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- kingyubba, on 11/12/2007, -4/+28good designers borrow.
great designers steal. - jbarket, on 10/12/2007, -4/+23WYSIWYG sounds a lot sillier than widget, and I hear both quite a bit where I work.
- subxero37, on 10/12/2007, -12/+30Does anyone hate the word "widget" as much as I do? It sounds dumb, like you're not a professional in your field, when you say, "Oh, I used some new widgets to spice up our homepage..."
- TroubleInMind, on 10/12/2007, -6/+18C'mon. That's like saying you're not a real UI guy because you use prototype or (gasp) scriptaculous. Or you're not a real web developer cause you use Apache or .NET or Java, if you were a REAL programmer you'd write your own web server and programming language?
All that is today was built on what was yesterday. Every once in a while, on a rare magical day, somebody comes up with something new and shifts the paradigm. Tim Berners-Lee comes to mind. - kpeatt, on 10/12/2007, -8/+20Because great web design only resides on great web servers?
- iWasHere, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10I am pretty sure kpeatt was being sarcastic...
- BumRush, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12It's not a matter of knowing. What are you really building if you don't know what your doing? Creating crap most likely...... I understand 100% of what I use when doing web design, but if you don't rip off tons of code then your just wasting precious beach/golf/drinking/girl time.
Besides the FACT that the only way to get anywhere in science( in general ) is to climb up on everyone else shoulders.
Einstein put it best. - tempusrob, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10I'll get dugg down for this, but I don't care. I think the C++ libraries such as the STL are turning our industry into control+C, control+V developers...
A true developer should learn C++ and then build his own custom libraries.
Wait, what? - nodream, on 10/12/2007, -9/+17Really, if you call youself webdesigner, you should know 90% of this stuff, and a lot of other things that are actually a lot more relevant to day-to-day webdesign.
Lame - Mongoose, on 10/12/2007, -7/+13Anyone else find it ironic that all these "great" web design articles lately have died with less than 100 diggs and none of them get caught by mirrors?
- skymt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Tip: Masses of links will always be dugg down as spam, no matter how good they are. Write a sentence or two about each link, or just don't bother.
- danshields, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6You are a complete moron and disgrace for that comment. You are the reason why there are such crappy web sites out there. Back-end developers who think their the only ones that matter and there isn't a need for quality front-end professionals to create the actual site, its sad you think like this!
You have to think of it like a car. The software Engineers are the ones that create the engine and the Front-end developers are the ones that create the frame and body. Without quality professionals working on both sides you get a ***** product. Even if the engine is the greatest engineered ever if the frame, body and other components that connect to the engine are *****, the product wont meet the standards and sell.
Although we might not be programmers, we also might not want to be programmers. We have our place as do you and without each other you only get half the quality of the end product. - smhill, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6@banderbe
"Just don't dare call yourselves programmers, coders or anything else that suggests that you have the level of sophistication required by real software developers.
Sorry man, I hate to break it to you but the people who go into web development are the people who couldn't hack it in real software development."
You are being very hypocritical and way over-generalizing.
Yes many of the web designers out there are copy/paste/tweakers. But there are also many are very specialized and grasp concepts and practices that "programmers" will never understand. Many modern programmers are nothing more than degreed monkeys who may be able to write a binary search tree in x86, but are completely incapable of having an original thought and can only parrot what their CS prof spewed even though he has been out of the field for decades. There are ***** programers abound as well.
As far as web developers go, you cannot paint them all with the same brush. That is extremely ignorant. I am a senior dev at a pretty high end development firm. Our dev staff are simply some of the best software developers there are. (there is a pretty good chance you have read development books/manuals penned by some of the folks that work here). All of them are well beyond the average "programmer". Most switched to web development for a real challenge. When you do serious web development you work in many different disciplines, methods and languages. (often within the same application). From python to Ruby to C to PHP, Java, custom built web servers(software, not hardware), modules for apache and such, applications for servers, rich client stuff, hardware drivers, and on top of it all, making all that stuff work together. Web development can be much more complicated that simply developing apps for a single environment.
Many of the (serious) folks I know in web development are there because they were bored with "real" software development. And it more than a little ignorant and insulting to suggest that web development as a whole isn't software development.
There are levels to web development and there are many degrees of quality and skills. Just as there are many levels to regular software development and degrees of quality and skill. Web development is software development. - Vision2098, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Yeah, if you drive a car you should reinvent the wheel.
Everyone knows that. - evanwalsh, on 05/04/2008, -11/+14Very nice. I had never heard of sifR before!
- danshields, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I don't think that is true, at least not for me. I never wanted to be a programmer. I would much rather be involved with the front-end including IA, Usability, XHTML, CSS, Javascript. I have never had a desire to be a programmer. If your going to tell me that the leaders in this field such as Eric Meyer, Jeffery Zeldman, and the other A listers are just people that wish they could be programmers I'd laugh in your face.
I work directly with software engineers and we depend on each other. There is much more to front-end development then just HTML and CSS but even to create complex professional websites with semantically streamlined accessible code with great CSS to back it up, is an art in its own. Sure anyone can hack up some HTML and CSS the same as anyone can hack up some ***** program if they researched it a bit. That doesn't mean its anything thats going to be a professional product that meet the standards of major company. - MrPig, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Or you could just speak normal English and say What you see is what you get.
- resplence, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Unfortunately not to yours.
- mikev, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I'd like to see you last one day coding a completely valid page with meaningful markup that looks great in all browsers, IE included. There is no doubt that programming applications is more difficult, but to say we aren't coders or we are 'pussies' is plain stupid.
- hilomike, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4http://tutorialblog.org.nyud.net:8080/25-code-snippets-for-web-designers-part1/
- tomi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2[reply] does work for quotes, too.
- WeeklyGeek, on 10/12/2007, -12/+13Good web designers should write their own! These should be used as a learning tool or a jumping off point. No good web designer just takes pre-made code and calls it their own.
- theadvinci, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1Nice.
- teamgwho, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1awesome stuff, perhaps one of the most useful things I've found on digg. useful as in "that can help me". I've read cool stories, seen cool pics and generally feel better informed about things, but this... this I can use.
- Urusai, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4You, sir, are a friggin' genius. By the way, did you know that the putative rationale for the chicken's crossing of the road is in fact merely a statement of the obvious utility of crossing, and not an actual causal justification per se?
- kpeatt, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6It works for links but it's not very usable. sIFR is great in moderation - like most things.
- jbarket, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5sIFR has worked for links since day one.
The real issue is that you'll probably end up with a little flicker if you use it, even if you prefetch with sIFR 3 beta.
All in all, a great tool though. - notastat, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1The smashing magazines ones are truly useful for css web design. Keep up the good web design work.
Sarah
http://www.designvitality.com/ - ginty, on 01/22/2008, -0/+1I used to do this, but then I just started hiring http://www.7sparks.com to do it.
- jordandiggsit, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2During a job interview I was told that HTML is a programming language. When I told her that its not a programming language she got angry and demanded an explanation.
Then she stated that the job pays $26,000 USD, and that her company did not want a college graduate. At that point our phone interview came to an end.
Dano: Don't you think that the best web programmers out there would have a solid understanding of programming and CSS/XHTML/AJAX/ etc? If the coders dont know CSS or xhtml the sites end up looking like google designed it. - Intelligence07, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Great Tips, I'll be using some of these on my sites.
- stockjones, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0jquery, mootools, yui, scriptaculous
- lauramariel, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2haha, like.... whizzywig?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0here is a link to the "TZG Site Sniper" plugin to allow you to bypass restricted webpages at work or school
bypass.thezerogroup.com - mendigg, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Anyone else find it ironic that all these "great" web design articles lately have died with less than 100 diggs and none of them get caught by mirrors? http://www.rolid.org http://www.se-ua.com
- eunaweb, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Colaboradores sobre css
http://css-html-xml-java-dreamweaver.blogspot.com/ - eunaweb, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0hi
Sucss
http://ultimasdainternet.blogspot.com/
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http://internethoje.wordpress.com/ - fuzzboxer, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Wow, this looks oddly familiar to a recent digg CSS listings article with pictures: http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2007/01/19/53-css-techniques-you-couldnt-live-without/
- antechinus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I don't think there are many professionals in this field at all. Professionals wouldn't be cribbing other people's "snippets".
- dmitriyvoz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0The author has mentioned very much a vital topic today. It seems to me that the problematics of this clause enables to reflect and draw conclusions. You can as to look sites in Russian which mention this theme: http://www.rolid.org http://www.se-ua.com
- emligy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0nice stuff..
I'll use widgets also from http://www.widgipedia.com - JoshXop, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I like that!
http://www.joshgrime.co.uk/ - ClintonB, on 10/23/2007, -0/+0i saw similar post today... i wrote there that the best graphics & scripts are on this sites:
http://www.weather.com/search/partner?Keywords=%22 ...
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/newssearch.php?key ...
http://www.weather.com/search/partner?Keywords=%22 ...
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/newssearch.php?key ...
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/newssearch.php?key ... - SniperX, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1..Did he just say DHTML?
- dogshaft, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I prefer to call it wussywigg. It's more descriptive.
- spadgos, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1In case it's still buried and you haven't seen it, the parent post just directly linked to each of the 25 Killer Code Snippets
- Settra, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Like when people say "gewy" instead of GUI
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I neeeded this one!
- lauramariel, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1nah I know, it just makes me laugh when I hear it... which is almost never :)
- str3ama, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2crap, it was still linking to images/css, I removed the css/javascript so it's just text, but if you want to read the article:
http://quickmirror.250x.com/25_code_snippets.html
(has none of the images so it should load quick) -
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