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- nrvous250gt, on 10/12/2007, -6/+37It never fails. As soon as something becomes popular, people HAVE to hate it because they were doing/liking/listening to it before everyone else. Now that it's popular, the magic is gone.
If you don't like it because it's not aesthetically pleasing to you, that's one thing. If you don't like it because other people do, you're a complete asshat.
Get over yourselves, honestly. - GaffleSnipe, on 10/12/2007, -5/+31I think it's neat right now, but who knows in about 6 months, and 5,000 HDR digg stories later, it might make me want to puke.
- GawtMilk, on 10/12/2007, -4/+27It means it is being whored beyond belief, people think that an HDR photo means instant win.
- GaffleSnipe, on 10/12/2007, -4/+24Nice collection of knowledge. I have mixed feelings about HDR, but it's good to know how to do it if I want.
- sxtxixtxcxh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15@gafflesnipe: if done right, you wouldn't notice. unfortunately, most of th HDR that hits digg is crap.
- keepclear, on 10/12/2007, -12/+24Why mixed feelings ?
Its not like its going to replace traditional photography - Just some nice eye candy - zaqintosh, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12"needs no skills and has no real value".
We are talking about artwork right?
I'm tired of people treating everything in terms of l33tness. Just because something is easy to do, doesn't make it less appealing. HDR is a tool like any other tool, you can do it and make a photo look subtle, and you can do it and make a photo look like a cartoon.
Artwork isn't measured based solely on technical skill of the creator. Sometimes a simple photo that took 2 seconds to shoot invokes real emotion in people, and that photo becomes popular.
I can't believe I'm watching people bitch and whine about this. Is anyone over 12 years old here? Anyone?? - vuke69, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12I hereby accuse diggers worldwide of committing genocide against WordPress blogs.
This act is vile and reprehensible, and cannot go unpunished. - Poco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Thanks, but photography is like cheating. I'll stick with sketches.
You know, the one with a pencil and paper. - Poco, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10I don't understand why there are so many people here putting down HDR.
The whole point of the technique is to get the range that you cannot get from current camera technology, not to create something unrealistic. Digital camera sensors are not capable of capturing a range of more than about 8 or 9 stops of light. That means if you have something really bright in a scene and something really dark you will loose one or the other. Nothing fancy here. The only way to take a photograph of that scene without blowing the highlights or loosing the details in the shadow is with HDR.
Of course, once digital camera sensor technology improves, HDR won't be necessary anymore.
Sure, you can get some crazy photos from it, but so too can you get crazy stuff from a film camera under the right conditions. Many of the examples on that page are a bit over the top but others are an excellent example of the use, like here http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/high-dynamic-range.htm - polyGone, on 10/12/2007, -6/+14It's GREAT for 3d work. I use HDRI's for mapping reflections and I also use it for lighting.
- smokinjuan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10GawtMilk is right - all new and improved technology should be hidden from the public - if you don't agree I'll poke your eyes out with a stick and bash your head in with a rock... then I'll club me a bitch, drag her back to my cave and make her draw me a HDRI picture about it on my cave wall. I'll let you see it for a raccoon pelt or some dried seeds... you ***** idiot.
- selrahc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Break out the silver, and heat up the mercury... good old Daguerreotypes are the way to go.
- KillerJ59J, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9http://tutorialblog.org.nyud.net:8090/hdr-tutorials-roundup/
- mga911, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12In Soviet Russia, the HDR overlords blend us!
- FieldAnonymouse, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Why not go all the way? Go back to REAL real photography. You know, with a pinhole camera, and film that takes 2 minutes to actually get a usable image?
- selrahc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7They don't understand what he is talking about, so they digg him down... HDR does have value, as most things do. Just a lot of people don't use it in a way that I would find all that valuable.
- EthylAdded, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7"It's GREAT for 3d work. I use HDRI's for mapping reflections and I also use it for lighting.
Please tell me my blunder, ohhh so wise diggers...."
Digg from me. Only an idiot would digg you down for highlighting a fascinating alternate use of HDR. - dennbruce, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Please at least check if duggmirror grabbed the page before posting the link.
- smokinjuan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5The free GIMP does it too: http://www.gimp.org/ ...
with this free plugin: http://turtle.as.arizona.edu/jdsmith/exposure_blend.php - monergism, on 10/12/2007, -7/+12HDR is the junkfood of photography.
Good, but has no value. - EtherGnat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"but at the moment the web is flooded with talentless fools who are churning out complete crap"
The world (not just the web) has ALWAYS been flooded with talentless fools churning out complete crap. The interesting thing is nobody is able to agree on what is crap, and even if we could it's not hurting anybody. Don't be such an elitist dick. - smokinjuan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5@robotify - Yeah, I was going to say that earlier, but as I wrote I realized that HDR is fairly new and the definitions seem a little vague so far (so I pussed out and erased the comment). Sure, the .hdr[i] format is definitely high dynamic range, but anyone who has an HDR file will convert it to .jpg for public consumption since most of the public doesn't have and hdri viewer. It's not an .hdr image at that point, but is derived from one and carries the visual benefits (as opposed to editing benefits).
- smokinjuan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7The GIMP does it too...
http://turtle.as.arizona.edu/jdsmith/exposure_blend.php - EtherGnat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Wow, there's a lot of hate going around for HDR. I think it's important to remember that the effects can be extreme or subtle, depending on the needs of the photographer. Yes, HDR can be used to create shots that look like something out of a carnival (not that there's anything wrong with that), but they can also be used to improve shots taken in difficult lighting situations. The human eye has a greater dynamic range than a camera. There shouldn't be a problem with using HDR to more closely emulate what the eye can see.
- chrisostermann, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8HDR is "neato"
kinda like sweet tarts are
every now and then but not every day. - duckarrowtypes, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Be careful not to sound too elitist.
I'm a daguerreotypist which I think counts as "REAL" photography and people often think that I *hate* digital photography. Quite the contrary. Digital has its place as does emulsion and, indeed, daguerreotypes. HDR also has its place and it seems to me though I've not tried it myself that it is a technique that needs to be used sparingly and appropriately. - keepclear, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Nail on the head I think, nice one.
- EtherGnat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5"All of society is vulnerable to heard mentality, diggers, doubly so."
Well I herd that! - rstarr, on 10/12/2007, -8/+11WHY DO YOU CONTINUE DOING THAT?
You know you are going to get dugg down into the 9th ring of hell!!!
And its NOT FUNNY!
And if you think it is...well...then I'm sorry for yelling at the special kid.... - Poco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3How does $199 become $100 ish?
And why would I want something that takes 30 days to download? - vuke69, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6All of society is vulnerable to heard mentality, diggers, doubly so.
- smokinjuan, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7Hey, how about a few of you nay-sayers actually saying why HDR is over-hyped junkfood, web2.0, attention-whoring crap. If you don't have a tripod and you're just too lazy to take the bracketed images and process the data, just say so.
- selrahc, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6High Dynamic Range
- polyGone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3http://www.aversis.be/extra_tutorials/vray_hdri.htm
- robotify, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4yes, but this is still not HDR. In the end, the image from GIMP is still only getting 8 linear bits per color per pixel. HDR requires a much higher range than just 8 bits, and usually has either many more bits per pixel, or is stored in a exponential file format, rather than linear numbering.
- popothebright, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Looking for an even easier way to create HDR photos?
Set the next generation of digital cameras to "HDR Mode". - 0crabby0, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2People are probably reading this article right now, trying to figure out how to use HDR in their EBAY listings...lol
- feld, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Creating HDR images only becomes a "problem" when it is overused. Just like any filter in Photoshop or any other "special visual effect" it often gets over used when it first gets well know to the masses and then it starts to create a visual cliche and people (hopefully) back off from it for awhile.
To me, it is only "misused" if people use it for the sake of using it rather than using it becuase the visual outcome meets a specific need or desire. This is true of any photographic process. For the needs of most of my clients, shooting with a medium format digital back gives them the type of image they desire, however, I also make platinum prints, cyanotypes, gum albumen, pinhole and several other "alternative process" prints and use these for clients only when it suits their specific, visual requirment. Rather than meet with a client and say, "we should use a pinhole image becuase it looks cool," I first come up with an idea based on what a client wants the image to look like or what their ideal outcome is and then pick a process based on that need, rather than the other way around.
The same goes for HDR, as long as someone uses it because it suits their specific need and not just, "'cause it looks cool," I have no problem with it. - dualaudi, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Dude... getting tired of these sites going down so fast...
- CoolWind, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3That's right. It could all be done automatically by the camera.
- itsmrdumass, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I don't see how these stories keep getting dugg when the site is down. Do people just digg off of the digg entry?
- smokinjuan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Not $650, free. See a few posts above (you know, the one containing relevant info that was buried by the brain-dead twelve year olds).
- smokinjuan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2If you want a good psychological comparison of HDR to regular photography have a look at some color photographs from ~1920 [ http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empire/ ] . You're used to seeing photographs from that era in B&W, but when you find color photographs from that time it's almost like you've entered a new world. The switch from LDR to HDR is the same. The switch from HDR to volumetric 3d will be the same too... and when the images bypass the eyes, optical nerves and are passed directly to the visual cortex - that'll be wierd too, but you'll get used to it.
- MinisterOrange, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Next cool invention: Contacts that make everythin HDR
- ThirdPrize, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Seen quite a few now and the novelty has worn off. Some of then are quite good (changed my desktop to a photo of Chicago) but some are not. In the wrong hands the results look a bit like those paintings you get done on velvet. Normally of a unicorn or a waterfall or something.
I take it HDR is a bit closer to how our eyes see a landscape than an ordinary photo of it? Thats why its a big thing in 3d modelling packages and in games like Half Life 2. - fotbr, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1If I had a good way to dispose of the mercury, I'd probably give that a try.
- metlin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1All you need is a half decent digital SLR, a cheap tripod (hell, look at eBay for an Amvona) and download the Photomatrix Basic version (http://www.hdrsoft.com/download.html) and you are set. The whole thing isn't as hard as most people here seem to think it is.
- fotbr, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1I do that too
- semicharmedchck, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm not sure if it was linked elsewhere, but this site tells you how to do HDR from photoshop, so if you have it you don't need to purchase or download other software:
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/digital-blending.shtml -
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