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- theyallsaypete, on 11/01/2007, -1/+58For everyone in here hating on designers who use stock resources or prefab tools....
People need to stop being such snobs about design processes. The truth is most commercial design clients don't give a ***** about how their design was created.... the main goal is for eye-catching compositions that communicate ideas. If it creates greater job satisfaction for you to know that you didn't consciously use anyone else's ideas or tools for your own work then great. But don't try to expound the idea that anyone who finds inspiration or methods for creating their own designs through looking at others work is somehow cheapening the process. "Good artist's borrow.... Great artist's steal" - Picasso. - Briankb68, on 10/12/2007, -1/+45Not every designer who uses Photoshop is a web designer.
- BonhamsGhost, on 10/12/2007, -3/+25Thats ridiculous, its about the artist, not the tools. I suppose you want to rag on designers for being fontwhores too?
- anjinash, on 10/12/2007, -8/+28"just great, more brushes to add to my collection and forgot where I got them from.."
Ever heard of bookmarks? - joenewbreed, on 10/12/2007, -7/+27Some of these are pretty cool... DeviantArt has a lot more though.
- GawtMilk, on 11/01/2007, -9/+26"Every designer needs an arsenal of photoshop brushes whether its grunge or techno swirls"
No, we really, REALLY don't. If a technique is ridiculed whilst making signatures, what good will it do for web design? Maybe these could be useful when your making your Counter-Strike clan a web page, but that is about it. - roomforpanic, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16@cacoe
It must be nice to have such high "ethics" that you can turn down income at will. Some of us aren't quite so fortunate. In my opinion, one of the best web designers working today is Cameron Moll, and he openly uses Jason Gaylor's foliage brushes on his portfolio. Of course, he publishes web design books instead of reading them and using them to condescend to others.
By the way, if I read that book, is sole the only fish I'll stop losing, or will I be able to hang on to my cod and flounder too? - diggless, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18@ cacoe
have you ever worked on a project where the budget doesn't have any provision for purchasing art? There is only enough money for the time it takes to do the project? Such as nearly every small business design project?
when you are working on a project where the choice is: spend your salary on stock art, or use free stuff and still pay your bills. I think in that scenario you will change your tune about using free art. - tdyer, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13@cacoe....a real man wouldnt use any of the features in photoshop, and instead would code it all pixel by pixel in gl. who are you to be using someone else's line algorithm? you are weak.
- BonhamsGhost, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12@cacoe
I've read Shaughnessy's book too, great read.
I dont' think everything should be sourced from somewhere else, but theres nothing wrong with using elements other people have created. Of course, only if they were specifically created to be a resource for artists.
Again it comes down to the person, not the tools. A hack is a hack no matter how many brushes, filters, etc. he has. A true artist will put his personal style on a piece, not matter what he uses to make it - whiteyMcBrown, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10I'm a professional designer. I have absolutely no problem using premade brushes. It's all about how you use it. It does make some designs easier to make, but a trained, experienced designer can see through fakers pretty quick. I COULD spend an hour or more perfecting my own rusty brush that looks almost exactly the same as the one I got for free or I could do another comp, or rework my existing comp in that time; I'd get a lot more done that way. For the record, using premade brushes is standard practice out in the real world... the one with real clients and real deadlines. I COULD take my own photography, but I might have to use stock imagery for the price, or the client may actually want someone who focuses on photography full-time and have more cash to spend. If your design is a series of brush splodges, then I might understand the point, but the brushes are there for textures on backgrounds or to add detail to areas where your design could use weight or any number of small jobs. I've worked for clients including GM, Coors Light, Sprite, FOX, and many many others - Not to boast, of course, only to show you that this isn't just the opinion of someone who's only designed a blog or judges everything, but creates very little.
- zero_bit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Everyone in this comment reel who says "real designers" should not use stock photography, clip art or stock brushes need to go ahead and delete their pirated version of Photoshop and not share their opinions any more. It's a good thing not everyone shares your opinions or places like Hemera.com would go out of business and photographers everywhere would be sad.
Desktop publishers (and, as a result, web designers) are NOT photographers or vector artists. Jack of all trades, and all that. - tuartboy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10@cacoe
How to be a graphic designer without losing the bottom of your shoe? - theyallsaypete, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9so much for grammar..... but you all get the point.
- BonhamsGhost, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Custom brushes are one of the most powerful and useful tools in Photoshop. Anyone who thinks brushes are a "cheat" or not original doesn't do digital painting. Go ask the guys on conceptart.org if custom brushes are useful.....
I'd rather make my own then use these though. Grab a piece of bristol and some dry or wet media, go to town and scan that ***** in. Then it's all about messing with the custom brush options until you get the effects you're looking for. - Switch22, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11I'm surprised 22Pixels didn't make it into the list.
This has got like 158 brush sets, http://www.22pixels.com/flock.php - sachmanb, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Great brushes that can be used most easily in grundge yah, but if you use a color overlay and get creative with your layers you can use these intricate patterns in synthesis to create all sorts of things.
A lot about art is how you utilize what you have, and who can say no to free? Not I! - krugzilla, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I agree with you. I have been a designer for 15 years and these resources have made it possible to improve the quality of my designs and many times you would never be able to tell I used them. When you are under a deadline you don't always have time to create your own brushes or even take your own photos. In fact, every designer I have worked with in the industry has used free resources, some more successfully than others/
- ephemerae, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6"If I have seen farther it is because I stood on the shoulders of giants" - applies just as much to art as science.
- superBadGirl, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6@cacoe
"I would reject such a project. Designer's ethics."
Must be nice to be both self-employed AND independently wealthy.
"I'd look into a book titled "How to be a graphic designer without losing your sole"."
What, I am going to feel so bad about my job I will throw up last night's fish?
Use the tools you need for the job, get the job done for the client. That's all it's about. There's no need to reinvent the wheel, just as there's no need to lift a whole design verbatim from someone else. - k3ymaster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I agree with Theyallsaypete, the client doesn't care if you use stock or your own photos, much less if you use pre-made brushes. Most of the time the client doesn't know what a brush is!!!. So the important thing is the result, not the process, at least for the client.
- vbrtrmn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Agreed!
Does a painter cheat, when he buys brushes from a store, instead of making his own?
I guess you would first need to find a painter who makes his own brushes .. I'm sure there are a few out there... somewhere. - k3ymaster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Yes, that's what I said in other post, what happens during the process only matters to the artist, if the artist feels using only presets is "unethical" then that's his choice.
- grubwort, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4As a client I would reject Cacoe's response to my RFP on the grounds of its bad spelling and grammar.
Maybe you should start using third party tools, like a dictionary. Or a third grade education. - Digisphere, on 10/12/2007, -6/+9Making your own graphics is way cooler than clicking a bunch of preset brushes together
- markdr123, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Where's the link to 'Typographic Grunge Brushes'?
*Panics* - soogy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@joenewbreed
deviantART does have a lot of brushes, but most of them have these stupid licenses where they ask you to contact them (the authors) before you use their brushes for anything.
Now, this also leads me to wonder what kind of licensing the brushes in this article have.
@shadow503
While that may be his site, he's actually providing a good service for free. Doesn't seem to be like most of our usual comment spam. - markdr123, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Ah, found it.
http://getbrushes.com/photoshop/grunge/jenn-bs-typographic-grunge-brushes.php - championchap, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7Not EVERY designer uses Photoshop.
I'm all about Painter, Flash and Illustrator. - k3ymaster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It all depends on how you use them. Constructing a whole design made of preset brushes, stock, default brushes, downloaded actions, ect, would be stupid. Using some of this things to enhance a project isn't a bad thing. The important point is to be creative, never using the tools to dictate what your idea is, but only to enhance it.
- GaffleSnipe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Why all the arguing? How many clients even know what a photoshop brush is? I've never ran into one. We're giving our clients a little too much credit here. Most of the time I find myself dealing with people who can't even get me a word file with description text. Most of the time it either "I like it!" or "Lets try something different." Never "Man that's neat, did you create all of those designs yourself?" That would be insulting your artist in a way wouldn't it?
- Sabin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4In design the process doesn't matter, only the result.
- GaffleSnipe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2They allow you to create prefab designs with a single click, and some of the designs are really intricate. If you've never used a brush before, I suggest trying it.
You can also make your own and save them. Handy for little designs you use on a regular basis. So for the most part, it's a time saver. I think we can all agree on that. - keepclear, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2You would need to check with the site you're getting the brush from, some require credit others are CC etc.
- reddevil3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'm sort of an amateur when it comes to using Photoshop/Gimp so I was wondering if anybody has any Gimp brushes. I know there's a method to convert Photoshop brushes to Gimp but are there any direct downloads?
- thesixthdesign, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I only really like the first one.
- thesixthdesign, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1That's true, but I personally think the "how to use it" skill comes naturally with experience. I personally feel that what takes real talent is actually making the brushes, making all the textures, and taking all the photos by yourself and creating original ideas. Sure, you could go out and take a picture by yourself, but I'm sure someone who actually has the profession in photography could take much better photos than someone who does not have the profession. Sure, you could perfect that rusty brush and make it look like a free downloadable brush, but that free downloadable brush was someone else's idea, and it originally came from their mind. I think some people are better at creating resources than utilizing them and vice versa. I personally find the creator of http://www.hybrid-genesis.net really talented. I personally don't find her website layout very nice, but her textures and brushes are most extraordinary, and I know very few people who have such talent, on the other hand, I know many people who can beautifully utilize downloadable resources. I'm not saying that people who don't make their own resources aren't talented -- I'm simply saying that in my own humble opinion, it probably takes a lot more talent to create those resources. =]
- bvlaar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Best Brushes I've ever seen!
- BonhamsGhost, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4@allsic
Fair enough. A good artist would still accomplish what he wants without them - hannahmar, on 06/11/2009, -5/+6Actually, while brushes may not be necessary, they sure help pick up an image where it looks drab. I can think of plenty of examples where brushes are useful in design. Web layouts, for one, may benefit from some of these nice brush sets.
- munkey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://i6.tinypic.com/4gyzths.jpg
- Quiplash, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Great stuff. Thanks for posting this!
- Calder0n, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Oh man, I just got PScs2 installed the other day. Thanks so much for sharing. ^_^
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm pretty new to PS and I don't understand why do I need those brushes?
- cuddleparty, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3i never really got into using brushes until a year or so ago. sadly, i was also one of delusional pricks who thought it was unethical. yeah, right. client's happy with nice design, i'm paid, therefore happy. win-win. if that's losing my soul, take it. should we not use other plugins? what about filters? i have plenty of fun working on my own personal projects for no financial gain. i think the premise of getting paid to do art could arguably be considered selling out or losing one's soul in the first place, so if one is wishing to become a graphic designer and not lose your soul, remember that it's all a matter of perception and just do whatever feels right to you without mounting a steed of great stature.
- oneSaint, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Try... and probably free too... but for 29 bucks, I got a ***** load of floral designs for some club flyers i did for V day....
- WheelchairDude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Awesome collection. Totally digg it.
- gnalakalaciath5, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"There's not much designing going on if that's the case. More like a digital collage-ist..."
well, collage is a type of art, isn't it? - Diggingspoon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1>>Real designers make their own brushes.
Does that apply to real life painting too? Real designers check their ego and the door and waste less time on things other people could do for them just as well, leaving more time to be creative - fuzzboxer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1That particular site is back up now.
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