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- Henaro, on 10/12/2007, -20/+91What if you are black and can't afford IE?
Bush doesn't care about black people. - JC4P, on 10/12/2007, -2/+56Well that's what they get for killing all their web designers when they stumble upon govsecrets.txt
- ht70, on 10/12/2007, -7/+42Yes, a Bush appointee. It's Bush's fault that someone isn't keeping the Ginnae Mae site up to date. It's probably because he hates people who need loans to get houses. In other news, Bush is responsible for the weather at Denver over the last week. He didn't want those people to get home from Christmas.
- DivineDart, on 10/12/2007, -5/+38Actually It was quite funny
- Luftwaffle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+28Some gov. sys admin is going to go "WTF?" when he sees the logs for this server.
- radicaldementia, on 10/12/2007, -0/+26take a look at the source code:
"var tit = document.layers[*****[i]];"
WTF? - masamunecyrus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22Just use this bookmarklet and it works in Firefox, as well.
javascript:void(IE4=true);void(ver4=true);alert("Buying vs. Renting Calculator enabled.");
The calculator works, they just disable it if you're using a browser that doesn't suck. I just told it that we're using IE4 and it works with FF, now. - whodatis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18that's some sexy javascript.....
function setbrowser() {
if (navigator.appVersion.charAt(0) == "***** & ass") {
then (navigator.appName.indexOf("boner") >= 0) {
sexytime! = true; - TheWorm, on 10/12/2007, -6/+23I thought it was working fine in Safari. But you have to cllick calculate. That's when it gives you the message. What garbage. Nobody has used netscape or internet explorer since then 90's.
- OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16Change your referrer to "Hey admin, it isn't the 1990s anymore!"
- jdh24, on 10/12/2007, -7/+21LOL government. I wonder how long it will take the bureaucracy to fix this problem?
- Petronski, on 10/12/2007, -4/+18As sarcasm, that's damn funny.
- Recuso, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13Adding to the WTF:
if (iFlag==false) { alert ('You are using '+bn+' version '+bv+'.nnGinnieWeb requires Netscape 6.2 or higher,nor Internet Explorer 5.5 or higher');
return false; }
You must be simultaneously using netscape 4.7 or lower or Netscape 6.2 or higher. - D3koy, on 10/12/2007, -8/+19look it is ok, as long as you know its a joke...Bush hates all people equally...
- thejadedmonkey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11@jdh24
"LOL government. I wonder how long it will take the bureaucracy to fix this problem?"
Well, I'm working on a website right now for my local township, and to get it done one of the locals is paying me out-of-pocket and then taking it to the board and saying "this is what we can get for xxx dollars, is everybody alright with that". I get paid, she's the one at risk, and all everyone wants is for the township to have a website.
so at that rate, nothing will happen, ever, unless someone puts their own neck on the line to fix the problem. - themastersb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8They have an ID10T problem
- NtroP, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8*****! Click calculate!
- inquis1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Here's what's going on:
* The site has browser detection code to switch between IE-specific/Netscape 4-specific (eww)/"Netscape 6" (i.e. Mozilla) specific code.
* This code was written in the IE4/Communicator/Netscape 6 era, and assumes that the only browsers are IE (which it checks for specifically) and Netscape - there are no negative checks.
* The Netscape 6 code should work nastily but OK with a modern browser - the problem is, it's set only to be enabled if the browser version is greater than 6.0. Because Firefox reports 2.0, all the detection checks fail because it thinks you're giving it Netscape 2, and hence all those if statements drop through to that message box.
* All validation appears to be done in Javascript. Ugh. With spelling errors causing script errors too.
* Humourously, there is some login code tacked on the end that checks if your browser version is lower than 6 or your IE version lower than 5.5, and dumps you out if negative. Just as dumb, and negates all that document.layers coding completely.
Yes, this is dumb, but not malicious dumb. It's just ancient web code written by idiots. - drouk1556, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6avant browser is just a glorified ie plugin, and the site works with ie...we all know that. read the description one more time.
- Raider007, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7works fine with opera on my end...
and yes, i'm hitting calculate... - mediaphile, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5No Child Left Behind my ass.
- NtroP, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Click "calculate"!
The page displays fine in all browsers. You just can't *USE* it for anything unless you use a "lower" form of browser - like pre-Netscape 4.7 or IE. - MasterChi, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8"Just use this bookmarklet and it works in Firefox, as well."
Or just get a browser that works, Opera, and you won't have to worry about workarounds to get things to work. Proof and I changed the numbers incase there was a change in the statement of "it just won't calculate if you don't use IE or some crazy hack in Firefox"
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/8170/imagemr1.jpg - TiMMY8765, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Works on wii opera. and yes, I did click calculate!
- OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Press the calculate button!
- MasterChi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Um, I clicked calculate and then I entered new numbers and hit Recalculate. I see its interesting though that someone above says it works with Firefox with a suggestion of getting an extension and they get dugg up and yet when i say it works with Opera and give a suggestion of getting Opera i get dugg down?
Get Opera and try it and then call me wrong or right, otherwise shut up. Thanks. - tkcom, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I heard they have 486 on the Hubble.
- Rivetgeek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3um check this from the source:
if (iFlag==false) { alert ('You are using '+bn+' version '+bv+'.nnGinnieWeb requires Netscape 6.2 or higher,nor Internet Explorer 5.5 or higher');
return false; }
So part breaks with old version and part breaks with new version. way to go uncie sam. - tdyer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3It appears they are also behind in teaching you how to spell.
- LouCypher, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"Click here to send Ginnie Mae a suggestion."
http://www.ginniemae.gov/suggest/submit.asp?Section=Contact
Right - D3koy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Anyone else check out the "Kid Zone"
http://www.ginniemae.gov/homezone/index.html - ReadMeTXT, on 10/12/2007, -6/+8lol usa
- mancat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3From the source:
var ***** = new Array(); // An array for the title objects
So "*****" is an abbreviation of titles? I don't see any any other obscene objects. - sakabako, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Check out this gem in the JavaScript:
var ***** = new Array(); // An array for the title objects
All the scripting looks like it's from 1996, and it probably wasn't great then. - Eyeooga, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3funny, i can't use either firefox 2 or safari. Are you actually hitting the calculate button?
- codyman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Maybe the government is still fighting Y2K or has a group "studying" the issue by making a committee to "study" the "study"... it really wouldn't surprise me considering how everything government related takes 10x longer than it should
- ScienceDoc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Welcome to government IT. Most were people in other jobs with nothing to do or no promotion potential. So around Y2K, they made them all IT specialists and gave them a 25% raise. Then they have to have super-duper security for even the most-trivial websites. The taxpayers will be paying for this for decades.
- NtroP, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Click "Calculate"!
Geez! You probably are just like the person that performed the QA on this site.
"Looks Fine"
"Yeah, but does it work?"
"OH, I didn't check that..." - MasterChi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/8170/imagemr1.jpg
It works with Opera. :) - Eyeooga, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4yes, you are missing something. id10t
- xGrape, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3well it doesnt work in firefox on my mac...
- bleedingcyan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2i think the companies who put out proprietary pages that only certain browsers can handle is *****, in my opinion, if they push you toward using one browser, they should be held accountable for this. i remember having to contact comcast when they installed my cable modem at my current residence. they left the disk to run the self installation, which wouldn't run in safari, or firefox, or any other browser i had installed on my osx machine. they wrote the software to use ONLY IE links. *****!.. i wish i could sue!
- willpall, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3click [CALCULATE]. It won't work. See comment above written by NtroP (several times)
- rbanffy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2OK. I will help them:
Line 474 reads: else ns = ture; - Blade1384, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"LOL government. I wonder how long it will take the bureaucracy to fix this problem?"
I know someone who works for Ginnie Mae, showed him the problem. He laughed really hard and said that he would contact the webmaster. We'll see if it gets fixed... - mitrovarr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Man, I hate webpages that are designed to work with one (or a few) browsers and refuse to even try to render with anything else. When I first started using Firefox, all kinds of sites would throw up a "You must use IE or Netscape ver. X" message. Of course, when I spoofed my browser type and version most of them worked perfectly.
If you must tell users what browsers to use, blacklist browsers known to fail. Someone using a non-functional browser is either using an old version of IE or Netscape, or something exotic; the old versions are easy enough to catch with a filter, and the people using exotic browsers know what they're doing and will understand if the page doesn't load right. There are a million different browsers right now, and by whitelisting you'll always be cutting off some that work, which pisses their uses off immensely. I know that when I used to get blocked for using Firefox, my respect for the site immediately diminished, and it diminished much more if the message said only IE was supported. - diggmeup, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1what an useful site
- sremick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1And that helps non-Windows users how?
- anoriega, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Works fine (yes even calculating) and looks good in Opera 9.1 for me.
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