parasitic debt and corruption. We need to go back to growth. We need to return to whence we came instead of letting the power elite continue to cattle drive us. That's what Europe experienced for millennium.
The only reason you can sit there comfortably and say what you're saying is because we are allowed to continue to go further and further into debt. When that snowball finally is realized, the people will wish they had returned to their mundane textile jobs a long time sooner. - patho, on 08/26/2009, -0/+1I believe you but I'd like to see a link showing that women get more pay at the same job than men do.
The slant on that times article kinda bugs me, as someone pointed out earlier ambition≠financial ambition. Mother Teresa was an ambitious ***** and she didn't make a whole lotta dough. - homercles337, on 07/18/2009, -0/+1Alphabet, many internets for you! I hate that stupid flash *****.
- vegr, on 07/18/2009, -0/+1Lies, damn lies and statistics.
- vegr, on 07/18/2009, -0/+140 hour paid work-week? Check.
Unpaid preparation for classes? Check.
Unpaid correction of work after classes? Check. -
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