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- Sheetz, on 10/12/2007, -9/+91calibri looks nicer anyway
- trollenlord, on 10/12/2007, -3/+72No wonder. Microsoft did some real scientific research about fonts and their usability. They put in great amounts of money to create some better fonts. They succeeded. C* family of fonts is extremely good.
- guitarromantic, on 10/12/2007, -6/+54Comic Sans is the worst. Don't give me that crap about it being easier to read, IT LOOKS LIKE A COMIC.
- david76, on 10/12/2007, -10/+53Unfortunately in large blocks of text serif fonts like Times New Roman are considerably easier to read (in print) than sans-serif fonts.
- stmiller, on 10/12/2007, -1/+40"End of an Era for Times New Roman"
This 'new' Roman font dates back to the 4th and 5th century when monks were copying manuscripts by hand which eventually led to the printing press using this 'new roman font.' The modern version used today is very similar to the original, fascinatingly enough. - Mejogid, on 10/12/2007, -7/+45http://www3.telus.net/jefmil/2005/07/
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+36"But what will happen to Times New Roman?" You move the slider till you get to it.
- jono1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+29I knew that they were replacing Times New Roman with their new serif font Cambria, but it confuses me that they would set Calibri (the Arial replacement) as the default for Word - because, expanding on what david76 said, the basic rule of thumb is for screen (web design) you use a sans-serif font (Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Tahoma, Calibri etc), and for print you use a serif font (Times New Roman, Georgia, Garamond, Cambria etc).
It has been proven time and time again that serif fonts are easier to read on paper and sans-serif fonts are easier to read on screen. - cmajewski, on 10/12/2007, -4/+31Comic sans is a joke (no pun)! I love getting press releases/*important* announcements from my company internally, and the executive assistant has decided to send it out in comic sans...I lose all respect for my CEO.
- MrUnderbridge, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20The paperless office is a myth, "bro." Do you actually have a job?
- TWiThead, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14That "Scourge of Arial" article is silly. Rather than explaining the actual differences between Helvetica and Arial (and providing well-reasoned opinions of why the former is superior), Simonson focuses upon arbitrary, internally inconsistent standards of honor and justice--almost to the point of anthropomorphizing the fonts themselves.
In all fairness, Simonson did write a much better article on the subject: http://www.ms-studio.com/articlesarialsid.html - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17couriers great for guitar tabs and the like
- ErrandboyOfDoom, on 10/12/2007, -8/+19Here (1) are some of the new fonts side by side, they aren't all completed, and so far, they're pretty poorly designed from a typefacer's perspective. But then, MS is responsible for one of the worst typefacing events of all time: arial.(2)
(1): http://hao2lian.f2o.org/wiki/pmwiki.php/Articles/TheWindowsVistaFonts
(2): http://www.ms-studio.com/articles.html - devolve, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15Calibri does not look nicer than Times NR.
A large amount of readability on paper is lost if people were to print in Calibri than Times New Roman.
As MS states, the on-screen readability is actually greatly hightened if a sans serif font is used, but the problem is that most papers written in word is actually made to be printed on paper.
Get a typographer in here to slap some sense into this. - aplusplus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Funny, I was just going to say that the only font I'd really love to see end is Comic Sans. I can't even imagine how everyone in the Britney Spears chat room would react.
- XSforMe, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17Arial one of the worst?
Now I have heard everything. - jgclark123, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12@guitarromantic
"Comic Sans... looks like a comic." (annoying capital letters removed)
Well, no *****. If every single font was designed only for businesses, people would complain that they don't have something like Comic Sans MS. The problem isn't Comic Sans MS itself; it's the idiots who type their résumés in it. - RichPowers, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12Like they say, when in Rome...
- david76, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12The reason your papers have to be in Times New Roman probably has something to do with your professor's preferences (perhaps being able to easily compare paper length) than Word's defaults.
- jonom, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10@david76 "Unfortunately in large blocks of text serif fonts like Times New Roman are considerably easier to read (in print) than sans-serif fonts."
This has been disproven repeatedly. There are many sans serif faces that work well for body copy. - bleaknik, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Get with the Times New...
The bad jokes keep coming! - 15charmaxwtf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I could never understand why people printed out their essays in comic sans. I guess it probalby is ok for tiny baloons in comic strips, but not for pages of A4 -- especially when its printed out in purple or something.
- Rickard, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Consolas is my favorite monospace font. I use it for all text editing and programming. Highly recommended for those of you who haven't bothered to replace Courier [New].
- SystemError, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calibri_(font)
- JamesWilson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I like Lucida Console
- mcbesq, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7What will happen to TNR - people will keep using it because it looks good and is universal
- Xizer, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9Shut up dumbass, that's what this site is for. GTFO
- Jugalator, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"Then you professor should ask for word count instead of page length."
Or, *gasp* actual content? But maybe that would be going too far. :-) - veracon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6And Frutiger looks better than Garamond.
You really can't compare a sans serif font and a serif font that directly (unless you have absolutely no idea of the uses of the two). - furtwan1, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9very mature comment
- cdman98, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6get the office 2007 open beta
- DocXango, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Then you professor should ask for word count instead of page length.
One of my professors would assign a 900 word essay, and subtract points if you were over +/- 5 words for the essay. May sound asinine, but when you submit a magazine/newspaper/journal article, you often get a word count requirement. - Stormwave0, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Office 2007 actually changes a lot of defaults in addition to the font. For example, the margins are now 1 inch all around instead of 1.25 on the left and right. The default font size (I think) was changed from 12 so Calibri better matched TNR in size. Furthermore, the line spacing was like 1.2 or something weird. I forget since I changed it back.
- ij00mini, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Calibri is obviously not the successor to TNR.. Take a look at the other 5 fonts, a couple of those are much closer to TNR than Calibri, but still nicer than TNR anyway.
- DocXango, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@brandizzle, this professor was a little ahead of the curve. Not only did he know how to go File -> Properties and check the word count, we e-mailed him the papers. I know it's all so high tech and all.
- TheAttacks, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Thanks MS, i was tired of that old font.
- ByteGuerilla, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Wow, I really like Consolas as a font for programming environments. +digg
- shuai, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I think that's because TNR has actual "bold" "italics" "bold italics" things, unlike some fonts, which depend on the word processor to do faux bold + italics.
- meefman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Not sure what the real reasoning behind naming the font "calibri" but I do know that calibri means humming bird in Russian.
- Bradl3y, on 10/12/2007, -11/+14Microsoft tried to rename the frutiger font and take it as their own and copyright it, so I don't think anybody is going to come knockin at my door if I use this for my own personal needs.
- ryanguill, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3One of the other new fonts, consolas, a fixed width font, is great for programming. Very easy on the eyes and hard to mistake one character for another.
- Bloc, on 10/12/2007, -9/+12anybody got a vista fonts download link?
- yuannerz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2times new roman is used for most papers in school because almost all universities have adopted a "style-sheet." whether it be MLA, or APA, or any other. they have many accepted fonts, and TNR is common to almost all of them.
- Durinthal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2What? Courier? I still use Fixedsys.
- MrTea, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yeah, I think APA actually requires usage of Times New Roman 12pt. I'll have to look in the book *takes a week to look in the book*.
- shawnz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I don't know why it hasn't "ended" years ago.
- wonkavsn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It may look nicer, but it's a friggin pain in the arse for writing school papers where the standard is usually TNR. 2007 auto converted a bunch of papers I had going to Calibri, which subsequently had to be converted back.
A minor hassle, but still rather presumptuous of MS. - sillywalk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Many German books used the rather cryptic Gothic typeface until the 1950s, I wouldn't trust their sense of legibility...
- Salvo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Notice how the lowercase 'g' is different between Italics and Regular in most of these fonts?
I quite like this trend, since Italics don't lend themselves to ornate characters. - theone3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"way to stay as far away from standards as much as possible."
Microsoft IS the standard.
Office 2007 is the biggest thing in Office since Office 95. -
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