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edition.cnn.com — It's a familiar scenario. You're on your way to work, maybe running 10 minutes late, and you're trying to make up for lost time.
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- McCharlie, on 05/17/2008, -4/+11Some of these are tough to avoid, but they're right on for sure.
- themastersb, on 05/17/2008, -0/+3I thought that just by reading the article description this was leading up to "Don't masturbate while driving"
- theuber1337, on 05/17/2008, -0/+4Some aggressive driving techniques become necessary when you live in a big city, or you'll never get anywhere. I used to be a very mellow driver... then I moved to Chicago.
- pilotaz, on 05/17/2008, -14/+2i'm aggressive driver but at same time i like to driver slow...
- stiankarlsen, on 05/17/2008, -0/+6What in the ***** does that mean?
- dragonrice, on 05/17/2008, -0/+4leave her alone
- stiankarlsen, on 05/17/2008, -0/+6What in the ***** does that mean?
- bincoder, on 05/17/2008, -1/+5Drive nicer. Pay attention to your job as a driver not the job you haven't even arrived to do yet. You don't get paid to work while driving but you will certainly pay more at the pump to do it.
- DeskFlyer, on 05/17/2008, -2/+41Where's 'Don't apply make-up'?
- daleok, on 05/17/2008, -0/+4Or putting on a tie, or brushing one's teeth which I have honestly seen..........
- Aensland, on 05/17/2008, -0/+9Remember that episode of Mr Bean where he brushed his teeth and put on a pair of trousers while driving...
- marx2k, on 05/17/2008, -1/+1Every morning on my 10 minute commute to work, when I choose to drive, I see people (while driving) brushing their teeth, putting on makeup, dialing the phone (or text messaging), reading (yes.. they put the book or newspaper on the steering wheel and read for 4 seconds, look at the road for 1 second, repeat), changing clothing, digging around in the passenger/back seat (@ 60+mph), tailgating at highway speeds at a distance where I would have trouble walking between the two cars (and I am not a fatty), weaving w/ no signaling, running red lights/ramming the gas pedal to beat the yellow light, going around pedestrians in crosswalks instead of stopping/giving right of way, getting head (well, not in the morning, usually), driving drunk (bar time is @ 2AM and I sometimes am out on the road during this time)...
I live in Madison, WI but moved here from Brooklyn, NY. When I first moved here I thought that people drove poorly here mainly because they'd come into 'the city' from the outlying farms and suburbs where they're used to wide open roads and no one to call them on awful driving. But lately as I've been visiting NY every year, I've noticed that people there drive like ***** too. But when *I* was driving in NY, most of the drivers just drove defensively and accurately. So has EVERYONE just begun driving like ***** as of late?
My guess is the auto makers are heavily lobbying the state DMVs to ease testing requirements for licensing so they can have more customers. The result is more cars on the road, with a ***** driver behind the wheel of most of them. /tin-foil - nightstar, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1Or like me getting hit this week. Their fault. The other was late for an appointment but also eating!
- dragonrice, on 05/17/2008, -3/+2I digg while driving.
- kalagmail, on 05/17/2008, -6/+7......and don't talk on mobile phone
- Drazzim12, on 05/18/2008, -0/+3That was mentioned.
- GalacticRerun, on 05/17/2008, -4/+51I ***** hate tailgaters. I always slow down intentionally when someone does that. One time this guy was tailing me because he was pissed off because I wouldn't let him muscle in when the traffic merged (another thing I hate). He had no way to overtake me so I slowed down to a crawl. He was royally pissed off but it was worth it.
- stiankarlsen, on 05/17/2008, -17/+2You're annoying.
- Szandor, on 05/17/2008, -0/+3You're probably the ***** (or the same type) that he's commenting about.
- BedPost, on 05/17/2008, -1/+16Well, wait, when you say he tried to muscle in when the traffic merged, are you saying that his lane was ending and he was trying to get over? If the lane is ending and you're not letting him in, then you're being an *****.
- GalacticRerun, on 05/17/2008, -0/+9Well I'm in the UK so when I say merging it might be a lil different. Our two lanes were turning equally into one. I was in the lane where every car was waiting patiently in the traffic and he just zooms past everyone and tries to move his car infront of me without signalling and being let in. He didn't have right of way, he just wanted to put himself in front.
- Virgule, on 05/18/2008, -0/+2In canada, the blocked way have to give way. If your lane 'ends' you have to give way to vehicles already in the continuing lane. If you merge on the highway from an on-ramp, you have to give way. If an yellow elephant is blocking the left lane, you have to give way to the vehicles already on the right lane before changing lane. and so on and on and on.
You were fully in your right but you could be a little bit more 'civilized'.. ;)
- davidjunit, on 05/17/2008, -0/+6If he was trying to jump ahead of the crowd by gunning it up until the last inch of the merge then he was being an ass and you did fine; I see a lot of that and those people just need to chill and should have merged when they had an opening further back.
On that note, one thing that needs to be on the list is PLAN AHEAD. By that I mean that drivers need to look well ahead of the hood of their vehicle. If I'm coming up on a merge and I see someone driving slow as crap up ahead then I will accelerate to get ahead of them. I constantly strategize when I drive and I analyze traffic well ahead of me, something I notice not many people doing such as idiot guy that tries to last-minute merge into a solid wall of vehicles.- Szandor, on 05/17/2008, -0/+2I wish I could double digg for 'plan ahead'. A lot of people are mentally and visually focused on only about 25 meters in front of them, which is literally short-sighted and causes all kinds of traffic problems/accidents.
- KaJuN4, on 05/17/2008, -1/+2I put tailgaters in the same category as wife beaters, child molesters, and baby seal clubbers. I'm driving as fast as I am. Having your pickup truck or riced out Honda Civic only inches behind me isn't going to make me go any faster. You're annoying and needlessly endangering my safety. Screw you.
What I like to do with tailgaters on country roads is play the turning game. I put on my signal and slow way down at every intersection and then speed up again like it wasn't the road I was looking for. Oh man does it ever get them mad! - zakool21, on 05/18/2008, -0/+1Dugg for the use of "overtake."
- stiankarlsen, on 05/17/2008, -17/+2You're annoying.
- buffyangel108, on 05/17/2008, -3/+151. Crash
- paker, on 05/17/2008, -11/+4I drive the speed limit, not because I'm worried about getting a speeding ticket, it's because I HATE getting a rock chips in my car's paint, so since everyone is driving 15 - 20 mph faster then the posted speed limit I usually have the road to myself.
- linagee, on 05/17/2008, -1/+1How does this guy get dugg down?
- nicktheawesome, on 05/17/2008, -1/+5Because he is a douche.
- linagee, on 05/17/2008, -1/+1How does this guy get dugg down?
- Nidy1, on 05/17/2008, -2/+8Why does he define aggressive driving as speeding and tailgating then list speeding and tailgating?
- squarepegs, on 05/17/2008, -3/+43#6 is "Don't push the wrong pedal." Wow, thanks CNN. I'm so glad you told me before it's too late.
- marx2k, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1It's CNN. Come on. I am surprised they were able to materialize as many points as they did!
- SmellyGeekBoy, on 05/17/2008, -1/+6Where I come from, cars have three pedals.
- twiztidsinz, on 05/17/2008, -0/+2Why are there six pedals when there's only four directions?
- Szandor, on 05/17/2008, -2/+2That was for the teenage female drivers, I assume.
- jlebrech, on 05/17/2008, -4/+4I like to coast towards the light when i know they will be green. and try to save stopping and starting in traffic jams, yet when the road is all clear still like to go fast.
I dont like goin fast for no reason. - parkamark, on 05/17/2008, -4/+9"In fast-moving traffic, Lewis recommends a safe distance of one car length for every 10 mph."
Really? Has this girl actually done elementary physics? Remember E=1/2mv^2 ? The kinetic energy a mass has when moving? This equation is a fundamental physics one and basically means if you go twice as fast as the speed you were at, you have 4 times as much kinetic energy than you had previously. So her linear correlation of "1 car length per 10 mph" is absolute *****. Not to mention the fact your reaction time stays pretty much constant meaning you travel even further at high speeds before realising you have to hit the brakes!
Good points raised in the article, but I'm glad I don't believe everything I read online.- secrity, on 05/17/2008, -0/+17A 2 second following distance is more realistic -- at all speeds.
- wallyhartshorn, on 05/17/2008, -0/+23re: "one car length for every 10 mph"
That's bad advice simply because it is very difficult to judge. A better rule of thumb is "2 seconds". It's easier to count time than to judge distance and at faster speeds it automatically results in a longer distance.
As for whether the physics is right, I've no idea, other than to point out that the car in front of you is also moving forward, so unless that car is stopped by a head-on collision or a brick wall mysteriously appearing in the road, I suspect you'll be fine with a 2 second following time.
- amphoterous, on 05/17/2008, -1/+19In summary, driving requires a certain amount of concentration to be safe. If you can't devote at least that much brainpower, then don't drive.
- Envark, on 05/17/2008, -0/+3That would be nice for me -- the roads around here would be practically empty.
- nightstar, on 05/17/2008, -0/+4I drive in California! And seen way too many people that should not be driving...
- lennyp75, on 05/17/2008, -2/+2Push the wrong pedal?
Seriously?- ReidFleming, on 05/17/2008, -0/+3This is quite common. IIRC, it's mostly due to people who drive automatic-transmission cars 'two-footed'. This is very bad for emergency situations. You can usually tell these people by the brake lights that are flickering while driving steady down the highway.
- marx2k, on 05/17/2008, -4/+3???????? Do people realy drive like that? Who the ***** teaches them to drive like that????
- dudefaceguyman, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1When I was first learning to drive I actually made the mistake of the wrong pedal at a local coffeeshop drive through. But not because I was driving two footed, but because my right foot was inbetween both pedals. So when I meant to ease the brake as I put it in drive to leave I actually revved up the engine pretty loud.
Unfortunately the chick at the shop was really really really really really hot and I sheepishly said, "whoops" while I crawled away in my car embarrassed...Could've been worse, if I was in drive I'd of gunned it right into the fence ahead of me...
- ReidFleming, on 05/17/2008, -0/+3This is quite common. IIRC, it's mostly due to people who drive automatic-transmission cars 'two-footed'. This is very bad for emergency situations. You can usually tell these people by the brake lights that are flickering while driving steady down the highway.
- kylere, on 05/17/2008, -2/+5If you do not pass on the right in Michigan you will never pass, the clowns like to form a line doing 65 in a 70MPH zone that is miles long in the left hand lane with them all waiting for someone ELSE to get over.
- theuber1337, on 05/17/2008, -1/+1I rarely have to do that on 196 or 94... in almost all my time driving they move over to the left when I'm coming. Of course it could be because I'm coming at them at 85< MPH...
- breadfred, on 05/17/2008, -2/+3Some of these items are over the top. Of course, while you are doing an overtaking maneuver or going round a corner, don't turn the knobs on your radio. But going steady on a motorway, keeping your distance and paying attention to the road, you can safely fiddle with your knob as much as you want. If you stop that, you Smoking in a car is more dangerous than that; with the added danger of dropping your cigarette and can you imagine the frantic searching after that?
- Chompy, on 05/17/2008, -2/+32"Passing on the right" BS. If some idiot is doing 55 in the left lane, guess what: I'm passing on the right.
- ReidFleming, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1I'll give them some time to move over but, if they don't, I'll go around. It is those people that aren't being courteous. Although my car has 'speed' in the model (Mazdaspeed6), I actually have more fun cornering and accelerating. I tool around barely over the speed limit but still come across the clueless in the 'fast lane' going way under the limit.
- CybrStuff, on 05/17/2008, -1/+2Well, not passing on the right is actually a corollary to "keep right except to pass," which IMHO should be the standard everywhere. Sure, there are some cases where you don't need to keep all the way right (merging traffic on wide highways), but I think in general a speed gradient makes a hell of a lot more sense. If this rule were followed, you wouldn't have to pass on the right, but alas, people (Americans, anyway, and especially Californians) feel entitled to drive whatever speed they want in whichever lane they want.
- Szandor, on 05/17/2008, -0/+3In my state it's the law that slower traffic keep right on interstates/highways.
And yes, I've seen people pulled over for it.
- stk198323, on 05/17/2008, -0/+17Is it only me of that article was created in order to show that the other drive some nice car? That whole part about the turning signal was about plugging the fact that he drove a jaguar XKR to that wedding (well he was in the car, not driving it) and then the fact he drove that A4 convertible to a music concert. The whole part about the turning signal was based on the car he was in and offered no statistic or reason why it's unsafe! He didn't even talked about NOT using your turn signal but rather about forgetting to remove them... the former seems more dangerous then the later!
>>In Santa Monica, California, in 2003, an 86-year-old man drove his car through a crowded farmer's market, killing 10. Elderly drivers >>rank as one of the safest groups, often sustaining unblemished driving records over long periods.
Then he goes from talking about how an 86 year old killed 10 person to immediatly stating that elderly people are usuall safe on the road :S- marx2k, on 05/17/2008, -0/+3I agree with your first statement. That article had 2 plugs in there that didn't need to be in there and served no real purpose to the story except to sell cars. That's irritating, but it's not something I DON'T expect from a non-news CNN article.
Elderly drivers, though... they are really bad at driving as they get up there in age. I hate being behind one that's obviously just confused as all hell but still driving. - bossm4n, on 05/17/2008, -0/+3Call me biased, but after almost being killed this week by an 80+ year old woman who pulled out in front of me because she said she didn't see me, even though it was mid-morning, I'm driving a white car and I was going under the speed limit, I think driver tests/evaluations should be mandated for people above a certain age, 70, 75, 80. My wife had the exact same thing happen less than two years ago.
- marx2k, on 05/17/2008, -0/+3I agree with your first statement. That article had 2 plugs in there that didn't need to be in there and served no real purpose to the story except to sell cars. That's irritating, but it's not something I DON'T expect from a non-news CNN article.
- daleok, on 05/17/2008, -2/+1Like a few have already commented, it is sometimes likely I will pass on the right since everyone seems to think it is their God given right to be in the passing lane. Only problem is they are not passing anyone. Also, there is a high percentage of people who never use their turn signals for any reason. If you are not going to use that little lever on the left side of your steering wheel, I have a suggestion. Why not just remove it.......you're not using it anyway.
- hackop, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1Thankfully, here we have those big electronic signs that tell people to get the hell out of the left lane unless you're passing. I'm not sure if it helps or not, but at least they're there to remind people.
- Rhendal, on 05/17/2008, -1/+12Buckle up is on the list. I shouldn't buckle up?
- khaavren, on 05/18/2008, -0/+1Just reiterating how badly written this article was.
- ahoyhoy, on 05/17/2008, -1/+13#0: Don't masturbate. Seriously, that freaks people out at red lights, trust me.
- wrestlingnrj, on 05/17/2008, -1/+2I go against at least one of these rules. I almost always go for a drive when I'm upset, I find it very relaxing and I usually end up driving around 5 mph under the speed limit.
As far as tailgating goes, if you're driving under the speed limit, get the hell out of the fast lane! - MalTheObscure, on 05/17/2008, -0/+4"All very well if you, like I did, took an Audi A4 S-line Convertible to see them at this year's Coachella Festival, but what happens if you've had a great, sober festival, but end up in a fight with the wife while driving home (which didn't happen, obviously, as she adored the sporty drop-top)?"
WTF? I guess if you have a nice car, nobody will ever get in a fight with you. This is CNN? - kurtwinter, on 05/17/2008, -2/+4Very simple list of rules:
1. If someone is tailgating you, let them pass.
2. Stay right at all times, unless passing.
3. Old people should not drive.
I don't care about any of the other ***** on this list. I know that multitasking while driving is bad, and goddamit use a bluetooth while driving, but if people would just let faster traffic pass, most of the accidents on highways would be avoided. Its not your job to police the speed limit by driving 55 in the left lane of a freeway.- bdbr, on 05/17/2008, -1/+2"3. Old people should not drive."
Actually the roads would statistically be much safer if those under 25 weren't allowed to drive.- Szandor, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1I'd vote for that.
Or at least require them to all drive Ford Festivas or Aspires. - KaJuN4, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1So everyone suddenly becomes a completely safe driver once they reach an age that was pulled out of thin air? Awesome!!
Not all of us young drivers are a danger to everyone on the road. It's bad enough that the trouble makers give other young drivers a bad name but I shouldn't have to pay more for insurance just because of the actions of other people around my age. Young drivers are more dangerous? Tell that to the old lady who slammed into the back of me at 35mph without even hitting the brakes.
- Szandor, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1I'd vote for that.
- LaughingMan11, on 05/18/2008, -0/+2What do you mean by "use a bluetooth?"
I know you mean bluetooth handsfree or headset, but this is a pet peeve of mine that people use "bluetooth" to describe the headset, while in fact it is the protocol.
It's sort of like saying, let me use my TCP/IP to send you pictures.
Oh, and I disagree with your implication that slower drivers, nevermind if they follow the rules of the road, are the ones who are causing accidents. It's douchebags who decide to push the limits of speed and responsibility that do. Everyone else is collateral damage.
- bdbr, on 05/17/2008, -1/+2"3. Old people should not drive."
- Kallius, on 05/17/2008, -0/+6We need another category: Assholes.
1) You are driving, in the right-hand lane if there is more than one lane, and there is an upcoming side street. There is no traffic behind you. A car approaches along the side street from the right, and without stopping at the stop sign, turns onto your street right in front of you, forcing you to brake fairly hard. Then the same car putters along under the speed limit. If they weren't in such a hurry, could the driver of that car not waited perhaps three or four seconds for you to pass and THEN pull onto the street?
2) You are waiting to turn left onto a busy intersection. There is one car in front of you. The light turns green, and no one can turn left because of oncoming traffic. The traffic is so heavy, you both have to wait until the light changes red before turning. Except when the light turns red, the driver in front of you doesn't move, forcing you to wait in that exact same spot for yet another light change. Others may be idle enough and rich enough to waste gas and have nowhere in particular to go, but you certainly cannot afford the time or money to be uselessly sitting at traffic lights.
3) There is an advanced green light allowing you to turn. No one is running the light from oncoming traffic, no pedestrians are disobeying the "Don't Walk" signal. Yet the driver in front of you feels compelled to wait until the advanced green disappears, and then roars through the intersection, stranding you and forcing you to wait for oncoming traffic. I cannot think of any reason why a driver would do this except on purpose.
4) And while we're at assholish behaviours, pedestrians who are fully ambulatory think that is their god-given right to languidly stroll across the street on a red light, forcing the drivers who have the green light to wait while the pedestrians who cannot be bothered to obey traffic signals and wait perhaps half a minute to cross the street, since they are obviously not in a hurry to be anywhere.
I have had all of these scenarios happen to me a number of times, and I am sure most readers have had at least one of these happen to them.
"I drive really slow in the ultra-fast lane, while people behind me are going insane. I'm an *****!" - Denis Leary- friendlyman, on 05/17/2008, -0/+0I'm sorry but in my country we drive on the left hand lane. Reading what you said makes my head hurt.
- Szandor, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1It's not rocket science.
Right = Left
Left = Right
- Szandor, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1It's not rocket science.
- bdbr, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1A lot of what you write is just drivers being apprehensive (or possibly not paying attention), not necessarily trying to be an *****.
It does irritate the ***** out of me when walkers languidly stroll across intersections, likely fully aware that they're holding up an entire line of cars waiting to turn. Somehow blocking peoples' way is only bad manners if the others are on foot, but its perfectly acceptable if the others are on wheels.- Szandor, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1I find that a good time to make sure my horn if functioning at full capacity.
- KaJuN4, on 05/17/2008, -0/+15) You're on an interstate onramp and the driver in front of you refuses to go faster than 35mph until you're ON the interstate with semi trucks barreling down on you at twice your current speed.
6) You're on the interstate in the right lane like you should be. There are a few other vehicles around you but you can still easily be passed. Another driver is coming up behind you at a higher rate of speed and it's obvious they'll have to pass you at some point. That driver proceeds to get right on your bumper before passing when they could easily have done it while maintaining a safe distance.
I'm also adding cyclists in with pedestrians. They just love taking full advantage of their right-of-way and do stuff that would get you in big trouble if you were in a car. If they want us to share the road then they can share equal responsibility for their actions. - Virgule, on 05/18/2008, -0/+17) A light corner is approaching. You MUST coast for 400 feet THEN apply the brake to loose that extra one and a half km/h before you steer in. The braking step is mandatory because a car cannot take a corner, any corner, without applying the brakes first.
- friendlyman, on 05/17/2008, -0/+0I'm sorry but in my country we drive on the left hand lane. Reading what you said makes my head hurt.
- franklymister, on 05/17/2008, -0/+5"All very well if you, like I did, took an Audi A4 S-line Convertible to see (Arctic Monkeys) at this year's Coachella Festival"
Snottiest. Comment. Today.
Then again, probably representative of the typical ironic-mustached hipster that listens to them, anyway. - Epik, on 05/17/2008, -0/+31 car length for every 10mph is probably a good rule of thumb. You're definitely much safer than the 2-second rule and that safety is worth much more than the frustration of a car coming in front of you. And you will most likely get to your destination in just about the same amount of time.
- bdbr, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1I find car lengths much easier to gauge than 2-seconds. Its just a wild-assed guess to determine how far a car travels in 2 seconds.
- Szandor, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1Use a reference point to calculate the two seconds (center line markers, road kill, etc.)
- bincoder, on 05/19/2008, -0/+1I try to allow any large number of car lengths when I can according to traffic. I do that not so much for safety but because I like to look at anything but the back of someones car while driving, im more relaxed not having to pay attention to the one in front, and I save fuel since if the nearest other car is a long way off there is no need to ever slam on or even tap the brakes. Brakes are bad, brakes eat gasoline, use the gas pedal to slow, not the brakes. With some room, its a simple way to save $$$.
- bdbr, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1I find car lengths much easier to gauge than 2-seconds. Its just a wild-assed guess to determine how far a car travels in 2 seconds.
- kristianv, on 05/17/2008, -2/+2I'm a Gen-Y and apparently we're known for our short attention spans :) I have found myself calling or texting while driving and having a near hit (I don't believe in near miss ;)) along the way. Everybody knows it is wise to focus on the driving, it's just hard to not get bored.
- Szandor, on 05/17/2008, -0/+2They've got great ADD medications these days.
As for bored, the interior of your car is not your desk or media center. - khaavren, on 05/18/2008, -0/+1dugg for not believing in near misses, I too am a faithful believer of the near hit.
- Szandor, on 05/17/2008, -0/+2They've got great ADD medications these days.
- Aeron, on 05/17/2008, -0/+2If I give the car ahead of me the right amount of space, other cars keep turning in and filling the gap I made, and then drive slower than me
- mikeas, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1That was a stupid story.
- HaloZero, on 05/17/2008, -1/+2I don't get it, why do people still not buckle up? You would think it would be a very simple thing to do that doesn't take much time or effort. Apparently though, half the people in accidents aren't bucked up. Idiots.
- Szandor, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1More room for those of us who don't think of the windshield as an exiting-the-vehicle device.
- KaJuN4, on 05/17/2008, -0/+2I feel naked without a seatbelt, even when just moving the car a few feet. But what's strange is that I'm also more than happy to jump on a motorcycle. With full gear of course.
- dildoolielly, on 05/17/2008, -1/+4Too perfect not to be true...
I was driving yesterday when I saw a guy driving a hummer with the following:
1) License Plate: Sci Fi 6
2) The Jesus Fish
3) Bush/Cheney sticker
4) A sticker saying "marriage = (man bathroom symbol) + (woman bathroom symbol)
5) a 9-11 "We'll never forget" thing..
So, he thinks that Jesus would vote for Bush, destroy the environment, deny people the choice of loving who they choose and refuse to forgive.
Too funny.
p.s. His nasty fat ass wife was wearing a big fur so I guess Jesus would also kill animals for fashion.- Szandor, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1I get existential nausea when I see these types of people.
- bdbr, on 05/17/2008, -0/+2There's a reason that rental cars don't rent to the under-25 age group, and car insurance is higher for 25 & younger (particularly males). The percentage of dangerous drivers is far higher in that age group than any other. If someone cuts me off or does something stupidly aggressive, nearly all of the time its a young male driver.
Its easy enough to say "don't drive aggressively", but most of the time the people who should be hearing that won't be listening. I didn't at that age, either. I consider myself lucky that I wasn't one of the ones who got in a serious accident.- geniusj, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1Nearly all rental car companies will rent to people 21 or over for a nominal fee. Some will even do 18. If it's for business and a (large?) company is paying, you can usually get it no matter what your age (I've been working full time in tech since I was 16, so this has been something I've experienced in the past).
- KaJuN4, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1As a member of that age group that practice really irritates me. Why should I have to pay more just because other people my age act like idiots? In my experience younger drivers are the best to be around. It's the middle-aged men in pickup trucks who think traffic laws don't apply to them who are the dangerous ones. And the old lady to slammed into the back of me going 35. Yet even after that I probably still pay more for insurance than she does. Just because I haven't reached some magical age when I'm suddenly a much better driver. Ridiculous.
- geniusj, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1Nearly all rental car companies will rent to people 21 or over for a nominal fee. Some will even do 18. If it's for business and a (large?) company is paying, you can usually get it no matter what your age (I've been working full time in tech since I was 16, so this has been something I've experienced in the past).
- bearcat8543, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1how could anyone not know these before? these aren't useful tips, they're common knowledge.
- daleok, on 05/17/2008, -0/+0I agree with you 100% that these tips are common knowledge. The problem is that a good share of drivers don't have the "common" sense to use them.
- geniusj, on 05/17/2008, -0/+2Luckily Acura/Honda haven't yet made the navigation worthless while moving (it's still fully controllable -- both by voice and by hand.) I've definitely had an occasion or two where I get into someone else's car and *I* as the passenger cannot even add a destination to the Nav or change the XM station to something other than a preset unless they're going under 10mph or something.
Note to auto manufacturers: If that's what you're going to do, at least have voice controls. - KaJuN4, on 05/17/2008, -0/+2Too many people have forgotten how to drive safely and it's ridiculous that anyone can renew their license just by paying a little bit of money. I'd be all for a system of mandatory retesting.
- jaydogdigg, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1Thank god at least I can still drive drunk.
- sgtpppr, on 05/17/2008, -0/+2Apparently CNN is now dealing in the top 10 list game. Didn't we just have a crappy CNN list about 'things to watch out for when buying a plane ticket'? These lists are seriously aimed at the mentally retarded.
- afrik, on 05/18/2008, -0/+1don't buckle up?
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