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- inactive, on 04/10/2008, -0/+8To be honest, I don't think scientific facilities should be environmentally concious. If anything, factories and industries should clean up their own act.
- greentime, on 04/10/2008, -1/+7Hooray for Liverpool, that observatory is gorgeous!
- Salinesolucion, on 04/10/2008, -1/+6What does this comment have to do with this story on a piece of architecture?
- geekchic, on 04/10/2008, -0/+4Interesting building - but what I can't seem to find out is "what is it for observing?". It is a telescope for studying the night sky, or something else.
- ecomod, on 04/10/2008, -8/+12Here comes the corporate shills - if you have any sense, please bury these on-the-payroll-of-coal-companies global warming deniers!
- aaronmcdonald, on 04/10/2008, -0/+4So proud to be from Liverpool right now! This city is getting better and better!
- BlueSkyfish, on 04/10/2008, -1/+4No, Bush was in office for eight years and emissions are still going up.
- lschofield, on 04/10/2008, -0/+3Brilliant ideas - I hope this comes to fruition! Looks fantastic.
- anagoge, on 04/10/2008, -0/+2I'm from Liverpool too. Nice to know I'm not the only one. Anyone else?
- Dysarthria, on 04/10/2008, -1/+3Well, if you want to call him a liar, simply do so. I recognize some of these names and their associated opinions. No open-minded person who understands how science works would ever doubt the legitimacy of challenging/criticizing theories in order to prove them. I regret that in my lifetime the issue of climate change has been hijacked for political purposes, wholly embraced by some to condemn a particular lifestyle, industry or point of view.
Climate scientists routinely ignored published reports of so-called "Global Dimming" ostensibly from pollution for nearly a quarter-century, a now well-established theory that essentially rendered their previous models inaccurate. Now that this theory has been "blessed" , accepted, and publicized on the PBS program NOVA, it is now a legitimate adjunct as to why the climate modelers got it so wrong for so long.
The point is, we should not elevate proponents of the theory of global warming to the level of the papacy. They are fallible, and capable of human pettiness and political aspirations. Their ideas and methods should be scrutinized and challenged every step of the way. That's how good science works. Support this fundamental principle, and you are welcome to join the world of the free-thinking. - FallOfDay, on 04/10/2008, -0/+2This is the winning design. (won over a year ago! ;)
http://www.e-architect.co.uk/liverpool/liverpool_b ...
I think it's primarily intended as an observatory for the local bird sanctuary, rather than stargazing; too much light pollution in the area, anyway, for any really demanding astronomy. Though, it should give an excellent view of Liverpool Bay. - inactive, on 04/10/2008, -1/+3I will aim to inform the world that global warming is *****. When i was a kid i was told about how acid rain was gonna destroy the world. Then those goddamn dirtbags tought me about how a hole in the ozone layer would kill us all.
- bosssmiley, on 04/10/2008, -0/+2From the article: "While the plan has garnered lots of press for its sustainable and carbon-neutral qualities, it has yet to be seen exactly how its energy claims will be realized."
So, the would-be builders are only realy talking a good fight about the green-ness of this 'event accommodating bowl' and accompanying 'cultural beacon'. I see rather less about its actual purpose and a total gloss over who will actually be paying for it (10:1 it'll be the taxpayer).
Shame that such an interesting building has such guff written about it. - tdilworth, on 04/10/2008, -1/+2i don't not in Global warming and i haven't ever seen a penny from any coal/oil corp. some of us have values that don't involve jumping on the 'man made global warming' band wagon.
- tarquell, on 04/10/2008, -0/+1i know first year architects that could create better visuals of a project..
- aristan, on 04/14/2008, -0/+1Great Idea... but does the thing have to look like a bottle of sake? I mean... they say it's designed to look like a "myriad of things," yet it looks like it's a bottle of sake and a bowl. They totally sold Liverpool a picture of their coffee table after a party as a design.
- inactive, on 04/10/2008, -0/+1The steadily rising ocean that will quickly make it an underwater observatory.
Oh wait, I forgot.. global warming plateaued 10 years ago and we've actually been cooling off since. my bad! - Dorolicious, on 04/10/2008, -0/+1Awesome!
- anagoge, on 04/10/2008, -0/+1Perhaps I'm biased because I'm from Liverpool myself, but the city is coming on huge leaps and bounds over the last few years. The amount of regeneration in the city centre is amazing. It's being redeveloped from the ground up. One of my favourite new features about Liverpool would have to be the ACC (Arena Convention Centre) on the Albert Dock. It looks stunning inside and out and "It is also one of the most sustainable venues in Europe - designed to produce half the CO2 emissions it would without any environmentally-friendly measures."
If you get a chance, go have a look at it. - inactive, on 04/10/2008, -0/+1But.. global warming is a hoax.. didn't you get the memo?
- Threlly1, on 04/10/2008, -0/+1The enormous abundance of wildlife in the Mersey Estuary
- inactive, on 04/10/2008, -0/+1totally. The lighting is all wrong.. shadows are facing towards the sun.. I don't get it.
- BlueSkyfish, on 04/10/2008, -2/+2It's best to actually look stuff up yourself rather than trust some random guy on digg. Large companies know the popularity of digg and create user accounts to try to sway the public's opinion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming
http://www.howstuffworks.com/global-warming.htm
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/globalwarming. ...
http://www.ncar.ucar.edu/research/climate/ - Dysarthria, on 04/10/2008, -4/+4I dugg you up.
This is science, people - not religion. The only way a theory is proven is to try and disprove it. The worst thing we could do is accept a theory because its popular, and not because its been proven. - Y3T1, on 04/10/2008, -5/+5No, science should encourage debate, if not we end up back in the dark ages. And please, stop saying that anyone who is against global warming is an oil man etc... Thats just ***** rhetoric.
- thestrongrope, on 04/10/2008, -1/+1Love the woven look of the facade. Also the fact that they are actively looking NOT to harm the surrounding reserve. If only all new construction had such lofty goals. Good luck to them and I will be keeping an eye on this one.
- Salinesolucion, on 04/10/2008, -5/+2buried - what does Al Gore have to do with this story? You oil co shills are so annoying
- jlhoben, on 04/10/2008, -6/+1Is fascism greener than democracy?
- inactive, on 04/10/2008, -16/+9Al Gore says any scientist who disagrees with him on Global Warming is a kook, or a crook.
Guess he never met these guys
Dr. Edward Wegman--former chairman of the Committee on Applied and Theoretical Statistics of the National Academy of Sciences--demolishes the famous "hockey stick" graph that launched the global warming panic.
Dr. David Bromwich--president of the International Commission on Polar Meteorology--says "it's hard to see a global warming signal from the mainland of Antarctica right now."
Prof. Paul Reiter--Chief of Insects and Infectious Diseases at the famed Pasteur Institute--says "no major scientist with any long record in this field" accepts Al Gore's claim that global warming spreads mosquito-borne diseases.
Prof. Hendrik Tennekes--director of research, Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute--states "there exists no sound theoretical framework for climate predictability studies" used for global warming forecasts.
Dr. Christopher Landsea--past chairman of the American Meteorological Society's Committee on Tropical Meteorology and Tropical Cyclones--says "there are no known scientific studies that show a conclusive physical link between global warming and observed hurricane frequency and intensity."
Dr. Antonino Zichichi--one of the world's foremost physicists, former president of the European Physical Society, who discovered nuclear antimatter--calls global warming models "incoherent and invalid."
Dr. Zbigniew Jaworowski--world-renowned expert on the ancient ice cores used in climate research--says the U.N. "based its global-warming hypothesis on arbitrary assumptions and these assumptions, it is now clear, are false."
Prof. Tom V. Segalstad--head of the Geological Museum, University of Oslo--says "most leading geologists" know the U.N.'s views "of Earth processes are implausible."
Dr. Syun-Ichi Akasofu--founding director of the International Arctic Research Center, twice named one of the "1,000 Most Cited Scientists," says much "Arctic warming during the last half of the last century is due to natural change."
Dr. Claude Allegre--member, U.S. National Academy of Sciences and French Academy of Science, he was among the first to sound the alarm on the dangers of global warming. His view now: "The cause of this climate change is unknown."
Dr. Richard Lindzen--Professor of Meteorology at M.I.T., member, the National Research Council Board on Atmospheric Sciences and Climate, says global warming alarmists "are trumpeting catastrophes that couldn't happen even if the models were right."
Dr. Habibullo Abdussamatov--head of the space research laboratory of the Russian Academy of Science's Pulkovo Observatory and of the International Space Station's Astrometria project says "the common view that man's industrial activity is a deciding factor in global warming has emerged from a misinterpretation of cause and effect relations."
Dr. Richard Tol--Principal researcher at the Institute for Environmental Studies at Vrije Universiteit, and Adjunct Professor at the Center for Integrated Study of the Human Dimensions of Global Change, at Carnegie Mellon University, calls the most influential global warming report of all time "preposterous . . . alarmist and incompetent."
Dr. Sami Solanki--director and scientific member at the Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research in Germany, who argues that changes in the Sun's state, not human activity, may be the principal cause of global warming: "The sun has been at its strongest over the past 60 years and may now be affecting global temperatures."
Prof. Freeman Dyson--one of the world's most eminent physicists says the models used to justify global warming alarmism are "full of fudge factors" and "do not begin to describe the real world."
Dr. Eigils Friis-Christensen--director of the Danish National Space Centre, vice-president of the International Association of Geomagnetism and Aeronomy, who argues that changes in the Sun's behavior could account for most of the warming attributed by the UN to man-made CO2.
And many more, all in Lawrence Solomon's devastating new book, The Deniers



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