What is Digg?37 Comments
- Dested, on 10/12/2007, -4/+56http://www.duggmirror.com
Why isnt this included in the digg layout somewhere? Seem's a bit foolish to post this every time... - shortkid422, on 10/12/2007, -3/+32@tac0
You're just jealous you have no idea how to use CSS properly. - MrNonchalant, on 10/12/2007, -0/+22Wow. That plain text error message _is_ liquid.
- estvir, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16Well, I use a greasemonkey script so I have a little Duggmirror icon next to the title of all stories. It also has an icon for Coral and Google Cache.
http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/1807 - DaveMode, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9He should have spent less time worrying about layout, and more time finding a better host. 35 diggs and 3 minutes on the front page and it's down already.
- JimmyLin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7There's a better way to make a fluid layout, and that's without absolute positioning. When I started with CSS, absolute positioning seemed the easiest way to make layouts, however when it comes to expanding content, it becomes a huge ordeal.
I made a series of rough layouts, some which are liquid layouts. Those who have a strong grasp of CSS can just take a look directly at my code, since I did not write any tutorials for how to do it or explain why it works. It also works cross-browser. Go here: http://jimmylin.info/templates.html - tuxidomasx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7@dested
cosign.
i need to use the duggmirror for half the links i click on here. - hifiDesign, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"by people who remember the days of tables"
As if to say they're over? I'm forced to work with tables daily, so am I some geezer at 26? Whippersnappers, I tell ya...
And it would be more appropriate to say that it's getting overblown by the people who DON'T remember the days of tables, but even that would be an erroneous statement.
As far as CSS goes — liquid, fixed, it's all preference at this point really. Devices aren't unified enough yet to assign what's right or wrong (nor will they ever be). Pros and cons exist for everything, it's really all about your target audience. At this point it's wise to be well-versed in everything but increasingly hard. - SVPirate, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Why are you giving someone a hard time for posting a useful article? I would bet a good few people who read digg.com are always looking for useful 'how-tos' on this stuff. Stop being narrow minded, just becuase you know everything doesn't mean eveyone else does.
Also I dunno how you work out that CSS requires XHTML, I've been using it in HTML for years... - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Bleh.. not a fan of percentages. I think the whole liquid layout thing is overblown by people who remember the days of tables.
- xtr3m, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5I already proposed that in other thread.
- tomi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Now do you see why I posted that story (I submitted the story ardellin replied with)? No matter what, people are going to digg down the full duggmirror link.
Yes, I know the short link won't work if you don't allow referrers, but either way, you will (usually) be dugg down.
*shrug* Feel free to digg me down, but it's true if you haven't noticed. - Modulo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3how is it that just because duggmirror can automatically detect the url that that has to be a rule that it HAS to automatically detect the url. I find that shallow and pedantic. just like this meatloaf.
- cresswga, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1middle click works for me.
If you want to click drag I guess you will just have to find the link yourself in the Duggmirror index - MrBrightside, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Ive always used tables to build websites, but only because I didnt have the time to lean css fully. Now ive kind got the hang of css, and have found it a better way to control how your site looks, plus keeps with standards.
If only all the browsers would work together to display css websites in the same way - its so annoying when you have deisgned you site to look great in Firefox only to find it looks crap in IE or Netscape! - bairy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Do diggers suck at CSS/XHTML so bad?"
I do. It's handy to have these simple how-tos around, just to glance over during a lunch break.
If you don't like it, scroll past it. - Dylan16807, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What if I want to middle click or drag into a new tab? Oops, no referrer.
- Bisqwit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The site seems to be liquidified.
- jhaydon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@blackmurtagh
Yes - the link is still down for everyone, and will probably stay down for a while (that's just what digg does).
http://duggmirror.com/design/Create_a_simple_liquid_layout/
Use the above link until it comes back online. - antdude, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Or http://duggmirror.com/design/Create_a_simple_liquid_layout/ if Web browser referrer is disabled/blocked. ;)
- ardellin, on 10/12/2007, -9/+9http://digg.com/tech_news/Stop_posting_full_DuggMirror_links_it_can_detect_the_referrer
booyah - SenyWD, on 02/24/2009, -0/+0Download free standards compliant CSS layouts: http://www.free-css-layouts.com
- fquednau, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2@Jimmylin
"cross-browser": Need to work with IE 6.0 here at my client's side. Some of the templates don't work very well in there. Just an info. - tybris, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Does it never stop? Do diggers suck at CSS/XHTML so bad? You really shouldn't need a tutorial like this. If you do need this...what will happen when you run into your first browser incompatibility? Just draw something completely outrageous in photoshop/photopaint, slice it up and don't stop trying until it's a smooth, flexible, maintainable, browser-compatible, standards-compliant CSS/XHTML layout. That's how you learn CSS/XHTML. (note that I don't call it CSS, they're really not independent)
I have yet to see one article about vertically centered layouts on digg (which actually IS kind of nasty/interesting). - trogdoor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Everyone knows about duggmirror, and there is a little link in the bottom right of peoples comments that looks like this : [reply]
http://digg.com/design/Create_a_simple_liquid_layout?creplyto=3449384#creplyform
Use the above link until you find it. - stockjones, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0CSS is great but its not the end all solution yet. I mean there are endless, and I mean endelss articles dicsussing the proper way to make a cross compatible css layout without using tables. Most of these are limited.
Also most CSS layouts are very simple, mostly blog based layouts. A lot of companies will still utilize tables for a large portion of their layout because it works regardless of the browser and for liquid layouts, CSS is very complicated to work with unless you keep the layout simple, (the common 1, two or 3 column layout thing). CSS is easier to use if your site is fixed width. Hate to say it, but there are still many merits to using tables. I usually find sites that are a hybrid mix of css and tables. - buss, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2My guess is that the Digg (or the Duggmirror) crew think that if people had easy access to duggmirror, their servers would get buried as well.
- CerebroJD, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3Pwnd already. Damn.
- Hoovooloo, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2Not all of us pass referring URL's, so why is this guy getting dugg down for helping those of us who don't like passing on our previous site (privacy, anyone)?
- blackmurtagh, on 10/12/2007, -6/+0cheers
- spiker611, on 10/12/2007, -13/+6http://duggmirror.com/design/Create_a_simple_liquid_layout/
hoorah - ardellin, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1crap... the link above doesn't work. you get the idea, though. there is no need to post the entire url. a link to http://www.duggmirror.com will work just as well. that, and the fact that the first comment on the page already has a mirror link is probably why you are getting dugg down.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1wrong thread.
- Mudcrutch, on 10/12/2007, -10/+2John Oxton looks like an ox.
- blackmurtagh, on 10/12/2007, -9/+0is the link down for anyone else?
- gmweezel, on 10/12/2007, -13/+3Download the dugg mirror extension and stop griping.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -130/+3CSS IS GAY
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