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- gcnaddict, on 10/12/2007, -2/+32"Is the new level of designs going to put designers out of work?"
No because the designs can only be used on personal or non-profit websites. All of the commercial websites still need their own template designs/ers. - Arrakistor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+25I give a crap. There is a big difference. You could find out that a component is copyrighted, or that the code sucks or is dirty and non-compliant AFTER you pay for it. And of course, you can't get your money back. Free is always more fun, it allows you more... freedom to play around with ideas rather than getting tagged $20 to play with a different look.
- Kazenodeku, on 10/12/2007, -4/+24Would you not digg your own story just because you wrote it?
If it's a good story/link, who the hell cares if it's theirs. Why should some third party have to be the one to submit the link? - wildleaf, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19This site is just a minor view into what Open Web Design is all about. Check out pages like http://www.oswd.org/ and http://www.openwebdesign.org/ to see where this really comes from. Nautical (the creator of this page and the templates many people enjoy) is a great contributor to the community, but there are others that work hard to provide templates for free use. Enjoy!
- ifonly, on 10/12/2007, -11/+24Some css based ones:
http://www.zymic.com/show_templates.php?id=1 - RyanMarcus, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17Bah. Generic themes, been there, done that... This is not going to kill designers anytime soon.
- squenix1221, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14ive always just used http://www.oswd.org
- shortkid422, on 10/12/2007, -6/+18nvm, mod down (or up)
- gavintlgold, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13I don't think it's going to put designers out of work, because eventually people will get sick of seeing the same templates over and over again, and original websites will be more interesting.
I do like the idea, for people who aren't good at designing. It works, but it won't kill the design business (just like open source doesn't).....yet. - nickm, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12execpt the main site "Copyright 2006 opensourcetemplates.org"
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Here is a more complete directory of Open Source web templates. Most are even better, and yes it contain the Nautica designs as well.
http://www.openwebdesign.org/most_popular.phtml - seventoes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9I got a better one. http://www.famfamfam.com
Check out the silk icon set, i belive there is 1000 16x16 icons, all free. - TheNik, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Open Web Design is from the original programmer of OSWD. They got in a huge fight and out sprung both sites.
In my opinion, OSWD is worse than it was before. I hate the ugly layout and the system is all out of whack. PLUS, OWD gets more of the good designs. - UGM2099, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Good design is created for the specific needs of the client and audience so templates, even very nicely designed ones, will never replace a good web designer.
- frontlines, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10"Is the new level of designs going to put designers out of work?"
That's one of the most insane things I've heard...and I listen to public radio. Of course it won't. Your average person doesn't even know how to check their email without destroying their computer, let alone know what to do with these templates. Microsoft Word comes with approximately 5 billion templates, and it hasn't put editors, copywriters, or novelists out of work. *SIGH*
Let's think before we ask, people... :) - zeeneo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7"Is the new level of designs going to put designers out of work"
No, because companies want their web site design to be based around their logo design. I'd imagine web designers will borrow ideas from these designs - which isn't a bad thing. - chudpi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"Is the new level of designs going to put designers out of work?"
Probably not. At least not the creative ones.
Just as in economics recessions weed out weak enterprises, innovation and automation will weed out those who do nothing more than copy. Innovative designers will come up with the next level of design to gain a competitive edge above automation thus assuring continued progress.
Necessity is the mother of all invention.
The tapestry remains beautiful. - Chozabu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I dont see what licence the Zymic templates are under...
- FBMGriever, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Agreed. This definitely isn't going to put designers out of work. However, these templates are far from generic... I've seen FAR worse free templates. Infact, these are very good.
- GreenLantern33, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10They are all pretty good, and the fact that they are free and open source makes them even better. Thanks!
- Fimus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Who do you think gets those $15-20? Designers. Hence the "putting designers out of work" joke.
- actionscripted, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7I support that site and use it every-so-often for inspiration.
Designers will never be out jobs -- otherwise, who's going to make the templates?
Digg just for the OSWD link. :) - streetstealth, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Yes, the "new level of designs is going to put designers out of work."
Because, as we well know, all anyone will ever need are these templates, as they all automatically tailor themselves to any conceivable need without any human input or tweaking. We'll never need the insight of designers again, because, with templates like these, who needs insight? Look at sites like UX Magazine --- think of all the money they could have saved if they'd fired their designers and just used templates from OpenSourceTemplates!
And did you see their _level_? Amazing! - ginty, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4lol – Exactly. I was like open source on coldfusion, wtf?
- q3ctf4, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Replace designers? Never. It is the design that follows the idea and not the other way around. Businesses and marketing groups will always tell designers what to do. I don't see them shopping around for templates in the near future, regardless if they cost $25 or nothing.
- pyrix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I find it ironic that they're all about "Open Source" templates, yet their site runs off of ColdFusion.
- wildleaf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I would venture to say that most of the really good designs are regularly posted to both sites. I tend to appreciate OSWD more because there are a higher percentage of high quality designs there. OWD tends to allow a lot more designs in and sometimes the aesthetic quality is less desirable. Either way, all of these sites tend to be a great addition to beautifying the web in one way or another, generally by encouraging people to avoid built-in templates from applications like FrontPage.
However, I always think these open templates and designs are better used as a guidline on making your own site based on the designs shown. Often times too many people rely on these sites as places to get a complete design. It can be done - but I generally find that hybrids based on the designs come out the best.
This is coming from a long time user of the open web design community and a more recent contributor. Just my thoughts. Not even worth a penny. - ramd3z, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3What if the need calls for a template? A mom/pop shop says we like this design and we'll give you 200$ to do it...I'm not going to go out of my way. I believe in the right tool for the job.
- sembetu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4ndesign-studio has been around way longer than Nautica Has been published, and I was saying that the Open source version is a rip of the design. It is obvious. Doesn't matter to me, really, I was just pointing it out, because it was so apparent.
Sorry for being kind of a troll.
*bonks self on head, and returns to cave* - ReiToei, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5"Is the new level of designs going to put designers out of work?"
A designers job is to "design" something... not fill in a template downloaded from another site. - bsdeluxe, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8If this puts Dreamweaver Jockeys out of business, so be it. No real designer will be threatened by this.
No Digg. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6How do you know templica didnt use his design?
this guy submtted a "press relese" on that template 31 days ago
http://digg.com/users/Studio7/submitted - JasonKarla, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Quotage from Nautical:
"its a private beta dude.... not public
RTFA before you open your mouth and start bitching at people what an arse hole"
"I have requested monkey man remove my templates from OWD as soon as he can...
I am waiting for the removal."
"Man I dont get pissed off easily but some total total wanker just ported my 'beta' release of Nautica05 to wordpress and spent about an hour on it maybe..."
Quotage from the Community:
"It seems to me that Nauticals intentions with OWD and OSWD were not entirely honourable, I think it would be fair for the OS community to feel a little discruntled at (possibly) being used in this way."
"Well, Good Riddance Nautical... That's one less flamer on these forums I say. After all, let's face it, you are one hell of a flamer around these parts!"
"Weeee! He's gone. Everyone celebrate. :)"
Nuff said. - remiprev, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"Is the new level of designs going to put designers out of work?"
No, if you read the content: "We offer a wide range of free for personal use or non profit use website templates that are easy to modify and add content to."
Those are not for companies. They will still need to hire a professional web designer to design their website. Besides, if I'd own a company, I wouldn't want my company's website to look like 32 other ones that use the same *free* template. - jdelsman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3These templates aren't guaranteed to be user friendly, they aren't guaranteed to be search engine friendly or standards compliant, and they certainly aren't necessarily "good looking" or compatible with all web browsers. Plus, the fact that someone already mentioned that they are for non-profit or personal use. However, I think that those designers who design solely for non-profits are out of a bit of marketshare because of the popularity of this site.
- jordan314, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6>Is the new level of designs going to put designers out of work?
Yes. Wait, no. Of course not. - rzurad, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Wont put designers out of work because if it ever got to the point where that was a glooming possiblity, these templates would be used everywhere, thus creating a need for custom designers for companies that need originality, and not the same thing everyone else has.
- Popdmb, on 10/12/2007, -7/+10Why is this getting dugg down? Some of these templates are also really well done.
- xtmno3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Nice looking templates, but all other comments have stated the obvious already (oswd, and no it won't replace designers)
- veritech, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2What hurts me, is i can make those(the valid xhtml and css), but i can never quite get that polished look. I think it has a lot to do with my somewhat average photoshop skills.
- Opiate, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Open Source but for personal and non profit only? That's even more nazi than GPL. This won't kill designers since business sites are where the money is.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4NICE ADVERTISMENT STUDIO 7!!
- bugsy187, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This site's not going to put designers out of work. Every design on the web is "open source" and a template if you know what you're doing.
Besides, design work requires a lot of cusomization and specific DESIGN for a given project. Clients rarely approve a single design, much less the first design. - Deusiah, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Where the hell are the actual files used to create the images in their native editable format that would make these templates "open source"?
A REAL open source template would be one that supplied ALL the files and was made using open source software so that people don't have to pay to be able to edit their "open source" template's images. - phidong, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Popdmb, people on digg automatically assume that every link is spam. :(
- giveaphuk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2'put designers out of work'
so who makes these templates?? robots?
& also design is not just limited to the web.. have a look around, it is everywhere!! & i (as a designer) am forever busy! - burnt1ce85, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2To say this would make designers obsolete is like saying Open Source Programs will make programmers obsolete.
- jimb0, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4"Is the new level of designs going to put designers out of work?"
This person should work for a local news agency. Trying to fearmonger us into worrying about our jobs. Jeez. - Zzone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2-Is the new level of designs going to put designers out of work?-
And the award for most ignorant thought of the day goes to... - stevenstclair, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2No it wont put designers out of work because any REAL company wouldnt use a template.
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