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- SnottsdaleAz, on 10/12/2007, -21/+311You know a great way to leave a tip? On the table!
Having to unfold a tip when you're busy waiting tables is irritating.
It doesn't have to be cute, it just has to be big. - thomasknowland, on 10/12/2007, -13/+134@alien
You think you're having a ***** up day, try waiting on ***** who don't tip all day for three bucks an hour...plus tips. - dvsbastard, on 10/12/2007, -9/+75I believe a tip should be a reward (or a bonus) for a job well done, and NOT be a part of staple income...
In Australia, although waiters don't get paid massive incomes, they still don't have a complete income reliance on tips and can still make a reasonable living without them - however, a friendly, efficient and helpful waiter stands to make a lot more money.
This is how this system should be... - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -23/+83"Great ways to leave a tip? Are you stupid? I'm already disgruntled about the fact that I have to shell out more cash to tip some guy for doing something that he's supposed to do anyways"
While I think this is a retarded Idea as well I'd like to make it known that the way I feel about this article is exactly how I feel about your attitude towards people who wait tables for a living. You've obviously never been a server or known a server who's had to rely off of the tip that you so aptly feel reluctant to give. - DarkCheerio, on 10/12/2007, -14/+72"Great ways to leave a tip? Are you stupid? I'm already disgruntled about the fact that I have to shell out more cash to tip some guy for doing something that he's supposed to do anyways."
What they're supposed to do? What they're supposed to do is treat you well so that you will tip them well. Where I live servers make 2.13 an hour. My paycheck is usually around 6 bucks working full time.
If you don't want to tip, don't go to a restaurant. - slapded, on 10/12/2007, -6/+57if i get bad serrvice can you teach me how to fold a penny into a middle finger?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+45"If there was no such thing as tipping then you would see about a 15% price hike"
And it'd really be better for everyone. No scumbags under-tipping you, no dirty looks from stuck up friends who think 25% is a low tip.
I had one of these conversations a while ago, and got to thinking later.... Waiter gets tipped, but the cook doesn't. If I say"no pickles", and get them anyway.....do I decrease the tip or not? I have no way of knowing who messed up unless i review security tapes. - plncrzy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+38Back and forth between the "get a real job" and "if you don't tip you're an *****" comments...
To all you "get a real job" types -- if everyone "got a real job" then who would be left to bring you your wine and lobster tail, you pretentious prick?
...and to the rest of you "if you don't tip you're an *****" folks -- if you don't do a good job, don't expect a tip. It's not de-facto. It's called a "gratuity" for a reason. ...and before you jump down my neck -- I waited tables for 4 years in different places ranging from Applebee's to a very nice steak house. I've been there.
The truth is -- tipping is customary in most civilized countries as a social practice. I have no problem tipping, in fact I usually tip fairly generously. I usually leave a minimum of 15%, assuming the service and food and everything was good. If something was terribly bad, I try to weigh how it affected my overall experience. If my experience was very pleasant I tip 20%-30%. If the staff and the food and the entire experience was astounding, I've been known to tip 50-60%.
However, food service folks have started to take an attitude that they EXPECT tips as a RULE, and people -- it's not. Your JOB is to serve the food and whatever else you HAVE to do. For that, you get paid a wage. It might not be high, but you get paid to do a JOB. Beyond that, if you WANT to EARN a tip, then a smile and polite, attentive service is where it starts. If you're one of those people who snarls and is rude and just does the bare minimum, expect the same back from me when I leave. It's a SERVICE job, people. Bad service = bad returns.
More on-topic -- people often think they're being "cute" with these sorts of tactics, but understand that it comes across as a bit condescending and I can assure you the person you're tipping won't find it cute or funny. - SpectralSounds, on 10/12/2007, -4/+39That waitress already has 100 reasons why she doesnt want to give you her number.
- 2000, on 10/12/2007, -7/+40@TheReport
Calm down, Mr. Pink. - jakhtar, on 10/12/2007, -15/+47Why tip someone for a job I'm capable of doing myself? I can deliver food. I can drive a taxi. I can and do cut my own hair. I did, however, tip my urologist. Because I am unable to pulverize my own kidney stones.
- DarkCheerio, on 10/12/2007, -5/+36@Tastypastry: It's not that it's all we get, it's that it's our version of wages. If there was no such thing as tipping then you would see about a 15% price hike in what you pay for food so that the restaurant could afford to pay their servers.
- Splizxer, on 10/12/2007, -5/+35Lick the bill and stick it to her ass is probably the best.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+31I still don't understand the "tips" thing. Why don't they just pay servers the normal pay? I always give a nice tip, but I'd much rather leave a tip when I had excellent service instead of being obligated to do so.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+255 great ways to not get that cute waitress's number
- dvsbastard, on 10/12/2007, -4/+25I'd love to try putting the spider down the thong of a stripper at my local nudie bar...
- aussieNickuss, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17dvsbastard
I think that there is more of a problem with the industrial system in the US that makes the employees rely on tips. Like in AUS, the wages should be sufficient for the staff.
Also, can you imagine trying to make this origami out of our plastic tender!?! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -24/+37Why work for $3/hour? Go get a job that pays well enough so the customers don't have to pay you twice? That $3/hour comes out of what we pay to eat, and we have to pay you directly too?
That makes the job of a restaurant owner pretty easy.. The customers pay the workers and he keeps all the money from the food.. - EmperorAwesome, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13Having been a server, I tip well every time, but I still hate it. I don't know how automatic tipping came to be, tips should only be for exceptional service. The restaurant management shouldn't be such a ***** pay provider and tax tips they assume the wait staff is getting. I'm not gonna be the one to start a no-tipping revolution, but I wish there was some way to stop the complacency of restaurant managers without hurting the servers.
- MDrake, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17If you really like pissing people off, do this!
- blapierre, on 10/12/2007, -18/+30@snottsdaleAZ
It's irritating to get money? Tell me where you work at and I'll be sure to not irritate you with a tip when I leave. - antoniojvr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Cute, but whatever happened to earning tips? I hate this whole "mandatory tip" mentality.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Long time bartender chiming in here... Don't do it. If you have a crush on the bar maid or waitress then perhaps a tip AND an origami-spider.
- Myztry, on 10/12/2007, -5/+16In Australia, the waiters gets a reasonable wage. Tipping is completely optional and is done via a tipping jar at the counter. Change and rewards go in there. That is divied between the waiters at the end of the shift. And any half assed waiter(ess) gets shown the front door, as they don't attract tipping or repeat customers.
Paying pathetic wages and the very idea of having a waiter staring at me desperately hoping to get enough money to live off sickens me. It may be ingrained into American culture, but there are better cultures in this world ! - InsideTheAsylum, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10You can dump the pennies into a glass of water, place a coaster to cover the top of the glass and then flip the glass and coaster and place it on the table. If you do it fast enough, you'll have the cup sitting upside down on the coaster. After that, you quickly yank the coaster out and leave the glass sitting upside down on the table. It's annoying to clean up. I've never had anyone do service bad enough to deserve that, but it's an option I have :p
- dvsbastard, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11aussieNickuss
"I think that there is more of a problem with the industrial system in the US that makes the employees rely on tips. Like in AUS, the wages should be sufficient for the staff."
That is very true, however, with our recent IR reforms I wouldn't be surprised if Australian restaurants follow suit (I sure as hell hope not).
"Also, can you imagine trying to make this origami out of our plastic tender!?!"
That was the first thing that came to my mind! It is hard enough placing our plastic craptastic notes into a wallet, without them flying all over the place, let alone folding them into something creative! :) - elnerdo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Anybody got instructions for the accordian?
- mark1372, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12Great for you, bad for the server.
- Tenoq, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Kinda redundant here in Aus. Waiting staff get at least $12/h, even at a cheap restaurant. Tips are reserved purely for excellent service or a particularly good meal. Even then, 10% would be a fair tip. I have no doubt food is significantly cheaper in the US though, so I guess it's six of one, half-a-dozen of the other. :P
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8people who also take the time to write a note saying how they enjoyed your service is a nice touch, with cash under it
- sbenskin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7the only reason you are paid 3 "bucks" plus tips, is that years ago, employers paid people a decent wage. When people started tipping, the jobs were changed to a lower paid rate, because the employer would be able to say "you get paid tips on top".
If no-one ever tipped, then less people would work for that low pay rate, and so employers would be forced to raise the pay rate to attract employees
tipping should be to indicate that a job was done particularly well, not mandatory
if you haven't guessed, i'm from england, where tipping works correctly. Let the negative digging begin - LordLucless, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Also note, UK restaurants actually pay their serving staff real wages, not half-a-wage and hope that someone tips.
- dvsbastard, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Tipping is almost compulsory in some places, which is ridiculous.
The tipping system should be about promoting and rewarding good customer service... A tip should not be expected... It should be earned.
That said, it should not be about ensuring someone gets paid, and if service is ordinary, this doesn't mean that the waiter should only receive slave wages. They are still doing there job and they still deserve a respectful income - they are just not going beyond the call of duty... - Flamekebab, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I give tips when I think it's worth it.
Bad service, bad food, whatever, forget it.
I would probably do this kind of thing with my tip, except here in the UK I can't imagine I'd give a £5+ tip, being a student.
For those USians amongst you who don't know - generally speaking, the lowest denomination of note we have over here is £5 - nearly $10. - locojones, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6"The truth is -- tipping is customary in most civilized countries as a social practice."
You have it backwards. Not tipping appears to be the custom in most civilized countries. In fact, this whole notion of tipping as some sort of automatic response to service is a distinctly North America, and dare I say, American, custom. And while I usually disdain the use of Wikipedia as a source, in this instance, it seems to be a good starting point as an amalgam of information:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tip - vhold, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6So what we have here are a lot of people complaining about the way people give them gratuitous money.
That almost entirely sums up why fast food so utterly dominates the sit-down restaurant experience in America. - martin308, on 10/30/2007, -1/+7Tipping sounds really odd to me as no one does it here in NZ, I've had Americans + Canadians try and explain it to me before but it just sounds like an excuse to pay people ***** and double charge the customer for it. Why not just have a minimum wage?
- JonestownTea, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I personally thought this should have been labeled "5 great ways to fold a dollar bill before you stuff it in a G-String."
But maybe it's just me. - unlimitedorb, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7There are exactly 4 ways to leave a great tip on that page and not 5...That's false advertising.
Now I'm pissed... - 0x0000ff, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11Yeah, also from Aus. I've tipped a waiter about 3 times in my whole life, because the food was incredible and the service was excellent. This is what a tip is for.
People who expect tips don't stand to get much from me at all. - djjester, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Having a system where tipping is relied upon to subsidize below acceptable wages promotes these wages being kept so low. Countries with reasonable wages typically don't tip and as such wages are kept higher as tips aren't factored into employees pay.
In saying that I generally tip, although I am in a country where tipping isn't common place or relied upon. Businesses are increasingly donating tips to charity or putting them towards employee social programs. - LordLucless, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6'To all you "get a real job" types -- if everyone "got a real job" then who would be left to bring you your wine and lobster tail, you pretentious prick?'
If everyone got a real job, and nobody wanted to serve anymore, then the cost of hiring a waiter would go up, in order to attract people. To cover those increased prices, the cost of a meal would go up - which is fine anyway, since everyone now has a "real job" and can afford it. I don't like the American tipping system, but then, I'm not an American. I don't like the idea that there is this extra charge on my food, that isn't really explicitly nailed down, but is a social faux pas if I forget it. If I'm buying food and service, charge me the market price for said food and service. If I think either is exceptional, I may pay a gratuity. - gojcaj, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I used to make rings out of dollar bills in elementary school and sell them for profit. ahhhh the early years of hustling
- formatreinstall, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7I always have to remind myself that in the U.S. minimum wage doesn't apply to wait staff - that would drive me nuts if I lived there. Why even call it a minimum wage if waiters make $3 an hour?
Sales people make at least minimum wage, so that really isn't an accurate comparison (at least, I HOPE U.S. sales people get minimum wage - otherwise... wow... American economics would be even more f***ed up than I think it is).
And as for good service - do you tip at McDonald's? Would you tip your doctor if they treated you well? If it's all about rewarding good service and not what wage someone makes, shouldn't you tip your lawyer?
Tips today are an excuse for restaurant employers to pay a wage that wouldn't support someone living in the 70's, and these same employers have somehow convinced everyone that if you don't tip, you're a bad person. Instead of me supplementing a person's wage, why can't the employer pay them properly?
What would happen if no one tipped? Well, by what I read here no one would be able to make even a meager living as a waiter/waitress, so they would have to move on to other jobs to survive - which would deplete the hospitality workforce, and force employers to PAY WELL. Never gonna happen, but I still feel bad for anyone in the U.S. who has to work below minimum wage - that is so messed up. - TedTschopp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I can't believe that it doesn't have the Butterfly.
http://members.cox.net/crandall11/money/butterfly/
That site is actually better than this one. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6"Lick the bill and stick it to her ass is probably the best."
Man, you don't know where a dollar bill has been. But it's probably safer than licking the stripper directly.
"I was a waiter once and I found out quickly that if I act very nice and mannerly and work especially fast I would get 20% tips or more. If I were to just 'do my job' I would get around 15%. Therefore, every night I would work my ass off to get the higher tips."
I learned pretty quickly that if I work my ass off, I get a raise. That should be enough incentive for waiters too. - Just1nD, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6no offense dude, but $2.63/hr aint a wage.i get paid to SELL the food and up sell to increase checks. thats all i get PAID to do by my employer.
that said gratuity should be thrown out and waiters should receive an hourly wage like anyone else (determined by check average per person in any give restaurant). i've worked in food service for a while, and i've learned enough about people to stop doing it ASAP. capitalist America expecting everything handed to them with a ***** smile or all apologies. if i could only show people how well they do their job with gratuity. *****-a customer service people would be homeless.
so half-ass your job just enough to not get fired under the security of your more livable (and consistant) wage/salary, then come see me and intentionally grade how well i do my job to save yourself 5 or so dollars determining how well i can live. - chapium, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Doing favors for regular customers is common knowledge for bartenders. Its part of the training, so don't let it fool you. The favors are an investment for both the server and the business. Casinos are magnificently good at this practice as well.
- Scoresheet, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I have no idea at all why tipping seems to be an almost compulsory thing in America . It is starting to be this way in the UK. A tip should be an entirely voluntary act. I believe there are restaurants that add a "service charge" to their prices, which in my opinion is a disgusting way to do business.
- shinynew, on 10/12/2007, -10/+14@allens
Then don't go out. Its basically built into it, it is so ingrained into our society that it has no chance of leavening any time soon, learn to deal with it.
Dont do this ***** if its a busy day, it may be cute and all that *****, but it will not change anything unless they have the time to do anything but find the next table that needs something. On a slow day this would probably be very much appreciated, not nearly as much as a big tip, Don't be doing that ***** with one dollar bills. -
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