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- chrono13, on 10/12/2007, -35/+290Bug. How did this slip by?
Easy multiple voting. Please fix : )
I see this on almost every voting system implimented on any site or board.
Just click really fast. Easy, multiple votes.
It took the admins of SpreadFirefox MONTHS to fix it after I showed them. I am making this public so hopefuly it won't take months.
I love the new threading! Now perhaps discussions can become a bit more intelligent. - Kev585, on 10/12/2007, -68/+294Someone beat you to it kevin
http://digg.com/technology/New_comment_system_#c1141690
Though they dugg to google. - keane, on 10/12/2007, -26/+138goodbye slashdot. thanks for the good times. may you rest in peace.
- kevinrose, on 10/12/2007, -16/+95coming soon...
- kevinrose, on 10/12/2007, -11/+72digg v3 : )
- lo0ol, on 10/12/2007, -33/+93Kevin Rose, who was your insider on this one? I just saw the new comments get implemented, and yet you ALREADY HAD THE STORY UP. Something sounds sneakily suspicious here.
And for those of you who tend to miss these types of things (there always are!)... that was a joke. :)
Looking great so far! Finally... usable comments. Ooh, though the edit box shrinks realllly small. - AverageJoe, on 10/12/2007, -38/+94Beautiful... simply beautiful... joygasm!
- TRUEPATRIOT, on 10/12/2007, -13/+62nice catch so you get 6diggs from me =D
EDIT:it said six when i voted for you by clicking alot then on refresh it only showed 2 so i guess its not a glitch? - Tobey, on 10/12/2007, -9/+52This is wonderful. It will definitly make it harder for people to abuse the comment rating system like they did before. Or at least when they do it now, it won't go un-noticed.
- Cryobat, on 10/12/2007, -11/+51It seems like we have a slight bug on Safari though... See image here: http://brutus.ih.nu/~sebjma/temp/diggbug.png
- boolean, on 10/12/2007, -9/+47I buried a comment then clicked on "show comment". Is there a way to hide it again?
- kevinrose, on 10/12/2007, -11/+46refresh - doesn't count them
- mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -10/+43the new look is awesome! much cleaner! i also love the ability to edit and to easily rate comments (along with all the other improvements), its great!
kevin: i'm updating this to let you know that there may be a bug. it said "available for: 28500 seconds". - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -21/+54When I expand comments below the viewing threshold is causes IE7 beta to crash...
And it's the first time I've ever crashed in IE7. Thanks! - boolean, on 10/12/2007, -3/+320 diggs shouldn't have a plus sign, I dunno :)
+ 2 diggs
0 diggs
- 4 diggs
makes more sense to me.. - lo0ol, on 10/12/2007, -4/+32I'd be interested to give it a trial first. I'm of the opinion that even if you have a dissenting opinion, if you make a valid argument people will digg it regardless. If someone takes the time to post a detailed, thoughtful comment that happened to criticize Apple, I might digg it even though I'm a big fan of Apple, as long as it's not a flame and it brings worthy arguments and new perspectives to the discussion.
- wheremyarm, on 10/12/2007, -3/+30The absolute first thing I noticed was how many comments on each page were "buried." It kind of seems like this is getting abused already. But I'd also like to see comments that have maybe +5 get turned a different color? Make it easier for the good ones to be identified.
- nights0223, on 10/12/2007, -5/+31Yeah, I just added 6 to yours. Needs fixing
- ThePhilomath, on 10/12/2007, -5/+27Yeah more levels to threading sound like a good idea.
ThePhilomath's Suggestions:
1) color the user's own comments
2) allow for at least three levels to threading
3) when a story is buried, and we click "show comment", it can't be hidden again. It should be able to be hidden.
4) I think an add friend button would be a great idea, right on the comment bar.
5) Ability to rank entire threads by diggs, ranking only by diggs breaks meaning a lot of the time.
Besides that, Great job guys! Any more suggestions? - darb, on 10/12/2007, -3/+23It would be awesome, if we could see replies to our comments. In some sort of Digg User messages. It's daunting to remember what comments you posted where, and what questions you asked...then to go back and see if anyone replied.
Or...is this already a feature I'm missing? - Anchoret, on 10/12/2007, -4/+22> Now perhaps discussions can become a bit more intelligent.
No, the opposite.
It's anti-quality.
Now, any time anyone has a point and makes it well, he'll just get gonged by the people who don't like what he has to say but are too inarticulate to make a cogent counter-argument...say 85% of the people who post comments on Digg.
To judge from what I've seen so far since I've logged on, it's a mess -- if someone gives it one negative rating before it gets a positive one, it doesn't show, and who's going to go through an extra click to see it? - karamba_kid, on 10/12/2007, -9/+27Great improvement! Spell checking for the edit box would be nice though, but I'm not complaining.
- Tobey, on 10/12/2007, -7/+25One thing that would be cool though, is when you reply to a comment, the box that you type in (what the hell do you even call it??) should appear under the comment you're replying to instead of being at the bottom of the page.
You know, kind of like it does when you edit your comment? Just a thought. - jholdaway, on 10/12/2007, -17/+35I love that we can post to individual comments. But cant that lead to fights for the top of the page? ending in a less liner flow? or is there a limit to the replies to each post? Just a thought. Love it to heck anyway!
- dipswitch, on 10/12/2007, -15/+32Yeah, and apparantly you get modded down when sharing such experiences.
So, um, ok, I'm sorry...
Digg is great
Digg is great
Digg is great
Whoowhee. Do I get modded up now? - ThePhilomath, on 10/12/2007, -17/+34Yep there's a limit, the first comment has just filled up.
One suggestion: our friends comments turn green so why don't our own posts turn a different kind of color? Please add this as a now have a harder time finding my posts (too small of an icon). - chrono13, on 10/12/2007, -5/+22Awww. What the hell?
Half the bother of getting stories to the front page is having a good number next to your name.
It was also (somewhat) of an indicator as to who the contributors to digg.com were. Now all that's gone.
If you haven't guessed, I don't have a zero. So, yea, that is why I'm bitching. My numbers are gone! - darb, on 10/12/2007, -6/+22It no longer says Username(x) - where x is the number of stories submitted and dugg to the homepage.
I, personally, really liked this feature. It almost was a "credibility" factor in many ways. You could differentiate the avid digg submitter, from the casual digger .
Anyone else agree? - foxhoundadmin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16you know, one thing i've noticed (when reviewing some of my earlier posted comments) is that there's a lot of people arbitrarily "negging" comments. i can see this becoming a problem: trolls who just neg, or, in digg's case, negg comments all day with several accounts. i can see this becoming a problem with any story, ESPECIALLY any story with "apple," "microsoft," or "linux" in the title.
now, if it does become a problem, then so be it. there's an easy fix: set digg's (site-wide) default comment view threshold to "show all comments." just like the good ol' days! - ThePhilomath, on 10/12/2007, -5/+20I also like tobey's idea:
6) "One thing that would be cool though, is when you reply to a comment, the box that you type in (what the hell do you even call it??) should appear under the comment you're replying to instead of being at the bottom of the page." - ignorantcow, on 10/12/2007, -4/+19It is nice, isn't it :)
[17:29] [scottie] now to wait for some idiot to make a post about it
[17:29] [ignorantcow] hahah
[17:29] [ignorantcow] kevinrose posted it
owned :D
*edits post* AJAX-y. :p - skell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14I'm not sure if it's been said already, but when you sort by most diggs, it would be nice to see what comments were specific to what thread they came from.
Example: a comment that is a reply simply stating "yes" could have +30 diggs and show up towards the top, but confuse the heck out of the person sorting by most diggs without knowing what the "yes" was in response to. - concept10, on 10/12/2007, -9/+23Now we are able to digg-up insightful and useful comments and filter the hey dude, thats freakin cool! comments
- panique, on 10/12/2007, -8/+22One level depth does not a threaded discussion make. I think that is actually more conducive to flamewars than full threading...
Bug reports:
1) It took like almost a minute for this page to load under Safari on my 2.5Ghz Dual G5. I should be able to program a limit on how long a page should be, and comments should be multiple pages if that length is exceeded.
2) When I hit "Reply", nothing happens. I figured out I should probably scroll to the bottom of the page. Using a # anchor to jump to the bottom of the page probably isn't where it's at anyway. You should probably DOM in a new div for the textarea + buttons right where I'm hitting the reply link, not scroll the browser around madly so I can no longer see what I was reading. - relinquish, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15My only complaint is that once you "undigg" a comment and refresh, then show comment, you can't collapse it again. A little picky, yes, but it would still be handy to have a button that just hides the comment without changing the comment rating.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+19This new comment system is TOO EASY TO USE. People are gonna be undigging comments just to save themselves the effort of having to manually scroll down the page if they dont have that little scroller on their mouse (as Ive been doing haha)
You should to have a conformation window every time you digg or undigg a comment to prevent this, so that this system can retain its relevancy. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14What Im worried about is that with this voting system, is that you can end up with a group of people that use it to suspress people that simply do not fall into line with point of view expressed in an article. Take any issue, and if you dont agree with the majority, you will get buried in negetive "votes" and maybe reported. It can be a useful tool or a useful means of censorship.
- keane, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15new policy: thumbs down to anyone who has a broken caps lock key.
- chrono13, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17From what I have been reading, there are more than a few problems:
1) The voting system is easily abused.
2) Threading is only one level deep. I saw threads several layers deep ten years ago, and they weren't new then.
3) Threading is confusing and cluttered. Perhaps http://www.deathbyvanilla.com/pics/nested.png nested lines/outlines could fix the problem.
4) There is no longer a number by your name ( diggname(3) ) indicating how many front-page stories you have had. A slap in the face to those who contribute to digg by trying to make great front-page stories and articles.
5) Avatars/Icons are now so small that they are essentially pointless. To help you guess what mine is: it is a metroid.
Anything else I missed? - lo0ol, on 10/12/2007, -20/+32I LOVE the ability to target individual comments now. This is great. :)
Yes, I hit that weird seconds bug, except mine was in the two millions. Bound to be some bugs initially, eh? :) - foxhoundadmin, on 10/12/2007, -8/+20this is probably gonna get negged, but, seeing as how we're at digg, it shouldn't. the new digg comment system takes a dump all over slashdot's comment system!
this makes slashdot look soooo 1999!
...w00t! - Tobey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Well, I tried to give a thumbs up out of pity, but I accidentally clicked the thumbs down button and I don't see any way to change my vote.
- digid, on 10/12/2007, -7/+18looks great... makes me very happy I can finally reply to individual comments. The comment digging looks sweet too. I just hope it isn't abused to the point great comments get filtered by trolls and special interest censors.
- estvir, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15very nice, though there are a few bugs in ie.
if they could add in the ability to 'tag' a post (similar to /. -- like funny, spam or whatever) that would be great too.
probably the only part of digg that i like (visually). ;) - lo0ol, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Wowza. After working with this for awhile now... I'm really liking it, but it seems to really be adding a lot to page weight. This is a popular digg article (if you can call it one), so there are a lot of comments - many, many more will be added later today - but I can already tell that these pages are really going to start being beefy. It's only been, what, an hour on this story and the actual markup for this page is 300KB, and that's without all of the CSS, JavaScript, and the hundreds of small icons that make up each comment. It's one of the drawbacks to this sort of system I guess. Though it is cool to be able to see a buried comment immediately without a page refresh, so it's a tradeoff. My browser does take a bit of crunching to work through all of the rendering, though. Overall I think the extra heft of the page is worth it, though.
- Laurentvw, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Pretty neat improvement, I must say! I certainly like the ability to reply (yes, finally!) and I really like the little digg feature for the comments. Nice concept, great to see those new cool features. So, what's next ? :)
- mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -29/+39it's IE7, what do you expect? i think it would make more sense for you to send a bug report to microsoft, not digg.
- relinquish, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12No, there isnt. I share the same frustration.
- arrrrrg, on 10/12/2007, -13/+23Too much power in the hands of a few. Slashdot has been through this. Better to let a small proportion of accounts have their votes actually count on a given day, so that many fakes are needed to affect the ratings. Of course, one can get even more sophisticated (metamoderation, etc.).
- chrisgac, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14While this comment system is great, I don't think it'll take over Slashdot until we get unlimited replies working. I know Kevin has said he doesn't want a big conversation type comments section, but there are way to implement a unlimited replies system and still have a clean looking comments page and keep rating and flaming to a minimum.
I say have a limited number of reply levels, say four, that would be visible on the comment page. You could also set a maximum number of posts per level, e.g. 5 first levels, 10 second levels. After limits are reached, there would be a [read more] button that would take you to a comments page in under the user page of the digger who submitted the root comment.
Thus we have all the benefits of a unlimited comment system a la slashdot, but cleaner, more consise and easier to read over if you don't find it interesting. That should be digg in a nutshell: easier, cleaner, more consise.
I encourge any and all replies. -
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